Wasn't there a similar situation in the inaugural One Drop a few yrs ago, where one of the businessmen in the field folded quads with a possible SF on the board? I know it was discussed here a lot, though I always found the story fishy...

"But I had trips"

It was posted in post #26: http://www.wsop.com/news/2012/Jul/39...-THIS-MAN.html

The One Drop hand is more believable. The action is scarier, as JTs makes perfect sense throughout the whole hand. Also, the all-in bet he faced was bigger, and it was actually for his own tournament life (of a $1MM tournament).

Antonio folds Straight Flush

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqTjYnkIHIA

I wouldn't. If I don't put Bowker on a boat, I'm still not quite getting the right odds if my flush or straight makes it, and Bowker checks/folds the river. If my flush/straight makes it, and Bowker BETs pot on the river (as he did), I'd really be put to the test. So I'd just as well avoid it altogether.

Luckily for "kid," he got the one card that also avoids this problem too (if he did in fact have QsTs).

skip to 4:55 for the best part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIkBngGQrUU&t=4m55s

Not saying I would make this fold, but his logic is reasonable. I never understood the logic many of you seem to have, where you just have some good hand and say it can't be folded as though every situation is the same. There are plenty of times when a villain's range is going to just be one hand, and any hand that isn't the nuts can be folded some of the time.

Every hand should be thought through the way he explained it imo, and the way the action went does leave very few hands the guy can have. If it were me though, given the little amount left to call, I'm probably assuming there is a high enough chance he called with 99 twice that calling is right, but maybe that's not true. I don't think JJ or KK are all that likely given the action, and I can't see it ever being just a flush.

Just wasn't his day. . .

I agree with rja.

I also disagree with putting bluff frequency at 0%, but maybe he had a read on this guy that wasn't in the description.

Kid risks tournament life for 80k against someone who just value bet a potsized bet into him OTR -- who had bet all streets including pre-flop and who has better than 3:1 odds on a call (and is left with 25bb if he's wrong?).

I'd say the kid's not bluffing.

Quite simply, except for first few levels you are not deep enough to lay it down imo

ya he's good player but that's obviously terrible fold. Must be playing beyond his roll...

I'd not only call in that spot but give my right nut to be in the spot so I could snap call.


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so everyone can shove vs all his range for 100% fold lol.

how these people win tourneys with that sort of play is a puzzle


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wow folded quads for attention in the ME, what an attention whore! i guess it's easier to get attention this way than attempting to make a deep run and getting attention. So, respects to the attention whore, well played

this is why poker is profitable.

Nice hand Kyle.

ha, he won a bracelet last week or something, i think hes doing ok bud

my dearest condolences to your right nut

Most of the people commenting have never played the main event with two hour levels. The logic for this fold is extremely simple if you are playing with a scared passive person who for ages who can't possibly have KK/99/JJ. I don't even think it is a big deal.

He doesn't need to be right an absurd percentage of the time to make this fold correct either. It's at least a 50% chance the person had a straight flush knowing Kyle, and probably over 90%. They either have it or they don't. It's a simple dichotomy.

Bowker is not a hero fold player, he isn't worried about the 10k at all, he plays to win. As for showing, he knows it's a fish and wants to show cause it's fun.

i just busted out of main and still fail to see reasoning behind folding to a ghost hand. How are you ever going to get any chips... with nut straight flushes only? And worst of all is showing the "epic" nit fold. Bad form imo. If that buyin means the world to you you should never get in the event. You might cash but you don't have a slightest hope of shipping it.


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So 50% chance then because either he had it or he didn't.

It's not a nitty fold at all. A nitty fold is made out of fear. Nits would never fold quads in holdem, because they lack the comprehension to even be afraid in the first place.

Kyle is a millionaire who plays 25-50 cash and up all day, every day.

Hi kyle! No one cares if you are a millionaire-worst fold ever!

Worst fold in the history of folds.

Pretty much. Kyle's good enough to take full advantage of his image there.

Not saying I like the fold btw, but I def understand his reasoning. Pretty sick.

Folding quads=epic fail.

So did he cash or was it all for nothing?