Hello,

Sorry that my first post is a problem...

But i play online poker since 2007. Started at Partypoker ofcourse.... and then Pokerstars and FullTilt and never had problems on any of those sites!

I Deposit money last week on William Hill and played super headsup turbo's and won 9 in a row. That made me like 2000 euro's. Now i wanted to withdrawal 1200 euro and keep playing with the rest. But they refuse to cashout my money. They are stalling my money for no reason!!! All they say is that a network specialist is checking my account... for what reason??? (Im from NL)
Two days ago i received this email from WH
I tried to login, but still can't login and emailed WH and talked in the chat with them and then i got another email...

This drives me crazy and im planning to go in august to Malaga that is not really far from Gibraltar and take my 2k! Im not a little kid... But then again i really don't like to treat! But this is going way to far in my head! Im afraid that they keep MY money with a weak excuse... Please be aware, where you deposit your money!

Smebber

Your play pattern is very common for people who are committing a form of fraud (person 1 deposits with stolen credit card and loses to person 2 at the tables and person 2 cashes out).

Does not matter if you say you have played online poker from 2007, you mentioned you just deposited last week on Will Hill so from their perspective you have played a week, won 9 tournaments in a row ( I assume vs the same player though you can give me your screen name to confirm), and then tried to cash out, which is a textbook case of "Fraud 101."

If you are legit then your mistake is that your account looks like one that did what I said above, but they will clear that out if you are indeed legit. If I had to take a side I would take the you are not legit for now, but hope that better explains the situation.

All the best.

Solid BRM as well, no wonder it raised all possible security flags ...

By the way, was this your first deposit? If so, an additional play through requirement may be in place on top as well.

Well ok but my WH account is not 1 week old. And it was also not my first deposit. But it was my first cashout i believe...

There a 1-3 waiting period on all cashouts after a cc deposit(usually) to make sure you're card clears before you're allowed to withdraw.

You have no posts here and lots of threads similar to yours tend to be people who tried to do a very simple scam and got caught, so again your problem if legit is that you are copying the behavior of all of those who scammed before you.

If you say your screen name I can use sharkscope to better prove whether you are legit or not by your game history, and I will say in advance that if you choose to not share that information that is fine but it will pretty much confirm the likely general belief that you tried to do a very simple scam.

if you want help PM me please

im not sure what a missing BRM has to do with security raising flags...but ok

anyhow i can try helping you

Here you have my Sharkscope history. (KSmebber) I admit i don't play alot at WH but just check my hands if possible. I have also played some Speed Poker on WH.
And i understand your point Monteroy. But this time they are wrong!

Onlyfor: What can you do for me? You know WH people?

I do play same levels as you $200 - $500 sitngo's.

I have never saw this JamesHard you have been playing againts, but Pakkpatak I have been playing myself from $350 to $500 and he is really good player. I think this JamesHard is the reason for this as you have won much from him.

I wonder who JamesHard on iPoker won all his funds from

guess im too slow

Everyone who posts these threads say they are honest, whether they are honest or not.

Here is your problem, you have played a total of 10 games in your life at Will Hill, and they were all relatively high buy in heads up sit and gos. You played a few in May and then suddenly on July 22nd you decided it was time to grind some HU SnGs.

6 of the 7 you played on that day were against a player named JamesHard (where you won all 6) and he has played a total of 21 tournaments in his entire poker life on Will Hill, all coincidentally also on July 22.

If this is not a very simplistic chip dump / scam then I give you credit for picking a day at random and playing an opponent at random (who also chose that day) to play nearly all of your games on Will Hill where you won every single one.

From this it seems pretty clear:

You guys were doing a chip dump/fraud of some kind, and in one of the sit and gos another player sat in (which you did win).

I highly doubt you will be getting the money back.

All the best.

It actually gets better. This JamesHard player who just started playing on the 22nd of July had some pretty good luck earlier vs a player named Luckyhotgirl

Luckyhotgirl by coincidence also started his or her poker career on Will Hill that same July 22nd (popular day) aside from a single tournament in May.

Naturally the first tournaments this person played were $5,000 heads up sit and gos going 1-3 vs a player named SuuBZer0 (the only one bright enough to lock his sharkscope). Common for new tournament players to jump into those $5k HU SnGs after all (this account had played a lot of cash games in the past before that) .

After that Luckyhotgirl decided to take on JamesHard and go 1-12 in heads up sit and gos in their match between 3:04 and 5:06 pm.

James Hard then took on our OP hero between 6:56 and 7:43 pm before calling it a career at Will Hill, and that is when our hero tried to cash out.

Rainbow Warrior is a lot better at this than I am, but what it looks like is the following:


Luckyhotgirl got a lot of money in that account in some manner about $12-$15,000, or it was a hacked account (my general belief after seeing the players cash history). After dropping $10,000 net to SuuBZer0 he moved onto playing another new account in Jameshard and lost about $2,500 to that account going 1-11 in matches (I like that they tossed in a random win each time to make it loom more legit).

That was it for the Luckyhotgirl account and after that the Jameshard account (no cash game history for Jameshard) lost all of it to our hero, the OP...


Aint looking too good for the OP now! Quite the criminal masterminds at work here...

All the best.

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Edit/MH: See also http://pokerprolabs.com/suubzer0/partypoker

Glad you are not working for a poker site security department then.

@topic: Pass the Dutchie ... but hey it was worth a try dude!

is this your explanation ? not bad .. we are all smarter now but the smartest of all of us is just you

just tell me, beeing the bimbo for poker770 was making you a mastermind of the security department ?


back to the story ? SuuBZer0 it doesnt mean he was a WH player or ?

WP Monteroy WP