i have a house and a bank account in italy but I live in Texas. Can I create a Stars account there and play in TX?

Nope.

I was perhaps being nitty, but not in an attacking fashion, note the question mark. There are sites that have weird approaches to Canada. For example, Bodog segregates it's players from the province of Quebec. I believe there are oddities with regard to some of the iPoker skins as well.

And yes, ring-fenced is perhaps a better way to describe what I was saying

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Just after I had a discussion with our daughter yesterday about how people read intent/meaning into the written word that may not be there, I do it myself. Going back now, I can read that sentence two ways, but I only saw the negative at the time. My apologies.

Quebec has always had weird gaming laws, so that doesn't surprise me. I don't *think* any site segregates Canadian players from their ROW players, but there are quite a few (especially iPoker skins, as you allude to) that don't allow us, for mysterious reasons. Too rude, perhaps.

No worries. I actually had a similar problem with the intent/meaning of the written word a few days ago myself. In fact, I have yet to resolve it. Furthermore, I think you just gave me something to work with on hotw to approach a resolution. So thanks

Another quirk about Canada is that all the big eWallets avoid it. No Skrill. No Neteller. I *think* EcoPayz still works but I gave up on them a couple years back.

Either way though, it will be nice when Americans can rejoin with their Canadian brothers on the digital felt en masse!

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Yeah, Neteller was pretty directly attributable to UIGEA fear, as they pulled out here shortly after that. Skrill pulling was as mysterious as numerous poker skins over the last few years, usually citing vague references to (non-existent) legislative changes, which likely really meant "our super risk-averse legal department arbitrarily decided they're frightened by 1) the lack of clarity in your laws that they somehow just noticed; or 2) the influence of US anti-gambling advocates on future Canadian law/policy; or 3) the possibility of pissing off your neighbouring country that we really hope to get back into one day".

Ah, but now I've taken us way off course.

feel like the nj poker scene is drying up....mostly play Borgata/partypoker but seems like the traffic is beginning to trickle....recently found out jersey players can play on betonline has anyone else dealt with betonline and what was there experience

BetOnline is part of the Chico Poker Network. It is the 3rd largest network available in the US and, last I looked, a top 15 network world-wide. There are thousands of 2+2'ers on their site. There is also a thread in Internet Poker about them which you can find here

About the loss of traffic on NJ regulated sites. It very well could be a slowdown in traffic long-term, I haven't looked. However, it is worth noting that this is the summer time. WSOP is ongoing. And traffic always dips at online poker sites at this specific time of year.

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Where can I play limit Holdem? I tried to go on ignition as I assumed they would have it, but their lobby is the pits now. I would prefer not to deposit to find out. Short handed is fine. Any information would be helpful. Thanks!

Yes, it would. But since you didn't give much, you might want to check the first post and see if your state (whatever that is) has any restrictions.

Non regulated state that has lax attitude so no sites serving Americans are blocked. Like to play 10-20 or higher

is there any way to play in the United States without using your social security number to create an account?

Tried scrolling through the last couple pages to see if I could find an answer before I bothered you guys.

Looking for a recommendation for a site based on:
1) Accepting US players
2) easy/fast deposit/withdrawl without bitcoin
3) solid traffic
4) rakeback

really just miss the pre black friday days. US government has a large group of people that just want to generate taxable income, and they just turn us all away. blows my mind to this day.

Pai Wang Luo and Winning Poker Networks are your best bets. Don't expect huge amounts of traffic at 10/20+.

Most sites don't ask for this information.

Check the first post of this thread for a list of sites. The largest networks are Pai Wang Luo > Winning Poker Network > Chico Poker Network > Horizon Network > Grand Network

All of the sites mentioned have deposits and withdrawals using traditional methods (and also bitcoin).

Only Winning, Horizon, and Grand have flat rakeback programs.

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Which one's don't?

ACR required it to sign up for a cash account

Interesting. I wonder if someone else can corroborate this...

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Signed up last year with ACR. Honestly don't remember providing SSN one way or the other. If I did, I didn't lose any sleep over it and sure won't now.

Just starting to play again online and have been playing on ACR but I am looking for some mix games. Are they available on any of the NJ sites? I have heard SWC has some, but I have only heard of nosebleed stakes over there.

SWC Poker is the only place you'll find true mixed games in the US market. The offshore poker sites just don't spread them, mainly due to a lack of demand.

