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I'd guess Lamb is probably only playing 90% or so due to % swaps with his balla buddies. If Staszko really is playing mostly himself then damn, dude has heart

11-08-2011 , 07:28 PM

#2902

wild will

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Black winter day

Its a known fact the Heinz is backed by MaxKatz's fund, so he probably has sold from 50 to 70% of himself. Max wrote already, that he will be a rich man after tonight, so i imagine it's closer to 60-70% sold. From what i know/heard, Stazsko bought it by himself, promissed 10-15% to his dad.

Don't know about Lamb, but can't imagine he needs to sell shares with his previous results.

P.S. - Gogogogogogogog Benba!

everything makes a ton of sense, gives me even more reason to root for MARTIN!!!!

11-08-2011 , 07:31 PM

#2903

PromethEV+s

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The best thing about Hellmuth's commentary is how excited he gets. That counts for something. Yes, the reads and strat are gross, but the enthusiasm is entertaining. OB is the **** and I wish they'd have him on again. As for the chopping debate, I know in 1995 Dan Harrington offered the table a chop when they were 6-handed and everyone gave him the fu, and he went on to win.

11-08-2011 , 07:33 PM

#2904

Firaldo87

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Black winter day

Its a known fact the Heinz is backed by MaxKatz's fund, so he probably has sold from 50 to 70% of himself.

He has well over 50% of himself fwiw (inc swaps he did with friends <--/brag)

11-08-2011 , 07:42 PM

#2905

PokerFan2008

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Why did Hellmuth get bounced?

11-08-2011 , 08:02 PM

#2906

lukke

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Gale

I'd guess Lamb is probably only playing 90% or so due to % swaps with his balla buddies. If Staszko really is playing mostly himself then damn, dude has heart

as i already said somewhere he stated in a czech interview that he only sold 3% to a friend

11-08-2011 , 08:04 PM

#2907

David123

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so who's on instead of Hellmuth? I kinda liked him, as another poster pointed out, he gets really really excited which is contagious, him and antonio bickering was rather entertaining as well.

11-08-2011 , 08:08 PM

#2908

bigfoot1000

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I like Hellmuth, because even when he's bad, he's entertainingly bad.

11-08-2011 , 08:11 PM

#2909

sinner

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigfoot1000

I like Hellmuth, because even when he's bad, he's entertainingly bad.

yes

11-08-2011 , 08:21 PM

#2910

Big_Mick00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Firaldo87

He has well over 50% of himself fwiw (inc swaps he did with friends <--/brag)

How much you got?

11-08-2011 , 08:29 PM

#2911

Shark_Bait

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Just to be clear, deals are allowed at the WSOP. Moneymaker notably tried to make a deal with Farha when it got HU. Since then because of the pressence of online poker no rumours of deal making have ever surfaced. I personally think there is 3 reasons for this.

1. People are much less likely to do deals when they don't know each other.
2. At higher buyins players are more confident in their playing abilites ego or not.
3. 1st place is worth more than the prize money stated, because of the sponsorship and exposure it brings.

11-08-2011 , 08:30 PM

#2912

luckofficial

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Quote:

as i already said somewhere he stated in a czech interview that he only sold 3% to a friend

and this 3% is 120k$ GTD n can even reach 260k$
***** sick

11-08-2011 , 08:30 PM

#2913

Bolsta

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PokerFan2008

Why did Hellmuth get bounced?

He bounced himself, I heard that he was invited to drink DOM with Justin Bieber.

11-08-2011 , 08:31 PM

#2914

Conz

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i really hate to be that guy, but it's live on espn at 9 right? they arent gonna show the same table as sunday are they?

11-08-2011 , 08:32 PM

#2915

EddyB66

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At the beginning of the broadcast they mentioned giving second place money to top 6 and Heinz rejected it. So they already were talking about it. I wouldn't do a deal. I already have 4 mil guaranteed I'll flip for another 4.

11-08-2011 , 08:37 PM

#2916

wild will

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait

sources? everything you're saying makes sense, but I'm still convinced players find a good way to deal given the money at stake.

11-08-2011 , 08:37 PM

#2917

Bolsta

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait

.....1. People are much less likely to do deals when they don't know each other.

If the tournament organisers allow and arrange the deal and the agreed payouts then fine, but where it is on you to do the deal and sort out payments later, you would have to trust the other person or person pretty well to even consider is unless you get lawyers involved to write up a contract etc, which I assume in most cases is not feasible in the time available.

11-08-2011 , 08:41 PM

#2918

taka taka

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estimated time to start?

11-08-2011 , 08:43 PM

#2919

Zinger

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As some have stated, ignoring Hellmuth's antics away from simply being an announcer, Hellmuth is very contagious as one. If you simply focus on that, he's enthused, eager to watch, and always paying attention. Negreanu and him both show through the work they put in researching players that they really love what they do.

11-08-2011 , 08:43 PM

#2920

wild will

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taka taka

estimated time to start?

~1.25hr

11-08-2011 , 08:44 PM

#2921

pindawg

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I thought they would kick Hellmuth from the booth today... his commentary was very biased and he talked A TON of **** about Lamb. Very unprofessional.

11-08-2011 , 08:45 PM

#2922

Mike Minetti

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I guess the reason poker games continue to be good is that the average player can't figure out how to add & subtract time zones.

11-08-2011 , 08:45 PM

#2923

wild will

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bolsta

this is so true, we're all biased against phil for one reason or another (and obviously there are plenty of reasons). but he's a good fit for this, if not for us, than for ESPN.