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04-25-2012 , 07:58 AM
So has ftp opened yet no? Lol
04-25-2012 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rincewind
I like your 5th point.
I like the 3rd one the most though. There should always be a bad guy to blame. Thus, the truth will be hidden. Kansas City Shuffle.
04-25-2012 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Vrilya
However, business will only shift to blackmarket. Good job wilders.
But this gives him a good enough reason to demand more police enforcement and play the law and order card...
04-25-2012 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Urinal Mint
That would be a pretty big thing to set up.
Stars are now going to buy the whole thing with $750m. Why not?..
04-25-2012 , 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by elbuennico
I dont think jungleman saw this coming.
U remember his tweet 2 days ago saying a big news was coming ?
Did cates knew it ?
obv yes
04-25-2012 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by elbuennico
I dont think jungleman saw this coming.
U remember his tweet 2 days ago saying a big news was coming ?
Did cates knew it ?
Big news came. Was it what he had in mind, i really don't know. He said too little or too much.
04-25-2012 , 08:05 AM
hey spelling police gtfo. Nice trying to catch up with the thread and you have to sift through a bunch of posts of ******s arguing over grammar and spelling

Spoiler:
gtfo
04-25-2012 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hash1982
Can anyone with access to this article provide cliffs?:

http://www.egrmagazine.com/news/brea...full_tilt_deal
Anyone?
04-25-2012 , 08:08 AM
Having a day to absorb this and think about it I am pretty excited.

I don't think the monopoly aspect is very bad, because Stars has proven themselves to be pretty above board and fair. (Really, even if it were a true monopoly would that be worse for players than all the scandals that have happened? And I think once the legal status around the world clears up there will be plenty of competition.)

I think that this will pave the way for the FTP brand and maybe Stars to partner with US online rooms so if and when state or federal regulation passes. That is good news.

I think the chances of getting our FTP money just shot up. Stars has also shown themselves to be competent, and I don't think they are looking at this seriously if they don't have a good degree of confidence they can get this done. (And they are likely estimating their chances accurately).

I don't expect to hear anything official for at least two weeks. Of course I expected FTP to pay within a week or two after Stars, and I almost LOL'ed when I saw the post saying maybe we'll get paid by the world series, which was an in fashion type of post a year ago, so I am used to disappointment and long waits.
04-25-2012 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by elbuennico
I dont think jungleman saw this coming.
U remember his tweet 2 days ago saying a big news was coming ?
Did cates knew it ?
fwiw Cates went on QuadJacks yday and said his tweet/blog was unrelated and he didn't know. He might be lying, tho, who knows.
04-25-2012 , 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Vrilya
When i asked a couple days ago, it still was valid. Though only in the southern provices this year. Maybe everything change now with new elections, or the conseretivs will get even stronger.

However, business will only shift to blackmarket. Good job wilders.
I speak and read very basic dutch, so a lot of the news sites are difficult for me to get information from, but I found one good english article that has the left wing parties up 9 seats and the right wing parties down 13. I don't know if this is true, or even what the sentiment is towards the current government in the Netherlands (are you Dutch?), but thats what I know.

Was it the PVV which pushed for the wietpasje? That doesn't make much sense, since Wilders is anti-Islam, I wouldn't have thought Muslim people smoke much grass...
04-25-2012 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by kikadell
I speak and read very basic dutch, so a lot of the news sites are difficult for me to get information from, but I found one good english article that has the left wing parties up 9 seats and the right wing parties down 13. I don't know if this is true, or even what the sentiment is towards the current government in the Netherlands (are you Dutch?), but thats what I know.

Was it the PVV which pushed for the wietpasje? That doesn't make much sense, since Wilders is anti-Islam, I wouldn't have thought Muslim people smoke much grass...
Why are you talking about Dutch politics in a poker thread?

Is misé Tompakee® GTFO
04-25-2012 , 08:12 AM
People saying this will not happen over night and things will take a lot more time are obviously most likely right.

But I'm going to bed this morning with this optimistic thought. Diamond Flush's fact report and her now passive optimism is the greatest truths we've had in this ordeal, and I think its safe to say something is going to happen with this god forsaken company soon.

