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WPN Software is also pretty tilting so I don't think that is much of an argument.

If RB is a huge part of your win-rate then I'd say go with WPN (wouldn't be too scared of the regs there honestly)

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07-19-2014 , 12:22 AM

#3202

hublot

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 194

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Originally Posted by RFoley03

I've been periodically checking the lobby of Bovada and ACR and seems like ACR has more tables at 50NL and 100NL. Is this true? Even though there are more regs at ACR, you don't think the rakeback compensates for this?

bovada hides their full tables, so there are a bunch of full tables you cant see

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07-19-2014 , 12:43 AM

#3203

BigBadBabar

California Elephant

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,553

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Originally Posted by RFoley03

I'm a winning player at 50NL and 100NL on Carbon and I'm leaving. I plan on playing 50NL and 100NL 6max 4-tabling. I heard Bovada has softer games but will the softness of the games compensate for not having rakeback?

carbon doesn't have rakeback either

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07-19-2014 , 03:07 AM

#3204

kahntrutahn

Minbet Millionaire

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,054

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Originally Posted by RFoley03

Poker is an economy/ecology, when rewards are removed, so are regs who depend on them. What is left is a better recreational:regular ratio, and the profit (bb/100) improves accordingly for many winning players (those that stick around to find out).

I.E. in most cases, it works out in the end if one acts like a poker player, and adjusts strategy based on all game conditions and factors.

--
Kahn

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07-19-2014 , 04:16 AM

#3205

ekaluvya

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1

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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar

carbon doesn't have rakeback either

is this true? i was thinking of joining them, and there seem to be some websites that claim that there is rakeback. can someone confirm/explain?

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07-19-2014 , 04:30 AM

#3206

BigBadBabar

California Elephant

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,553

which websites are those? the merge network, of which carbon is a part, doesn't offer rakeback for players any more. they used to, in the past. perhaps some of the sites you're looking at have old info on them?

you might find the merge-specific thread interesting. here is a link to the most recent page in this very long thread: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post44042107

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07-19-2014 , 12:02 PM

#3207

kahntrutahn

Minbet Millionaire

Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,054

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Originally Posted by ekaluvya

is this true? i was thinking of joining them, and there seem to be some websites that claim that there is rakeback. can someone confirm/explain?

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Originally Posted by BigBadBabar

of which carbon is a part, doesn't offer rakeback for players any more. they used to, in the past. perhaps some of the sites you're looking at have old info on them?

BBB is correct. There is no longer rakeback at Merge/Carbon. Flat rakeback was discontinued in January 2013 and hasn't existed since. Any website saying something contrary is extremely out of date, or telling lies.

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Kahn

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07-19-2014 , 03:21 PM

#3208

jay94

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,476

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Originally Posted by RFoley03

Full tables on Bovada are hidden, I can tell you Bovada has more tables and it isn't even close. That being said you can only play on 4 games on Bovada, so if your a big multi-tabler you may want to try WPN.

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07-19-2014 , 06:20 PM

#3209

Max Cut

Guest

Posts: n/a

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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn

Numbers on this?

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07-19-2014 , 10:53 PM

#3210

Buster123

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 46

FWIW...

I just tried to register on Intertops... got as far as the sign up process and then received an automated message saying that my account was "disabled".

Just a few mins later received an email from Intertops saying "Welcome to the site...blah, blah..."

Contacted the online help option and was told that "we are currently not accepting new US Players at this time."

Gave it a try and fell flat... sigh...

On a side note... I'm located in the SCAL area.... seem like the only options to play online are Merge/Carbon, WPN/BlackChip, and Bovada...

Am I missing anything?

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07-20-2014 , 12:26 AM

#3211

BigBadBabar

California Elephant

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 21,553

Intertops allows new USA players via invite only, so you'd have to do the registration process after getting an invite from someone who has them. Merge, WPN, and Bovada are the other bigger networks, and all allow California players. There are a couple smaller networks too, like the Equity network, and Seals with Clubs (a Bitcoin site) which should also be California-friendly

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07-20-2014 , 03:14 PM

#3212

Mindgame247

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 105

Anyone have info/opinions on the Chico network? I see it has the 3rd highest traffic for US sites according to pokerscout but I don't think i've read anything about it on 2+2 or met anyone who's played there.

