Yes but how do you know $5K is not made up? I'm not sure what criterion Admo used to calculate his expenses, and what % of that amount constitutes of a vig.
If he really spent $5K on lawyer fees in a month trying to recover $30K that this would be even more incredibly ******ed business decision than shipping aforementioned $30K in the first place. What if CF balks and the case goes to trial? At that rate Admo would've spent at least $20K more trying to recover initial $30K. What if CF loses in court but declares bankruptcy?

One prop bet you cats can grab right here. If Admo sues Steve, Steve will sue Admo. Book it.

It's harder to declare bankruptcy than one would think is it not? Excuse my ignorance..?

Phil has acknowledged that his ego is a "fake" ego, I don't think that counts.

We're not disagreeing. All I'm saying is all costs, interest, and whatever else would have to be documented and then recovered in full in order for the person who bet on Admo getting all his money and expenses back to win. Random vig could not be charged; it would have to be statutory interest or something else the parties agreed to.

Well, let me dial this in a bit.

As part of the main lawsuit, you can only get fees and costs per contract or statute.

However, for some types of debts, (probably the one here ... I'd have to look it up) you can claim interest from the date of the lawsuit. No lawsuit was filed, so those provisions don't come into play.

"You're the man!"

You had to walk to school?!?

When I was a lad we had to carry the teacher on our shoulders twelve miles up hill in a snowstorm to a paper bag in a ditch.

We are told it was a straight-up swap. So what was in it for Admo was the premium the market puts on cash in the bank over an online poker account balance.

You had it easy!

When I was a lad I had to get up at 10:30 at night, half an hour before I went to bed, eat a lump of dry poison, work 26 hours a day down at mill AND pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our dad would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Alleluia.

Seriously ... I think that Admo is awesome, but this is never going to happen.

It might have already happened, but don't expect him to tell you about it...at least for a month or so.

can someone post a quick reply as to the update of this saga?

has the one dude been paid his 30k? has he gotten any of it? is the theif going to face any legal action?

thanks.

Sure thing.

They both decided that their differences were irreconcilable, so they agreed to an Old West-style pistol duel where they ended up killing each other. Their heirs didn't understand the issues involved in the dispute and decided to call everything even the way they had left it.

In the meantime, the website Admo had set to launch at the expiration of the countdown ended up going live. The next week, thirty-five people from all over the world were arrested for attempting to steal Steven Ware's identity, presumably because they did not know he had perished in the aforementioned duel.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

And you try and tell the young people of today that ..... they won't believe you.

I have an opinion!

CF paid the guy back weeks ago. Admo, who'd started this whole thing, didn't bother coming on and telling the community until well after CF came on and said "I paid him and all those other guys back weeks ago."

Admo's trying to squeeze another $5k out for expensive lawyers he consulted, and for pain, suffering, and mental anguish.

The mods on here obv have their own axe to grind with CF, as they locked up two other threads about this that got too long and merged it into this one, putting the guy's name in the title, telling the world he stole money, but not mentioning he paid it back. One of them even posted a private psyche analysis of CF, which can be found further back.

Hear, hear.

Your summary has a decidedly pro CF tone about it, and is therefor not a very good summary at all

Really? Did you actually take the time to read the thread? If you had you would realize why this is a moronic argument.

Please at least try to read a thread before commenting.

You have no clue what you are talking about. There was a thread that got deleted by Fiji when he was still a mod that I never even saw, but I assume it was started by Admo. We locked the next thread because it had turned into a discussion of legal minutiae and Canadian health care. At that time every one was like, OMG mods are covering up for Fiji, how can they lock that thread. Then someone (not a mod) started another thread almost immediately, which eventually got locked after there was no update and the thread turned into a few hundred off-topic posts about nothing. Then Admo started this thread. This thread was also locked after no updates lead to non-stop off-topic posts, and then was re-opened to update that Fiji paid his stakers back, then locked, then re-opened because there were complaints that it had been locked.

Mods did not start any of the threads, nor did they add Steven's name (though I think his name may have been removed at one point). None of the threads have ever been merged. Except for the thread deleted by Fiji, all of the threads are still in NVG. I have no idea what purpose keeping this thread open is serving anymore, so I'll lock it again until there is an update on Admo getting his expenses back, or until someone invovled in the situation asks for it to be re-opened. Also, if another mod wants to open, be my guest.

Words to live by on 2+2 right here.

Half of the posts in this thread never would have been posted if people had taken the time to read the thread and tried to understand what happened, hence my farcical reply to the "updates?" post a few up from this post.

Just for the record: I don't believe I have an axe to grind. I truly was trying to encourage Steve to come on here under his own account and communicate with the 2+2 community.
I honestly believed he could at least partly salvage his reputation if he was contrite and honest. Instead, he calls me a scumbag under a gimmick account and makes it seem like admo is the bad guy.
He also refuses to admit that the other people he scammed were not put out by this and were not 100% confident they would be paid back.

He had every opportunity to do the right thing. Paying back (what he has so far) is a big part of that of course. But his attitude is pretty lousy. I'm not out to get him. That's just how it is (imo of course).
If his attitude was better I would have no problem admitting that and would congratulate him for being a stand-up guy and apparently learning from his mistakes.

It should also be noted that I did not post any psych analysis of him. I merely posted for someone else who sent me a PM. That poster was merely copying the 9 things of the DSM-whatever-it-is. The only analysis in there was him saying that he thought all 9 applied to Steve.
As best I can tell, I think it might be correct but it's kind of hard to say.

Anyway, I think a lock of this one is fine. If admo has more news he can start a new thread. If Steve would like to post some more (and I still encourage him to do so because I think he can improve upon his last attempt) then he can do same.
If anyone else involved in this (JP-OSU or whoever else) would like to post more on this issue then they can do same.