Question:

If Bryn Kenney is such a scumbag loser, why did the all honorable ActionJeff go to him for staking?

sfthis. Just smfh @ a bunch of people ITT.

You're a fool lol, just stop. Jeff stands up for himself regarding their situation and flat out confronts a guy that everyone knows is a complete pos lowlife and he's the one that deserves getting his ass kicked by 5 ppl spitting on his face? Pretty lol @ how it angers you so much that he spit on a guys face who everyone knows had it coming. So if Jeff just snuffed him would you still be lashing out at him like an idiot? He spit on this loser with the intention of fighting him after, who cares man..why in the world does that warrant him getting beat up and spit on by a group of people.

Bryn threatened to get his friends to KILL HIM you idiot, what that's not as low as one puuuusy mother f'er can get? Open up your eyes and get a ****ing clue you can't possibly be this naive.

It's the equivalent of biting your thumb at someone in the romeo and juliet days

If you're going to spit at everyone at a poker table who has done something as shady as multiaccounting, you're not going to survive very long. MA'ing wouldnt even show up on the radar, if you were to compare it to all of the other criminals you've likely played with over your lifetime.


It sounds like you spat at bryn because you envisioned that the online community would rally behind you and because you thought his whole gangster act was... well, an act.

You seem to have been mostly wrong about the first. I hope for your sake that you were right about the latter. Because there are a lot of people, gangster and otherwise, who spitting at would be a huge mistake.




The softer charge would be that he 'ghosted' his brother.

The more serious accusations make it sound as though his brother had no part of it, and that bryn uses multiple accounts to play.

Obviously the latter is more severe, but as someone who recently dabbled in MTT's after having made most of my money playing cash, the scandal surrounding it seems to get blown way out of proportion by some.

I can understand why it's necessary to disuade people from using multiple accounts in tournaments (dilluting the quality of the field, etc), but the degree to which it's villified isn't intuitive at all... it's a "movement" that's sort of taken a life of it's own. I get the vibe that some people on 2+2 hold multiaccounters in lower regard than they do child molesters sometimes.

yeah after i became a more involved member of the mtt community i kinda found it funny how they make such a big deal out of it when teamviewer is installed on half of mttc's pcs and it aint installed for coaching.

yeah i agree, and if thats such cheating then many other things could be considered cheating, (yes, including using PTR or HEM)

the poker community is laughable with their 'morals'

- Chad exposes Bryn for getting 2nd in the WCOOP ME on his brother's account udon wannit, a guy who played $10 - $20 tourny's previously

- Bryn slaps Chad in the face in Vegas

- Bryn gets at Chad on aim and threatens to kill him (or have ppl kill him)

ActionJeff-- You seem to want to fight BK pretty bad. If you want to fight him so badly then how come you didn't just attack him when he was staring you down after you busted at PCA? If you were able to get close enough to spit in his face surely you were within range to swing a punch too, no? You should have just thrown down right there. It sounds like this happened at your conclusion of the last tourney at PCA? So you didn't have to worry about getting thrown out (you were on your way out anyway) and if BK fights back then he loses his chiplead and gets thrown out as well most likely. Sounds like a win-win to me as you could be the first person to effectively bust someone from a tournament without playing a hand against them!

There's a pretty clear divide between multiaccounting and using PTR/HEM in the sense that one violates the TOS.

A better analogy would be datamining - which almost all of us tacitly use by visiting tableratings, and many others explicitly use.

is this just bull**** or an accusation that a bunch of the dudes in mttc are scumbags? because none of the people i know do what you're implying (which i'm assuming is ghosting their horses? i'm not really sure). regardless i'm pretty sure "two wrongs make a right" is a fallacy, despite the fact that it might upset your anti-self-righteous sensibilities. and i cant really imagine what rekrul is saying when he suggests that multiaccounting being against the rules means that hem should be against the rules.

and what are your feelings on datamining and using/visiting sites that do it?

Let's be real, people get killed over 10% that amount of money all the time. Yet I get all this attitude for loathing someone who mislead me, took my action, and then refused to pay me tens of thousands owed.

I took the deal because I was on a downswing post-taxes and he offered to stake me in $40ks, high roller events, whatever I wanted, playing low volume while in school, at 60% with incentives. Yeah, too good to be true.


Last time, last thing:

This had NOTHING to do with multi-accounting, as I said in my original response that was quoted here.

I hate Bryn because he mislead me on a major staking deal I put a huge amount of faith (and somehow, money) into.
He bailed mid series after he freerolled $23,500 from me in buy ins without paying because he was going broke at the time.

Despite all, I was in makeup and was willing to accept I made a bad decision and put it behind me and take a small settlement- just the $2500 for my troubles- the buy in for a WSOP event he freerolled that I got 40th in and could have just as easily won. and we could walk by each other in peace for the next several decades we'll be playing this game. But no. Because "lol **** you I'm not paying u anything sorry".

And that doesn't mean ****, cuz any way you look at it, the guy is a known long time cheater, and the guy is a straight thief

Where do you people come up with this ****?

You think I am enjoying defending myself and making my personal business public while dozens of NVG tards talk about crucifying me? **** NO!

