I made it clear to you the first time this was brought up i didnt owe this money and was never paying.

Lets see player c owes me over 100k beats me for 30k i tell him knock off bill, Next day you are playing him heads up, Bust him, you end up buying some imaginary debt. Beat him for it. The next day when you asked me about it i told you there is no way i owed or was paying. At that same time you were holding alot of my money, I made it clear i wasnt paying then and you payed me every thing you were holding of mine. Let it go bro.

If 20 people come to me and say hey shaun owes me 30k and i give them 15 for it. The next day i ask you for the 30k doe that mean you owe me?

Your greed got you hustled, you should of called and asked me if i owed or had any intentions of paying. At one point i did feel sorry for your stupidity and offered to settle with you.

We can pick 3 arbitrators if one out of three say your right ill pay you what ever it is plus 20k if all 3 say im right just give me 20k.


We can pick 5 people, if one says i owe its a push 2 you win, only way i win is if all 5 people say im right.


You are wrong, thats all there is to it. Let it go.

Or let me know when we can post up our money and let others decide, My guess is never because everyone tells you how wrong you are and the only recourse you have is trying to shame me into paying.

We could also do a Fight like Elky and Raszi or Oliver and JC for it? Ill still put up 58 to your 20

We could probally raise 60 for it, PPV and SPonsorships. Im sure the winner could get paid by Jenny Craig

There is nothing wrong with buying debts in the poker world or in real life. As long as there is a debt to be bought. Maybe should ask the party whos debt you are buying intends to pay first?

Buying and transfering debt helps keep the poker world going.

What shaun is trying to do is basicly poker extortion.

omg yes! please! make it happen lol i would pay 1k to see this lol

I have no worries, im just trying to make 20k.


And a simple " Im Sorry " from Shaun will do

PhD candidates don't suddenly forgo basic grammar and punctuation when they're writing something other than their dissertation.

Sounds like shaun got hustled by JRB

if this is accurate, this is all I need to hear. Ship the pot to Viffer.

You sure about that? I'm a psychologist and use abbreviations in informal settings, such as this forum, all the time.

Viffer sounds so incredibly shady throughout this thread. I don't believe your story at all. Why? Because you repeatedly say "ask the person if they intend to pay" before buying debt. Intend to pay? Why would someone ask that if it's a not a debt as you claim? If there is no debt to pay, why insist that he should have asked you what you're intentions were? Shouldn't you encourage him to ask if a debt is even owed since you're claiming there is not one? Instead, you say he should have asked about your "intentions" which sounds like you owe a debt that you had no intention of paying.

The way you have handled this with partial information and bizarre backwards logic makes me think there is a lot more to this than you are letting on. That makes you untrustworthy.

Your name is perfect. You are the doctor of meh.

Sure they do. Why would they send perfect grammar/punctuation text messages to friends? Kind of inefficient in text (phone or forum) format to be perfect all the time.

And before you ask, yes I know several PhD holders and candidates. GF is a PhD candidate in cell biology so naturally most of her friends are PhD also. They are all super smart, but like poker players, very lazy at everything that isn't related to their profession.

YOu an idiot.

You are a degen.

Normal people who get accused of owing a debt that doesn't exist would give details explaining why there was no debt and would constantly make the point that no debt ever existed. Liars who distort the truth would throw out meaningless arguments in an attempt to deflect attention from their own responsibility to someone else. Meaningless arguments such as intentions.

Again, if you claim a debt was never owed, why harp on the idea of what you're intentions are? Have a rational answer or just more baseless insults?

Durp

I was hoping Viffer would tell him to die in a grease fire because that's how the majority of us feel.

This is flawed thinking and not relative to this situation. The problem with this logic is that this type of debt is secured via a contract or a note. The person owing the debt has signed some sort of agreement or form that states what happens if he defaults on said debt. That includes the ability for the original creditor to sell the debt and for the debtor to be bound to paying the debt no matter who it is owed to.

We are talking about debts involving two degenerate gamblers that have no contract or written evidence what-so-ever that the debtor agreed to pay the creditor under any guidelines, including the debt being transferred to a third party degenerate gambler, if it was not paid back.

Good luck with getting any of this to stick in anything except the court of public opinion!

As many have stated, this is just another lesson to focus on yourself and your game, rather than getting involved in other people's financial business. I smell another MMA fight in the works.........

^^^ The funny part is that I grunched the second page. Then I go on the read that talks of a MMA fight did pop up a few posts later, lol.

Having barely read the thread I've arbitrarily decided to support Viffer but think it's best decided by MMA.
Gas will play a big part in this.
Viffer by 2nd rd TKO as long as he avoids Deeb's patented truffle shuffle submission move.

Shaun I think viffer wants you to die in grease fire

Maybe a competitive eating contest between them would be more appropriate. Maybe get a Nathan's Hot Dog sponsorship out of it.

ohh lord, viffer is now broke and wants attention.... shieeeeet

If JRB still owes you money (100k?), then why don't you just swap that out with what you owe Shaun and give him a few thousand extra? Has JRB paid you the money he owes?

why don't you sit this one out

shaun is just a fat kid who turned into a nit. his claim to fame is grinding $75 tourneys on stars lol. viffer has alot more credibility than deeb in high stakes transactions. viff wins this round imo.