If PS is really buying it, I have to think one biggest reasons will be positive p.r. and saving the reputation of the industry. If this is true, then they have probably factored in the moral of the player base and the roller coaster we've been on so far and would likely not let the GBT bomb drop, news leak, and then wait too long to inform us wtf is up.

I could see some definitive news coming today or tomorrow. ANd with what PS has proven they can do so far, payments wouldn't have to be that far behind.
04-25-2012 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
Why are you talking about Dutch politics in a poker thread?

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Any new job postings to report?
04-25-2012 , 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
Why are you talking about Dutch politics in a poker thread?

Is misé Tompakee® GTFO
Tompakee do you know if hiring by ftp is still in progress? or they cancel all the job offers?
04-25-2012 , 08:17 AM
I do not get it.. Pokerstars will own FTP with all its members.. Isn't it a little too much of the market? I mean then PS could do anything they would desire..
04-25-2012 , 08:21 AM
From the GBT press release:

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For that reason, unless a concrete and legally viable solution is found in the very coming days to save the employees and repay the players of FTP, we will move to our own plan of action.
Has a concrete and legally viable solution a >0 chance?

PS really seems to be our last shot at getting our money back. But do we have any indication whether they are under contractually exclusive negotiation with FTP?
04-25-2012 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sandr1x
I like the 3rd one the most though. There should always be a bad guy to blame. Thus, the truth will be hidden. Kansas City Shuffle.
Maybe you missed the hint of irony in my remark.
04-25-2012 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Everyone seriously needs to chill the **** out and give all of these people a little time to do their due diligence and try to work things out. It took GBT months to try and negotiate this deal and he could never get it done to his satisfaction. Stars isn't going to get it done overnight. Stop worrying about what time zone their office is located in and what not.
Well, if we look back how fast they solve their issues after BF, we really can expect a much faster process. IMO they have the money and they are willing to get the deal done asap.

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Originally Posted by kikadell
I speak and read very basic dutch, so a lot of the news sites are difficult for me to get information from, but I found one good english article that has the left wing parties up 9 seats and the right wing parties down 13. I don't know if this is true, or even what the sentiment is towards the current government in the Netherlands (are you Dutch?), but thats what I know.

Was it the PVV which pushed for the wietpasje? That doesn't make much sense, since Wilders is anti-Islam, I wouldn't have thought Muslim people smoke much grass...
???????????
What is the sence of this? I guess not the Muslim smoke much weed!
04-25-2012 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDarkElf
Any new job postings to report?
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Originally Posted by ra1sy
Tompakee do you know if hiring by ftp is still in progress? or they cancel all the job offers?
I checked the jobs.ie site and the jobs that were originally posted are still there (last updated 23rd) But nothing new as yet on there or anywhere else.

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04-25-2012 , 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SpecialOne
i dont care about the monopoly, i dont care if pokerstars get f*cking 100% of players, right now all i want to know is when are we going to hear if the deal with pokerstars/DOJ/ftp is finalized. It will just be too sick to wait for months again, i believe the ppl are out of energy for this
this
04-25-2012 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tompakee
Why are you talking about Dutch politics in a poker thread?

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Heh, you're right, my bad
04-25-2012 , 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by LTU Westham
I do not get it.. Pokerstars will own FTP with all its members.. Isn't it a little too much of the market? I mean then PS could do anything they would desire..
many former FTP players allready play on stars. the other side of the medal for stars is, that they eliminate their biggest competitor and have a greater monopoly for themselves.

but other pokerrooms will also grow and expand. maybe some other rooms will come and offer a better rake/rb structure as they have right now. ipoker offers very good rb deals, however the site is filled with better players (what i heard). 888 on the other hand offers low rb but has superfishy games running.


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04-25-2012 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by LTU Westham
I do not get it.. Pokerstars will own FTP with all its members.. Isn't it a little too much of the market? I mean then PS could do anything they would desire..
If FTP doesn't take off, then the situation you describe above will happen anyway. As it stands, PS are the biggest room and pretty much have a "monopoly" today. Whether they take over FTP or it disappears, its close to the same situation.

I play on Partypoker. That's why I put monopoly in inverted commas. If PS start charging wild rake, then you'll be playing on Partypoker too. Not really a monopoly.
04-25-2012 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by kikadell
Heh, you're right, my bad
Is cool lol i sometimes forget which thread i am in and start a whole new conversation thats WAYYYYYY off topic

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