I think with all the Panic attacks Steve was having, that might of been once the case. However, with most of the money paid back (and Steve's family aware of his situation and most likely watching over him), I think Steve could possibly be in a better place now.

BTW, has anyone read Chris MoneyMaker's Book? In it, Chris in regards to Sports Betting, discribes a very simular situation (in over his head kind of thing) that he got himself into (when he was about Steve/CF's age BTW). It was with Chris' Dad's money to boot.

This is grand theft. Go to the police immediately and you can get his ass locked up for 2-10.

Stealing $30,000 isn't something that the justice system takes lightly.

**** the money. I'd rather see this douchebag rot in prison.

The longer you wait, the harder it will be to press charges. You need to get in touch with law enforcement as soon as possible for this to be a criminal matter. If it ends up being soley civil, you're never seeing that money or justice. The civil court system is remarkably inefficient.

I wonder who bought up all of CF's BAP shares and at what agreement? He must have spent a lot of time convincing someone to buy him out.

$5,000 is $5,000. If Admo has to pay fees to get his lent out money back, then CF should be paying for it not Admo. I am using the word, "lent" because I am not sure how to phrase. So please don't attack me with, "it wasn't lent money" posts ect.

If you had an agreement to send someone money and they send it back and didn't and YOU had to go through all this trouble, would you like to be stuck with whatever fees were attianted through having to get it back? I don't think so. If Admo doesn't get it back, hes out 5k, I don't think that can be considered fair from any view point.

Damn it looks like I need a new avatar

AGREED: AS LONG AS YOU DO IT WITH YOUR OWN MONEY

hold off MrFizz CF is still waiting for an apology from all 2+2ers that criticized his unintended thefts and subsequent behavior

It's a shame that THE THIEF still has friends with lo morals on this board.Sticking up for a thief says a lot about your own morals.

JH tilts me so bad.

Yes, it works so well for (catholic) priests doesn't it

Steve - just getting caught up and read your post. When I was encouraging you to participate in the thread I was thinking of something a bit more contrite and appropriate than what you came up with.

Yes, I do think you owe Admo and the 2+2 community a public apology. It was your reputation which you obtained mostly via 2+2 that gave you the opportunity to 'borrow' these funds which you had no right to and for people like admo and others to have to go out of their way to try to figure out what was happening.

You ABSOLUTELY owe the 2+2 community a public apology for your previous abuse of mod powers when you were deleting all those threads as well as for you gimmick accounts.
You owe me an apology in public for calling me a scumbag on your Michael Vick account.
You apologized via PM which is nice. But if you call somebody a scumbag in public and then apologize in private, "Hey...sorry I called you a scumbag in front of everyone" then that's not quite the same.
Note that this is somewhat different than calling someone a scumbag in private which you did to me several times too but which you also apologized for.

Also, you saying that the vast majority of things said in this thread are false strikes me as a bit odd. If you would like to address any specific thing said in this thread then you should do so. You should be willing to allow admo to post any and all of the PM's and e-mails exchanged between you two if your behavior after the scamming thing was so good. He has been told that he can't do that and he is respecting that. He's willing to post any and all e-mails he has written to you I believe. You aren't willing to let any of that stuff out in public. Is it because your behavior is less than spectacular? I suspect so.

You saying that all the people whom you ripped off absolutely knew they were going to get paid back is somewhat laughable (as JPOSU pointed out).
If you had traded $5k with someone and they didn't complete the swap and then they refused to respond for several days then there is NO WAY that you wouldn't be worried about your money. None. You could not have 100% confidence that you were going to get paid back pretty much regardless of who you did the transfer with. Especially considering your failure to respond to some people over a few days I'm pretty sure they were correct to be concerned about ever seeing their money and wondering what was happening.
Honestly, how can you even think otherwise?

Your attitude in your last post really surprises me as I had hoped that this whole mess might have ended up being something of a positive learning experience for you. But your lack of understanding for the distress you caused the people you took the money from and who you were essentially running away from is really incredible.
How one can actually think that all those people somehow weren't worried about this at all is completely beyond me and the psychology of this fascinates me.

ds owned

Perhaps its hard for someone that hasn't ever had to work a 50 hour week for $500 to understand the value of money, or perhaps some people simply can't understand that not everyone has the same value of money and assuming that they do is douchy and bad

Not sure if Steve meets either category but it seems likely

Let it go for Christ sakes, you got your ****ing money.

It's cost him $4,453.22 to get his ****ing money. Why exactly should he let it go?

You gonna do that when you see Dutch Boyd too, Matlock?

MicroBob,

Don't waste your time.

