Feel like this deserves its own discussion thread.


From 888 ROW thread:
https://gyazo.com/989c5fba3546a17a3110b202d8f5729b

Some of my thoughts:
-Firstly, this could be a sign that 888 ROW will be making this change eventually, so this could potentially impact you if you are in the global pool.
-This is a pretty big deal -- in the past, a lot of botters and colluders have been caught by PLAYERS who have access to hand histories and can do analyses in their own databases on their own time. This makes it impossible for the community to self-police
-in addition, not being able to track your own individual results is a pretty big annoyance. Also makes it so there is no way to review your past sessions/hands which changes a fundamental part of how people get better at poker.


I guess my main question is WHY are they making this move? If it's part of a push towards not having HUDs, I think this is the wrong move (especially for higher stakes) for the following reasons:
-there are better ways to do this -- anonymous games, screen name changes, etc
-it's a small player pool where most regs know everyone's screennames on each site. Therefore, you could theoretically still have HUD stats on someone if you just look at their stats on Party/Stars. I think in the end this just makes things even worse for recreational players.

Would be curious to hear what others think and for 888/WSOP to post their justification for this change.


PS: If a mod could edit this to embed the image, that would be awesome.

xposted from NVG: Feel like this deserves its own discussion thread.


From 888 ROW thread:
https://gyazo.com/989c5fba3546a17a3110b202d8f5729b

Some of my thoughts:
-Firstly, this could be a sign that 888 ROW will be making this change eventually, so this could potentially impact you if you are in the global pool.
-This is a pretty big deal -- in the past, a lot of botters and colluders have been caught by PLAYERS who have access to hand histories and can do analyses in their own databases on their own time. This makes it impossible for the community to self-police
-in addition, not being able to track your own individual results is a pretty big annoyance. Also makes it so there is no way to review your past sessions/hands which changes a fundamental part of how people get better at poker.


I guess my main question is WHY are they making this move? If it's part of a push towards not having HUDs, I think this is the wrong move (especially for higher stakes) for the following reasons:
-there are better ways to do this -- anonymous games, screen name changes, etc
-it's a small player pool where most regs know everyone's screennames on each site. Therefore, you could theoretically still have HUD stats on someone if you just look at their stats on Party/Stars. I think in the end this just makes things even worse for recreational players.

Would be curious to hear what others think and for 888/WSOP to post their justification for this change.


PS: If a mod could edit this to embed the image, that would be awesome.

Surely it's better to link to the post or thread than a screenshot of the thread?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=19029

Cos then people would see the latest post in that thread, which reads:

seems that they are backtracking and saying it was a mistake rather than a planned change. Strange but I guess happy to hear that.

oh okay. That's certainly interesting that the rep initially said it would be gone and now is saying it's a mistake. Glad to hear though that hand histories aren't gone just yet.

Withdrawing and depositing elsewhere if I cant get my HHs and use a HUD.

I got a new computer and my notes on players do not transfer to my new computer when I download wsop.com. Is there a file on the old computer I can copy over to the new computer that contains the notes? Thanks.

I want to move them to a new computer (windows 10)?