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Another Dallas Poker Robbery, One Killed Another Dallas Poker Robbery, One Killed

09-10-2008 , 09:12 AM
Anyone from Dallas? Tell us about this.

http://pokerati.com/2008/09/09/murde...lled/#comments

Any poker player should MEMORIZE the statement,

"Take all the money. Don't hurt anybody and we won't call the law."

Johnny Hughes

Here is an something I wrote about how to act when being robbed. You better hope that the other players know how to act when being robbed, or some one could get killed.

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/p...y-hughes06.htm

Last edited by Johnny Hughes; 09-10-2008 at 09:18 AM.
09-10-2008 , 03:35 PM
Yes I actually knew the guy that died.Played with all of the them.Whoever robbed them had some balls because this is a rough bunch to say the least.
09-10-2008 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by alcapone8
Yes I actually knew the guy that died.Played with all of the them.Whoever robbed them had some balls because this is a rough bunch to say the least.
The article makes this game sound like the players were all drug dealers, pimps, and muscle for the vietnamese mob.

If so, I'm surprised nobody was packing.
09-10-2008 , 04:04 PM
Thanks for this. Quite an interesting read, as well as a good wake up call to all of us young kids who have had it all nice and comfy while playing on the internet.
09-10-2008 , 04:20 PM
From the sound of it, mentionning rich thugs wanting to gamble a lot... I was ready to hear about a 50-100 with no cap or something.

NL200?

Geez...
09-10-2008 , 04:31 PM
Does the heart icon picked for the OP seem out of place to anyone else?
09-10-2008 , 04:35 PM
^^^^ I was just about to post almost exactly this then notice that you'd beat me to it
09-10-2008 , 04:47 PM
This was def not a 1-2 game.And half the players normally carry more cash on them each than whats on table.
09-10-2008 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gazillion
^^^^ I was just about to post almost exactly this then notice that you'd beat me to it
+1
09-10-2008 , 05:04 PM
Yesterday, I was speaking to a neighbor who is a retired cop. He had an Ar-15 for sale and wanted to know if I wanted it as I am a gun nut like him, I declined however it got us on a different subject - concealed weapon permits. His client he is training currently is getting one and I asked what was the criteria, and he said be part of a gun club, carry large sums of cash/valuables, and have a letter of recommendation from someone like him. It takes between 1-4 months to get approved according to him, and then you can carry a firearm...not into a casino of course. But I always take my .357 in a backpack that I leave in the truck to have an out if I am ever followed home. I remember one guy at the Bike who rode his bicycle to the casino and won 50k in Pai Gow of all stupid ways to win money and tried to ride home...throat slashed before he was out of the parking lot..people tried to make him leave it at the casge...oh well. We had Viet gangs locally crashing underground poker MTT's, the one I played in had two off duty guys who were always packing, nothing ever happened but it was nice they were there.

Anyway, my point is maybe a concealed carry permit wouldn't be a bad thing for high stakes poker players. I take home a few hundred to a few thousand depending, and I am nervous...I am sure that those playing high stakes have scary amounts on them and this would be a good thing to have.
09-10-2008 , 05:10 PM
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The biggest sums wagered, however, were on XBox action
A+ degeneracy imo
09-10-2008 , 05:50 PM
Congratulations Hughes, you've got some more fodder for your belief that Texas is still the wild west.
09-10-2008 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by reefdawg
Congratulations Hughes, you've got some more fodder for your belief that Texas is still the wild west.
lol this.
09-10-2008 , 08:25 PM
09-10-2008 , 08:49 PM
Yeah, Texas is still the Wild West, but so are most large American cities, even worse than Texas now.
09-10-2008 , 11:25 PM
Thanks for the post OP.

"I've been robbed with pistols, shotguns, and by a lawyer with a ball point pen"

As a lawyer, this made me lol hard. Specifics on the case?
09-11-2008 , 03:19 AM
I sat next to Charles Lineberry at the Scotty Nguyen Challenge last year so I was shocked to read the story below. I have stopped playing local cash games.