Good stuff, I just read this entire thread. He got his 30K back after an extended period of time, during which he was unsure if he would ever recover the principle, much less any interest (if it came to that). My understanding is that it was a swap and he should've gotten his money within a day or so.

Good luck Admo in collecting the interest and legal fees. Cornell Fiji's recent statement in this thread was impressively unapologetic.

Because the ****ing idiot is lucky he got goddamn dime.

All he wants to do now is rub salt in the wound and gloat. It's no longer about money to him it's about how much pain he can inflict. He's out for revenge. He wants blood.

If he got his money tomorrow, he'd find something else to cry about. He'd demand a better apology, he'd demand this or demand that. He's just an attention seeker.

I mean really, he's getting off on this. Take your 30K, hop in your Porsche and ride off into the sunset.

If I were the kid, I'd say go ahead and file for a judgment. I'll countersue right back for harassment.

You won--drop it.

OK Steve, whatever

Why is he lucky for receiving money for which he traded? How did he win? He was put in limbo for weeks and had to take action to get paid back.

you should consider not posting anymore and look for hobbies that you're better at

I think Admo has illustrated that it is possible to show steadfast courage and determination and get results. Personally, I thought Steven Ware would have been in hiding, perhaps drowning his pain in alcohol and drugs at some obscure casino. Maybe there was some critical part of the story that we were all missing. I suspect 'Ivy League Boy' has parents with an unlimited trust fund.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are dozens of five or six figure losses in Mr. Ware's future (or should we say his parents or whomever will voluntarily or involuntarily assume the role of enabler). He's too young and everything is too easy. He thinks he's entitled to too much for too little. I'm sure his panic attacks were quickly allayed with a few $500 dollar trips to a fancy psychiatrist and a couple bottles of Xanax. Admo should have little difficulty persuading Mr. Ware (the elder one) to make the final 5K installment.

Mr. Ware, you will realistically never be a winning gambler. Stop now. You barely dodged a few years in the big house. Don't you think you would be better off if you found something more meaningful and productive to do with the rest of your life? You certainly lack the cognitive skills and emotional stability to be a professional gambler. You could use some intensive cognitive therapy and learn that the universe doesn't care about you being 'treated fairly.'

Admo, I think about a hundred or so victims of Russ 'Dutch' Boyd should consider hiring you as a consultant. He needs to have his balls put in a vice-just like Mr. Ware has experienced. Am I the only one alarmed and puzzled about Russ Boyd evading legal and financial responsibility for his well-publicized crimes? It's time to put the squeeze on.

Steven Ware, you are not a 'bad' person; you just have been behaving very poorly. If you want to learn how to live more productively, effectively and ethically-you might look into Albert Ellis, PHD and his REBT or CBT. If it helped me loose 120lbs it can probably help you unlearn some of your self-defeating behaviors and ideologies. Just a suggestion.

Thanks,

Jeffrey

ive always known that steve aka cornell fiji was a big piece of s*** and a dikhead but welcome to the common brand new generation

In Texas, the toughest, craziest guy would win here. If I were either one, and there is absolutely no chance this side of Oldtimer's disease, that I would ever, on my very worst day, act like either one of these guys, I'd be over the top mad about now.

Admo contacted Fiji's parents, sending the law dogs around in the middle of the night. This was done in an honest manner based on concern for Fiji's best interests and to keep him from harming himself. With all the threats made here, in Texas someone might get shot. Fiji could say he always said he was going to pay, and did. I do not believe any of you young people should put yourself way out there, making someone mad that you just don't know. A gambler needs a well-tuned fear index. Know when to walk away, know when to run.

This is a hot coal issue now. It is like each is carrying around a hot coal waiting to throw it at the other guy. It burns and burns and you can't deal with anything else.

Gamblers are the kings of bouncing back. Get over it and continue trying to grow up, both of you.

Johnny Hughes

The complete and utter stupidity of anyone chiming in on this to take CF's side is shocking... no, scratch that, it's actually disturbing. Most of you come off as bitter and jealous about the fact that 30k was something casually traded amongst 2, um, "acquainted strangers". Admo is 100% entitled to the damages he is claiming.

How old is this kid? 21? 24? Where in the hell is a broke kid of 24 going to get 30k?

Admo demanded payment immediately. Yea, right. The kid said he would pay. Wasn't good enough. Light a fire under the kids ass. Kid pays--did the fire matter? Who knows.

Now Admo is snickering about how he wants damages. Take your damages and shove it.

You got paid. You cried and cried about how you wanted to get paid. So you got paid. Shut up and move on.

But no, I'm gonna get you suckah! The stupid ****ing ********** trades 30K with a complete stranger and gets ****ing paid!!!

Not enough. I want to crush his ****ing nuts in a vice and get my bucket of blood.

Get over yourself. Move on.