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12-20-2014 , 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by SuddenlyGood2
duck poker
I just downloaded the Software and it is definitely WPN software but is it actually on the WPN network? The games aren't the same. Either way, I'd say the site is probably legit judging from the software but I don't think you could be super sure just from the Kahnawake thing. But I could be wrong.
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12-20-2014 , 12:18 PM
Bankroll: 60.71

But looks like it's gone, as duckpoker are refusing to allow me to withdraw it.
They got back to me and said they will only accept photographic ID (and listed documents I do not have).

Pretty gutted as I've spent quite a lot of time getting this to $60.

Hmm, going to take a break now from poker for a few days, and then explore options in terms of reporting this scam to any necessary regulatory bodies.

At least I had the forsight to try to withdraw now instead of 2 months time when I had continued to grind it up.

So a total complete and utter scam, nowhere in the terms does it say you need a driving licence or passport to be able to withdraw money from the site. They let you play on the site generating them rake and then just dont let you withdraw it. I get the impression they'll just rob what they can get away with.

I'll just post it all over every forum I can find and if anyone ever asks you about duckpoker - then you heard it here first.

by the way - thanks for going to that trouble chiefsfan

Last edited by SuddenlyGood2; 12-20-2014 at 12:38 PM.
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12-20-2014 , 03:45 PM
Sick bump.

Presumably you read the first page of this thread (ignoring KAVILLA's nonsense)? A couple of people suggested that against all odds the KGC had helped them get money back from sites; someone posted the complaints email address (with a warning that communications containing profanities etc would probably get filtered out).

What were the documents they want that you don't have?
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12-20-2014 , 04:43 PM
thread created 2 months ago about Duck Poker payout problem.

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If you are looking for a legit option to play online poker, my sincere advice moving forward is to avoid playing on a site with 12 active players.

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Kahn
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12-20-2014 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by KAVILLA
what has the Isle of Man ever done to deserve any respect or to differentiate it from any other "gaming commission"

oh ya thats right its pokerstars and good ole pokerstars can do no wrong on 2+2...wonder why??
**sees pokerstars banners on top of this page**
lol, someones gotta fund the books. Same as the fluffy 2+2 podcast. Nothing but fluff.
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12-21-2014 , 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by thunderbolts
Sick bump.

Presumably you read the first page of this thread (ignoring KAVILLA's nonsense)? A couple of people suggested that against all odds the KGC had helped them get money back from sites; someone posted the complaints email address (with a warning that communications containing profanities etc would probably get filtered out).

What were the documents they want that you don't have?
Passport (don't have one), driving license (don't have one), national identity card (uk don't have one), home office travelling documents (never travelled abroad).

Thanks - i'll give the commission a try, and let you know how it went
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12-21-2014 , 01:16 AM
thanks i've just posted there
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12-21-2014 , 01:35 AM
Just submitted a complaint to the Kahnawake Gaming Commission, will update you how it goes when I hear back
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12-21-2014 , 09:43 AM
What will you do if they ask you for some form of identification? Apparently, you do not really exist.

The other dude who had his crazy manifesto blog about Duck Poker actually got paid in the end, and it seems like you would also if you actually provided a simple form of ID, which most adult humans possess.

Why not get one, provide it and get your $60 back if it matters that much? Odds are you will need to provide it at some point to any site you play on anyway, whether it is a throwaway site run by 2 dudes in a basement like Duckpoker or a site like Pokerstars.
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12-21-2014 , 12:15 PM
Because a passport costs more than the money on duckpoker...

and its up to 85$ now although i'm treating it as play money and just logging in when bored.

and it does matter that much, because its my poker bankroll and i spent 2 weeks getting it, or at least it did, before it became play money.

and it's totally beyond any reality to even start to say that their is some modicum of appropriateness with what duck poker have done or are doing here. You dont have this ID, ok, you dont get your money. WTF?

I honestly believe when they came up with the scam they called it duck poker because they thought the suckers that sign up will be like sitting ducks for them (i can imagine them agreeing it when they set the site up).
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12-21-2014 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SuddenlyGood2
Because a passport costs more than the money on duckpoker...

and its up to 85$ now although i'm treating it as play money and just logging in when bored.

and it does matter that much, because its my poker bankroll and i spent 2 weeks getting it, or at least it did, before it became play money.

and it's totally beyond any reality to even start to say that their is some modicum of appropriateness with what duck poker have done or are doing here. You dont have this ID, ok, you dont get your money. WTF?