Seriously done, if you guys can't figure this out on your own at this point and just want to just make up bizarre ulterior motives, go ahead. There's a reason I post primarily in H&F, and never take any interviews live, and it's because I dread getting involved in the poker community nowadays.

Jeff

Alright, then I have no idea what this is about.

I'd still say it would be worth explaining the situation 'on the record'.

Whether you want to or not, it's been made public - and it's better that people understand your motivation for doing it if it was in fact well justified.

(or maybe i just missed the post where it was explained)


edit:

i think the reason people are assuming it was over him being a suspected/confirmed multiaccounter is the fact that a lot of the people backing you up on this are doing so on the premise that bryn is a cheating multi accounter / deserves to be killed.

i dunno, its a bit easier for me to be self-righteous about this since i think they are largely useless for MTTs IME (very few people i dont know have a sample size indicative of anything). but in the land of grey areas that poker is, it feels to me like a smaller wrong than multiaccounting.

fwiw though i do think those sites are all ****ing terrible for online poker in general and wish they'd go away.

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QF"avoid kissing until the bleeding stops."

do you feel that way about training sites?

TOS are not there to protect the 'integrity of the game' they are there to legally protect the sites and to boost profitability in whatever way possible.

In a realistic sense, multiaccounting gives someone much less of an EV edge over the field as lets say using PTR in a cash game gives an EV edge to the player. Allowing people to multiaccount MTT's will cause a mess so sites disallow it. Allowing to people to use PTR HEM etc. promotes profitability of the site because it motivates and gets people playing more hands.

I agree with you though, in this lawless scumbag filled land we call online poker, I guess the TOC is the only thing we can only go by as our line of morality because it's the only thing the sites can enforce.

Though, when a site can't enforce it's TOC at all (like only being allowed to play on one account and not play on your friends' IDs), you can't really blame the players for taking advantage of it especially after such a high % of the population has done it atleast once before. It makes me laugh when people get mad at Brian Townsend or PA / whoever for making new ID's to get action. Like seriously people, the **** do you expect.

I mean multi-accounting is such a crime because in the rare event your EV might be higher if you're on the same table as yourself and you have two hands...but thats infinitely small to the obvious possibility of two cash game players playing on the same table on the phone or whatever telling eachother their hands which I'm sure happens 24/7 especially at high stakes where there aren't many tables.

But yeah who's really to draw the line where edges are morally correct or not (ala hastings/n co ftr i do not think they did anything wrong). Even people who are morally sound 99% of the time and respectable in almost all senses will break the rules from time to time in secret and justify it to themselves somehow out of greed.

Everyones cheating in one way or another, atleast sometimes, whether they know it or not, and everyones' opinion about what is cheating or not differs so much that any discussion on ghosting or w/e is such a huge joke lol.

Sorry this isn't on the topic of bling bling and spitty spat, maybe ActionJeff should start the Poker Police and go around punking everyone on camera? That would be fresh atleast.

i've spit at 3 people in my lifetime, 2 guy and a chick.

all 3 times within 5 seconds, i was fighting (the chick's b/f obv)..which was the point.

i kinda assumed that that was the point. that you wanted to fight.

if you spit on someone, or someone spits on you, you're fighting. wtfpokerplayers.

You clearly can't throw a punch if you're in a high stakes poker tournament, where fighting will get you ejected.

If I can afford to play in the first place then I can afford to loose. I wouldnt care if I kicked out of a 10k tourney for beating the living sht out of someone for spitting in my face! Its called SELF RESPECT!

It's called being an impulsive redneck.

rekrul, antonius changed id's to legitimately get action. townsend did it because he was embarrassed about dropping down and wasnt getting action from weak regs. he was tryin to make a buck and build back up but at an unfair advantage.

he gets plenty of action under his name now and back then too. so please, dont make it sound like he did it because he couldnt even get a game because thats bs.

well, if by bad you mean bad for people who were already making a living playing poker (particularly mid-stakes poker) prior to the influx of training sites, then yeah, training sites are bad for poker. but if i had to guess, training sites have been pretty good for poker in general. people like to continue to do something if they think they're getting better, or even if they just think there's potential to get better. training sites have probably increased the -- i'm not sure what the word for it is, but like, "repeat customer frequency" -- for poker sites a huge amount.

It's pretty simple.

1. BK screwed AJ out of $.

2. AJ got pissed. AJ spit in his face to try and get the theif to fight. The wigger wants none of it. AJ agree's that spitting in his face wasn't the best move.

3. BK posts lies to try and make himself look better.



Hopefully nobody does anything stupid and ends up in jail.

MR. JEff please answer.

I do NOT CARE about spit. YOU SPIT ON me. Different thing.

BUT my question is.

DO you not see, because you are young man who has played in the casino.

DO YOu not see difference in outcomes.

I have only been playing on ONLINE POKERSITES for a few months. BUT IT has been my experience that something is strange. THE NUMBERS that I have ben quoted in POKERSTOVE are not appearing with any regularity.

NO. I am not suggesting
ill intent or dirty dealing but something is highly suspicious .


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