With regard to the stakes played on SWC poker, I can't attest currently. However, it's easy enough to find out. Just download the poker client and look at the lobby. Odds are you won't see much of anything running. Here's the thing though. If you, an unknown name, were to sit down at mixed game tables there, of whatever stakes of your choosing, I'd bet you'll have a game in short order... Of course that game might be short-handed in nature.

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Yeah I'm sure you're fine. I would lose sleep over it though because your SSN can help someone steal your identity.

Does anyone know of a reputable site to play on where you don't have to provide your SSN? Bonus if you can use bitcoin or ethereum

Losing sleep over a business having the last 4 digits of your social is a bit much. None of these sites are requesting the entire number. Furthermore, there is a huge disincentive to stealing customer data for identity theft purposes.


Sites with btc deposits that are reputable and require no doxx... try SWC Poker, Nitrogen sports. Be warned though, very little traffic.

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Here's the unadulterated scoop on limit/mix/draw games if you live in US imo:

1) Ignition killed limit holdem games w their lobby changes, the games are pretty much as dead as ACR limit games. It's too bad cuz they had the largest and softest limit holdem pool by far. But their ownership seems about as interested in poker as Amaya or Merge. Can't blame them; it's not where the big money is compared to their casino/sportsbook

2) SWC, while spreading all the fun draw games, 12 game mix, Big O, and OFC from tiny micro stakes to nosebleeds, and offering 50% rb if you are playing 3 handed or HU - they don't have a ton of traffic. Bornontilt, you can play flhe up to 1k/2k USD on swcpoker.eu and a few weeks back there were some epic days-long matches at these stakes. Zooey, stars NJ should have some mix but the player pool is small. At least it's fully regulated though.

It's a BTC-only site and there is no info required to play. 1 BTC = 1,000 chips. If you are willing to open sit or help start tables, you will get action at any stakes/games. But full games of 6 players are rare at limits above like 5/10 USD. It's my favorite site cuz of the wide range of games offered. It's the only place I can play badeucy or 2-7 td or Big O. They always pay.

3) Here's the stuff nobody will usually mention on 2p2: If you want to play HORSE, HOE, or OE there is an agent based site called pokermania that spreads those games. It's a private poker "club" like the ones in Asia, except this one has a player pool that is almost exclusively American and culled mainly from home games and live MTTs I guess. You need a log in and password and someone to get you invited (I'm not affiliate for anyone or anything, so what's in it for me by mentioning this is a bigger player pool). You can play on your phone which is fun.

Some agents will let you play on credit, just like private agent-based sportsbooks that US punters outside of Vegas usually use. The credit aspect is huge and is good for some and prob not so good for those who aren't as responsible. I prefer these sites aren't regulated. I don't want to get stiffed by some off-shore site with a kahnewaknee or Antiguan gaming certificate w no-name customer service. Very simple, easy, and discreet if you have a reliable agent. That's a big IF

As a recreational player who takes the game seriously, it's too bad that I and others like myself have to go to these crazy lengths in some cases just to find a half decent site that has the games I want to play. I can't beat the specialists at hunl or 6m PLO or hyper turbo SNG. So the only games I can even beat are mix games. Hopefully some people will find some of this info useful and more players will play online tomorrow that aren't playing today.

Until worldwide regulated poker comes back (5-10 years away imo), this is the bs Americans have to deal with to play online. Can you make money playing online in US? Yes. Can you make 100k/yr playing online from US? Lol, gl w that. Plenty of options but hard to tell the contenders from the pretenders. Every site being patronized by US players right now is solid . . . until it isn't

I'm in the streets daily so I think I have a decent perspective for a rec, but things can change faster then the price of ether when it comes to US online poker so if any info I provided needs correction by mods or anybody else, please correct me, otherwise it's not helping anybody. gl all

Do you recall who was playing? Even more, do you know who the fish was?

The credit system is the worst part about that site. Unfunded liabilities are not something I particularly want a site I'm playing on to have. With that said, according to their managment, they are attempting to get rid of the credit system.



Way longer than that, IMHO.

Oh it can be done. I know many people doing it. Some making good multiples of that figure. However, they are not recreational players. They are dedicated, full-time professional grinders. Those with the drive, the desire to nurture and improve their skills, as well as the ability to treat poker like a business can, and do succeed in the US market. But long gone are the days when a serious recreational player can beat up on other rec players to the tune of 100k a year. That ended in 2007

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Intrigued, would love more info. Thx.

Unless you expect him, or someone else capable of answering, to type out a novel, perhaps you could be more specific and let us know what type of info you seek more of

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