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02-08-2016 , 01:22 PM
I don't study but keep losing lol
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02-08-2016 , 01:38 PM
Haha, OP hit the nail on the head. I was thinking the exact same thing this weekend. The thing a lot of you 'winners' forget is that even after subtracting his deposits from his pay checks, he probably makes twice what the average 'pro' makes.

Moral of the story is a lot of losers at this game are winners in life and lots of winners in this game are losers in life.
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02-08-2016 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by iixiixii
Haha, OP hit the nail on the head. I was thinking the exact same thing this weekend. The thing a lot of you 'winners' forget is that even after subtracting his deposits from his pay checks, he probably makes twice what the average 'pro' makes.

Moral of the story is a lot of losers at this game are winners in life and lots of winners in this game are losers in life.
Yep. Theres so many people who put in alot of work at poker to make 20-50k a year when they couldve made a ton more in the real world + BENEFITS if they put in the same amount of work. That doesnt matter though because they get to work at home and be their own boss lol. When online poker dries up and they are 35 with a decade+ gap in their resume and no job prospects then reality will hit them...

And im a winner in the games i play online, im not a mad loser, just a winning realist!!!!
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02-08-2016 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Byrung
play online slots. Big score potential. I think the dark knight rises jackpot is around 5 mill
Maybe the worst advice i have ever seen on 2p2 which is quite the achievement lol
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02-08-2016 , 02:00 PM
OP i feel you. I think you expressed general feeling of a lot of members of poker community. Dont worry about idiots itt berating you, they are most likely fish themselves. Winning player would not waste their time with such idiotic and useless posts.

I have a similar story to yours. I deposit every now and then, but I was lucky enough to hit some mtt scores so Im pretty much breakeven. I play like 3-4 times a week...after work so im usualy quite tired, drinking beer and getting stoned...so my play is not optimal, but its decent. Im just looking for a bit of fun and adrenaline. I dont really want to invest too much time into studying, its not my job, its a hobby. I have read some books and had a pro friend helping with advice.

My problem is the games are not as fun as they used to be (subjectivly)so I tend to play less and less. Another fact that pulls me away from the tables are the crazy suckouts that ruin my deep runs almost every time. The problem is low volume makes it hard to beat the variance and all the stupid crazy russians and god knows how many bots make rec players life really hard. I usualy play 2 mtts per evening and if you keep getting sucked out of them all the time, it gets very old very fast. Last time I got deep a guy with K2 off called mypreflop 4bet all in with AA for 60BB and got a flush with the duce....yes he was russian....i tried to talk to the guy asking what he was thinking...no respons. No sane person could call that. was he a bot? I dunno, but i know **** like this makes me wanna quit. I was making a statistics last month and I lost 79% of all hands where I was 60%+ favourite. go figure. I keep playing bc I have some winnings on my account, but i know for sure I wont deposit if i lose it all. not on pokerstats anyway. I play live regulary and it seems much better. I play less hands and its less comfortable, but imho I think hands tend to hold much more often, at least in my case and there are no russian idiots and bots

Last edited by Krataman; 02-08-2016 at 02:19 PM.
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02-08-2016 , 02:38 PM
I dutifully suggest moving up in stakes, that way your raises get respect.
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02-08-2016 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
Yep. Theres so many people who put in alot of work at poker to make 20-50k a year when they couldve made a ton more in the real world + BENEFITS if they put in the same amount of work. That doesnt matter though because they get to work at home and be their own boss lol. When online poker dries up and they are 35 with a decade+ gap in their resume and no job prospects then reality will hit them...

And im a winner in the games i play online, im not a mad loser, just a winning realist!!!!
"a REAL mother****in winning REALIST"
Ok, I think I got it.
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02-08-2016 , 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cardbrute
Well done ****ting on OP. I mean really, good on you, further insult and isolate players that play for fun.

Not everyone plays poker for the same reasons you do. These are the type of voices we need to be hearing and figuring out how to connect with and make poker fun and exciting again.

This entitlement attitude that is so prevalent among the community is a disgrace. Should be doing everything possible to welcome all types of players to the game.
So we should make the exchange rate more favorable, or somehow keep his opponents from hitting their outs? Maybe force players to pass a skills test before they're allowed to play against the OP in micro-turbos? Because the crux of the issue here is that the OP is losing (to "idiots"), not PS's investment partners or whatever.

If somebody loses consistently year after year, eventually no amount of good-time happy-chat will keep it being fun or even tolerable. Live, at least you can buy him a drink.
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02-08-2016 , 03:14 PM
The climate really is awful for online poker tho. Has it ever been worse?
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02-08-2016 , 03:48 PM
OP, if you want to win but not put in much work at it then play at a level you can beat. At one time for me that was the $0.10 360 man, maybe the same for you or even play money.

On the other hand, if you want to have a drink and a bit of a gamble with poker at home without going to a live venue then just make a budget for it. The luck always evens out in the end - but if the level is high enough for it to feel like real gambling for an Aussie builder then it will also be high enough for someone to play it seriously and in the long run you will lose to that person. But as I said, make sure you budget for it.

The only other thing I would say is it's usually best to have lots of different activities and do them a bit rather than go full on with one activity. Just play once a month.

Oh and don't play on stars. Your money will go further (i.e. you can play higher with the same dollar loss rate or play the same level with a lower dollar loss rate) somewhere else.

And there's nothing to flame. Plenty of us never do forms of gambling that are -EV for us personally.
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02-08-2016 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RobDaRobber

...I don't have the time to sit there for 6 hours playing an MTT get deep and sit up half the night to come 26/1400 for $16.50..
This is really a problem with Stars payout structure. First they pay to many places and then the payouts are really top heavy. They should copy Full Tilts payout structure instead. But skip only raising the blinds every two hours...