I honestly believe when they came up with the scam they called it duck poker because they thought the suckers that sign up will be like sitting ducks for them (i can imagine them agreeing it when they set the site up).

All sites will pretty much require you to provide a form of ID, so if you ever want to withdraw funds from anywhere in this industry you may want to consider getting yourself a piece of identification. This is "Common Sense 101," and to be blunt, you choosing to be unidentifiable is the source of your issue. I would ask how you function in the year 2014 without any form of ID, but in the end that is not really much of a concern. Your problem, and your choice in the end whether to do the simple steps to solve it.
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12-21-2014 , 01:04 PM
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you choosing to be unidentifiable is the source of your issue
I'm not choosing to be unidentifiable i simply do not own the specific documents they have asked for. There is a very big difference. The site is a scam pure and simple.
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12-21-2014 , 01:51 PM
How are you going to cash the check without ID?
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12-21-2014 , 03:49 PM
I was planning on using skrill also I have a bank account, birth cert is accceptible I'd for banks in uk
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12-21-2014 , 03:51 PM
Dont get me wrong i hope I'm wrong and the sites not a total 100% scam and khanawake come thru for me. I'll let you know what outcome is whenever its all over now as I've decided not to login to the site anymore and balance is about 140$
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12-21-2014 , 04:18 PM
If they ever reply to you it will be to suggest you get a proper form of ID. TO save you time - assume every single site in this industry will ask you for a form of recent photo ID. Birth certificates or letters from a relative will not count.

You can play on the bitcoin sites if you want as they seem to be in favor of everyone being anonymous, but on any of the normal sites, whether it be Duck Poker, Mallard Poker, Goose Poker, Chicken Poker, Swan Poker, Drake Poker etc will all ask for a photo ID.

Skrill will require some ID as well eventually. You will not be able to duck this ID issue. Welcome to the industry.

All the best.
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12-21-2014 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SuddenlyGood2
I'm not choosing to be unidentifiable i simply do not own the specific documents they have asked for. There is a very big difference. The site is a scam pure and simple.
You need them to play on any online site. All poker sites ask for them to cash out, it is common knowledge. You won't be able to cash out online without I.D.
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12-21-2014 , 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SuddenlyGood2
I was planning on using skrill also I have a bank account, birth cert is accceptible I'd for banks in uk
You're in the UK? Good luck getting any money from any site without proper ID. There's a reason these rules exist. If you're going to play winning online poker anywhere you're going to have to get a passport (you might get away with a provisional driving licence if don't intend to learn to drive, etc). Without that though how's the site even to know that you're over 18, or in a country where it's legal to play poker online, or whatever? Think about this.
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12-22-2014 , 01:50 AM
oh so they don't care if you play illegally as long as you're a losing player and never make a withdrawal, i see
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12-22-2014 , 09:32 AM
Yeah, everyone else is at fault, and you have no responsibility at all despite it being common knowledge and common sense for a player (especially one familiar with 2+2) that a proper form of ID is required for nearly every room.

You are a hero and a martyr. Keep up the noble work.

All the best.
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12-22-2014 , 10:50 AM
stop trolling idiot

All the best
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12-22-2014 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SuddenlyGood2
oh so they don't care if you play illegally as long as you're a losing player and never make a withdrawal, i see
Well, that is true in one sense. One of the primary reasons the sites have to be careful about people's ID is to prevent money laundering (and/or to maintain records for enquiries down the line). If you're not good enough to ever cash out you're not much of a money launderer.

I'm sure the sites would say that they do everything they can to prevent people from playing unlawfully. But cashout is where their primary legal obligations kick in, in the UK at least.

Your approach to all of this is ludicrous.

If you're in a country where it's legal to play (sounds like you're in the UK), old enough to play, and not multiaccounting or otherwise doing something the site doesn't like, just give the site the ID or give up on your money.
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01-02-2015 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
The other dude who had his crazy manifesto blog about Duck Poker actually got paid in the end, and it seems like you would also if you actually provided a simple form of ID, which most adult humans possess.
LOL, that would be me "DUDE who had HIS crazy manifesto blog about Duck Poker."
I did not fully get paid by the way. Duck robbed me of remaining $100 something tournament dollars in the account.

What is going on, DUDE?
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