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07-20-2014 , 04:07 PM

#3213

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 56,895

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Originally Posted by Mindgame247

I don't think i've read anything about it on 2+2

I guess you don't read this forum much, then. A search of this forum should find you plenty of results for Chico and some of its skins like BetOnline and PayNoRake.

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07-22-2014 , 07:06 AM

#3214

bigjohna

newbie

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 28

LOOKING FOR ASITE THAT IS HONEST LIVE IN IOWA AND PAYOUTS ARE REASONABLE PLAN PLANING 05/10 AND 25/50 USE TOPLAY POKER STARS TILL BLACK FRI DO ANY GUYS KNOW ASITE THAT IS HONEST REGARDS

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07-22-2014 , 07:18 AM

#3215

DreamChaserz

banned

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 42

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Originally Posted by bigjohna

LOOKING FOR ASITE THAT IS HONEST LIVE IN IOWA AND PAYOUTS ARE REASONABLE PLAN PLANING 05/10 AND 25/50 USE TOPLAY POKER STARS TILL BLACK FRI DO ANY GUYS KNOW ASITE THAT IS HONEST REGARDS

Bovada or ACR (Americas Cardroom)

There is also SealsWithClubs if interested in bitcoins.

These three rooms have a good history of cashing out and players seeing their money, more info on the rooms all through this thread I see though.

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07-22-2014 , 10:46 AM

#3216

p2 dog, p2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7,536

WPN is th best place for sng grinders. By far the best incentives and promos, they just beefed up their SNG leader board, it is a weekly promotion with some attractive payouts. Come one, come all. 6 max DONs are the overwhelming favorite game but other games run, we need to get other games running more frequently

https://www.americascardroom.eu/rake...d-crush-poker/

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07-22-2014 , 01:07 PM

#3217

EvilGreebo

banned

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,526

WPN should have BetCoin added as a valid site - and all US can play there.

-- A Marylander

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07-22-2014 , 01:19 PM

#3218

p2 dog, p2

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 7,536

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

WPN should have BetCoin added as a valid site - and all US can play there.

-- A Marylander

im not sure of specifics but WPN does allow betcoin now. there are an influx of new players at WPn and they all have "bc_" and then their player name, indicating they are at betcoin

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07-22-2014 , 01:22 PM

#3219

EvilGreebo

banned

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,526

That's my point. The OP needs updating.

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07-22-2014 , 02:06 PM

#3220

DreamChaserz

banned

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 42

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

That's my point. The OP needs updating.

They need to add cash games to the wpn traffic.

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07-22-2014 , 03:13 PM

#3221

EvilGreebo

banned

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 3,526

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Originally Posted by DreamChaserz

They need to add cash games to the wpn traffic.

Well, I agree, and I'd like them to, but US players:
1) Can still play tournaments on WPN
2) Can play cash games for btc only on Betcoin

So the OP IMO still needs an update

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07-22-2014 , 04:44 PM

#3222

DreamChaserz

banned

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 42

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

Well, I agree, and I'd like them to, but US players:
1) Can still play tournaments on WPN
2) Can play cash games for btc only on Betcoin

So the OP IMO still needs an update

Yeah I'm with you on adding it to the OP. But cash game traffic on betcoin is super super slow, might get a couple of players in the micro stakes a few times a day, I mad the top 50 in their cash game promo playing one session that was 15 minutes long.

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07-22-2014 , 07:10 PM

#3223

DrDanimal

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,502

Someone should really update the OP.

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07-22-2014 , 07:26 PM

#3224

Mike Haven

Moderotor of Moderots

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 14,546

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

WPN should have BetCoin added as a valid site - and all US can play there.

-- A Marylander

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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2

im not sure of specifics but WPN does allow betcoin now. there are an influx of new players at WPn and they all have "bc_" and then their player name, indicating they are at betcoin

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

That's my point. The OP needs updating.

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Originally Posted by DreamChaserz

They need to add cash games to the wpn traffic.

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Originally Posted by EvilGreebo

Well, I agree, and I'd like them to, but US players:
1) Can still play tournaments on WPN
2) Can play cash games for btc only on Betcoin

So the OP IMO still needs an update

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Originally Posted by DreamChaserz

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Originally Posted by DrDanimal

Someone should really update the OP.

With what new information?