If you come back give the 180 man sng's a go, if you haven't already. You don't have to run like Jesus to win them but still get a nice sum of cash if you do win.
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02-08-2016 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by truefish
**** that. Quit bitching and reload.
LOL +1
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02-08-2016 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by <"))))><
Go the bulldogs
You should be ashamed of yourself
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02-08-2016 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by a_r_K
Maybe the worst advice i have ever seen on 2p2 which is quite the achievement lol
dude are you like new to the world?

Everyone knows online slots is where its at.

Everyone but you. By the time you get around to trying it out, the slot boom will be over.
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02-08-2016 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RobDaRobber
I've been playing online for around 6 or 7 years ... I reckon I've averaged around $150 a week of deposits ...

I love poker, I play probably 2/3 hours a night 6 days a week

Anyway, the reason for this tldr post is ... I'm over it, the micro bad beats, Stars changing up their VIP system, I can't even satellite during the week anymore to keep me going till I redeposit, the exchange rate (put in $50 and get $32),

The games aren't fun anymore ...

Oh and Stars, lol @ your promotions, I dutifully deposit, get all my game tickets, and all the games are at 6/7/8am Aussie time when I'm at work, lol. Way to support, all the all-in shootouts, I reckon I've entered in about 200 of them, and never one 1 cent. just lol

Is it Summertime in Australia now? Sometimes it can maybe be easier to find other things to do when it's warm and sunny until really late - and then when Winter hits ... about all that's left is poker lol ...


Money sure doesn't go as far as it used to with some things now that the US$ is so high - just paid C$1.75 for a tomato the other day! ( <- ) Guess if games are one of those things that's been affected by the exchange rates, maybe setting up like a budget or something might be a way for you to make sure your deposits last as long as they did before? Guess the planning and stuff might take a bit of getting used to, but with $150/week to splash around, hopefully there'll still be lots of fun stuff for you to play?


Just thought maybe that might be an option, gl!

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02-09-2016 , 01:07 AM
You could always get "passwordgothacked" to coach you. He comments on every thread but has yet to post a winning hand of poker.

He is 34 years old and has played poker for 16 or 17 years. He can't remember which.

He berates posters, but has nothing of any import to say.

Yeah, he's the guy you need to become a winner.
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02-09-2016 , 05:17 AM
Well said.
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02-09-2016 , 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by cardbrute
Well done ****ting on OP. I mean really, good on you, further insult and isolate players that play for fun.

Not everyone plays poker for the same reasons you do. These are the type of voices we need to be hearing and figuring out how to connect with and make poker fun and exciting again.

This entitlement attitude that is so prevalent among the community is a disgrace. Should be doing everything possible to welcome all types of players to the game.
Your moaning at him for insulting and isolate fish?

Seems like he saying he is a fish, fish do moan about getting beat to 3 outters

What you want you should welcome him not say he thinks he is entitled

Thats were the money comes from players who think there entitled for there ak to hold against aq.
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02-09-2016 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dogthefrog
Thats were the money comes from players who think there entitled for there ak to hold against aq.
Lol at you thinking any differently.
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02-09-2016 , 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pinkmann
o/u on how long until OP redeposits?

oh****son. laughed my ass off on that one
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02-09-2016 , 06:27 PM
Move to the US, then you don't have to worry about online poker (for the most part). Plenty of great live poker though. Just move 10 minutes from a descent casino and play 2-3 hours a night of live 1/2 or 2/5. Much more fun AND you can actually interact and have real conversations with real people face to face. Free beer and a vape on the smoking deck and your all set! GL
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02-09-2016 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
I dont give a **** if OP decides to quit, see this is the problem with poker, you got people who put up a fake image to keep the fish happy. **** the fish, they suck and they need to be reminded of it. OP you dont just quit poker, its like crack, you will either learn to win or deposit until you die. Thats just the way it goes.

There should be no political correctness in poker. But then again thats just me, im not a fake, im a real mother****er
Bro, it's time to take a walk outside and get some fresh air. All the youporn and jokerstars you been grinding non-stop is starting to fry your brain.
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02-09-2016 , 07:56 PM
Bring Back the Biff
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02-10-2016 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by H0RUS
I dont give a **** if OP decides to quit, see this is the problem with poker, you got people who put up a fake image to keep the fish happy. **** the fish, they suck and they need to be reminded of it. OP you dont just quit poker, its like crack, you will either learn to win or deposit until you die. Thats just the way it goes.
Wrong. People do quit poker. It's not crack. Why else you think poker economy is _shrinking_? There's less players playing.

And if he did the self-ban then that's it. At least for stars he's out for good and the way online poker is pretty much same as poker is good as well.

So no insulting players makes no sense. Especially if they are worse than you. Better to be silent. You are only creating negativity which will have no positive result but could lead to negative.

EV is very much -. Are you poker player or gambler?
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02-10-2016 , 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by TrustySam
Money sure doesn't go as far as it used to with some things now that the US$ is so high - just paid C$1.75 for a tomato the other day! ( <- )
Tomatoes are back down to C$1, whew! But just paid C$1.50 for an ear of corn - guess that's my little treat for when the weather gets not so nice out

Hey op, just thought of something I've been doing when there's enough time left to play a full regular speed tourney - have been late registering a lot of them, if we still get maybe like a 20bb-30bb stack? Then it doesn't take so long to reach ITM ... if I don't wind up busting out first lol They're not as slow once the antes have kicked in ...

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