i'm for it, just cause he's such a pathetic NIT

if guy ran FTP, that'd be different

Talk about a can of worms

Cant be done, shouldnt be done and wont be done

Not the Arias job to investigate players history etc. Should they allow felons to play? What about someone who robbed a bank 20 years ago? Much more unethical than what Howard did

You want to hurt Lederer, play with him, grill him over the issue and send him broke.

It's a thin line... you know if this was Texas in 1972 Howard wouldn't even show his face knowing his life would surely be at risk. But no, he is completely comfortable walking into bellagio to play in bobbys room. By golly if you had taken money from Amarillo slim and didn't pay up within a year somebody scary came a knockin'. It's 2012 and law suits and personal liberties are expanded we need to be careful, it's not like this guy with the petition could ever afford to sit with howard in a game or anyone else that probably signed the petition so if the people in bobbys room aren't behind this i/e durr, ivey , doyle, etc then this won't go anywhere and i think thoose guys are on def on howard side thinkin he is a victim and ray is the mastermind....

He shouldn't be able to play even if US does get the money back. He still stole all the players money. If it wasn't for Stars.. everyone would be up ****s creek. So because someone steps up to save the day doesn't just cancel out all the crimes he's committed.

You kinda miss the point. If the players are true to their word, then they will stop playing at the Aria unless Howard Lederer is banned. That is how the world should work.

If the Aria doesn't want to ban him, then fine, the players will go somewhere else. This is not some case where players don't want to play with someone because of their race or religion. In the real world, guys like Lederer and Chris Ferguson can go to prison for the rest of their lives. It can still happen. This is serious criminal behavior here, and it effected a lot of people in the poker community. It is almost irrelevant if players ever get paid back. They were put at risk by Lederer, Ferguson, even bucktooth clowns like Phil Gordon got THEIRS. Of course he disappeared now that he is at risk of PRISON FOR DECADES.

For Lederer to give that nonsense interview and then just days later start showing up to play poker is just a slap in the face to all that have money on Full Tilt. Neither he, nor a single other insider of Full Tilt has gone into their pocket for 10 cents since Black Friday. They got theirs, and the players are holding the bag. And to act like nothing has happened, and then plop down and start playing poker, now that is as low as it gets.

Because of his selfish decisions, he is able to play poker while others are not. He should be banned from every poker room at least until US players are payed back. At the very least.

whatever happened to all the ub pros and owners, we sure forgot about them quickly

Good luck Aria players.

You know why these guys play at the aria........? Cause that's where the game is and they enjoy it there. Are they really gonna move to the V or W? Why don't they play there now? Are we going to add Brad Booth to this petition or just continue playing with him in our 5/10 game even though he owes everyone money?

This is ridiculous

never happen, sign a petition but dont say a word to him when hes there ?

Howards done as well as many others in the poker world. DOJ has got the money and needs to cough it up!!!!!!

I dont, its 2012. When guys are mad at other guys they talk and gossip about them behind their backs like cowards...than delete them from their Facebook Page.

Lol.

Gotta say tho...Howards got balls. In a way tho....this guys existance is SOOO sad. I mean this guy has more money than he could spend in 200 lifetimes and the ENTIRE poker universe hates his guts with a passion and he still goes to Vegas to play cards. He literally has nothing else in his life. What a sad, lonely hermit. Complete life fail....complete. Not even upset about my money. Howard...go get a hooker.

If you got enough players to boycott the Aria poker room....something could get done.

The Aria isn't obliged to do anything about HL...it's not their issue, but if they lost enough rake over it...they might be inclined to pull the safety card and not allow him to play.

The death threat calls and the need for beefed up security could be reason enough for them to trespass him.

At the very least, it's worth a shot.

bull ****, for what?!!

I don't think it's really a concern of "how far could this go if he's banned?"

Almost nobody gets banned and the reasons for banning Lederer are pretty strong and directly impact tens of thousands, if not 100s of thousands of players negatively.

A lot of the "I don't know" stuff after was just a giant slap in the face.

At the very least, until (if) USA players get paid, a temporary ban would at least feel a little bit more fair to the victims of his actions (or inaction if you take his words as the truth).

Why don't the players in his game ban together and break THE SECOND he sits down. Reconvene at another table in another room. What kind of message would that send to both Lederer and room. Banned by the players.

Of course, that would never happen b/c of the sheer effort and conviction that would be required. And b/c I'm sure some would like to take his money in the game.

UPDATE: Upon his arrival, the Aria prevented DiVella from circulating the petition and gathering signatures while on the property.

Last time I checked Russ Hamilton was still playing live so...

good!

Grunch. You think robbing a bank (average of which nets 32k) is more unethical than stealing 300 million dollars?

innocent till proven guilty?

Yeah if anytime he walked into a room everyone left, then he wouldnt even need to be banned. The problem is the people who play in his games care way more about money than they do the poker community, so its never going to happen.

Time and time again, poker players have shown they only care about themselves, as long as they personally arent losing anything, they dont give a **** about anyone else.

Howard could open another poker site, call it "haha, Im going to rip you all off again" make the logo him skeeting all over the american flag, and if there were fish at the tables, there would be people from these forums playing there.

Poker players would play at a table full of child molesting rapists if they thought they had an edge.

Grunch? While quoting post #28 in the thread?

Im going to guess thats 3 pages of posts for him

Reminds me of the Epic Poker ethics committee fiasco.

+1, as soon as the good players boycott Aria, other ones will come in to play stating they didn't know Howard was playing there. Very hard to get poker players to stay away from a place where there is money to be made