San Antonio Poker Player Shot

From The San Antonio Express-News (2/27/2008)

In the sudden welter of gunshots and screams that transformed a high-stakes poker game into a crime scene this week, Angel Cevallos couldn't be sure precisely what was going on.

The 36-year-old land developer dove beneath a chip-stacked poker table as soon as the firing started and then obeyed every command of the three masked men who'd burst inside the Northwest Side house from a back door: Empty your pockets, put your hands in the air and face the wall.

But one day after the Tuesday incident, as local poker star Charles Lineberry lay recovering in a hospital from a gunshot wound to the chest, Cevallos was sure of one thing.

"It was definitely somebody who knew about the location," he said. "It was an inside job."

Cevallos, Lineberry and about eight others had been playing Texas Hold 'Em in the living room of a house in the 9000 block of Laguna Rio for nearly six hours when the robbers made their abrupt entrance around 1:40 a.m.

The game had been a typical one for the devotees of San Antonio's poker community: The buy-in was $300 per player, and the collected cash had been put into a blue bag and placed in a nearby cabinet.

The door to the back porch had been left unlocked, probably because some of the players liked to take cigarette breaks, Cevallos said. He was $900 down when two gunshots rang out and three men in black masks and blue mechanics uniforms burst into the living room from the back door.

One had a shotgun.

"Give me the money," he said, according to a police report.

Everyone was told to empty his or her pockets and face the wall. One of the men walked up to the cabinet that held the players' money and pulled out the blue bag, the report said.

"Nobody could explain how the (intruders) knew exactly where the money was kept," the report stated.

In addition to $3,000 from the cabinet, the robbers made off with hundreds of dollars from the pockets of the players.

A police spokeswoman did not know Wednesday if an arrest had been made in the robbery.

Cevallos said paramedics told him that a bullet had punctured one of Lineberry's lungs. The wounded player, who's won more than $170,000 in poker tournaments in the past 21/2 years, according to the player profile Web site pokerpages.com, was in stable condition at University Hospital on Wednesday.

A player since 2001, Cevallos said Tuesday's incident was unlikely to dissuade him from his favorite pastime. But he noted that many in the local poker community have taken a break as Lineberry recovers from his injury.

"A lot of people I know canceled their games."


More support for legalizing poker rooms in Texas.
09-11-2008 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
Yeah, Texas is still the Wild West, but so are most large American cities, even worse than Texas now.
Not here in Houston.
09-11-2008 , 04:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Hughes
Here is an something I wrote about how to act when being robbed. You better hope that the other players know how to act when being robbed, or some one could get killed.

http://www.pokerpages.com/articles/p...y-hughes06.htm
very cool article, nice to know there is some old school gamblers posting on 2p2, A++.
09-11-2008 , 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
From the sound of it, mentionning rich thugs wanting to gamble a lot... I was ready to hear about a 50-100 with no cap or something.

NL200?

Geez...
It was 1-2 with deeeep stacks, the article said thousands of dollars in their stacks.
09-11-2008 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Borgia
Thanks for the post OP.

"I've been robbed with pistols, shotguns, and by a lawyer with a ball point pen"

As a lawyer, this made me lol hard. Specifics on the case?
,d


Divorce, of course. I wrote a song, "Thank you for letting me keep my clothes." My brother is a singer. We recorded the song with Lloyd Maines, father of Natalie Maines of the Dixie Chicks, producing and playing all the instruments.

Last edited by Johnny Hughes; 09-11-2008 at 02:55 PM. Reason: I wrote a nifty little ditty about barking iron.
09-11-2008 , 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnybeef
Thanks for this. Quite an interesting read, as well as a good wake up call to all of us young kids who have had it all nice and comfy while playing on the internet.
how is it a wake up call? its not.
09-11-2008 , 08:53 PM
I guess I just wouldnt consider playing in an underground room. They take rake anyway mostly, right? I'll play online, a small game with friends, or drive 2 hours to foxwoods. To hell with shady games, even if they are profitable.
09-11-2008 , 09:17 PM
the one positive thing about the underground games in Scranton...
way more +EV to boost the local convenience store or gas station instead
09-11-2008 , 09:34 PM
related - NYC roberry last year. Charges filed this week

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/09/ny...l?ref=nyregion
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