Sup Bros,

I live in NJ and just started to play on 888. Is there still a rakeback/vip tier program where you can cash in points earned from rake? Whenever I go to the my rewards page I have points from previous play(from years ago) but it just stays the same amount and never increases.

Thanks.

Where can people from NYC and/or NY state play?
I think GP went belly up today.

p.s. No WPN please.

They are back up and running. Maybe wait a little bit before spreading misinformation.

Coinpoker is an option

PokerstarsNJ too

^^ No PokerstarsNJ,
"We are licensed in New Jersey through our partner, Resorts Digital Gaming LLC, allowing players to take part in our online games when they are physically located in the state of New Jersey."

I like GP and was hoping what i said isn't true and i see that they're back up. But with their subforum here being deleted a few days ago and today's outtage and what happened to some sites in the past you'd think the worst.

I used to play online allot-paradise poker, pokerstars..until of course new york decided you cant play.

here it is almost 20 years later and im just so disgusted that I STILL cant play. Is there anyway around it? VPN? even so , the creditcards and bankcards are listed with a new york address and Ive had problems before trying to get around things. Just wondering if there a way. please save me any speeches, I dont care. Its absurd, cross this state line you can play cross this one you cant. F'en had it.

Also, i joined global poker a few years ago just screwing off. Now ive been thinking about playing seriously but ive screwed myself on any sign on bonus and deposit match. ive tried VPN to set up a new account but it still tells me to "sign in using your google account". Im assuming it has something to do with cookies i have not erases, right?

FYP. Sites like Paradise and Poker Stars left because of federal regulation.

I make this point because I believe you continue to have options like Global, BetOnline, and WPN. But I know some sites like Bovada/Ignition have NY on their restricted list. I could be out of date on which sites allow NYers now.

If you mean sites that aren't taking players from the US, this is a bad idea, but it sounds like you mean sites that are accepting US players, but not those from NY. If you mean regulated sites in states like NJ, I think this would also be a bad idea. I say that because these are regulated sites that put their licenses at risk if they don't properly enforce restrictions, so I expect your bankroll would very much be at risk if you were to be caught at it one day, and because they are actively enforcing the rules, there's a good chance you will be caught eventually. And the other issue is that if there are players who have found ways around the restrictions, they're unlikely to share their info with a stranger, especially on a public forum.

Also not a great idea, because you're looking to defraud the site, and they're not going to take kindly to it if they find out. Doesn't seem worth the risk of losing your bankroll for a deposit bonus. I don't know if affiliates work with Global, but if they do, you might want to see if any of them can retag your account. Alternatively, reach out to the site and see if they can do anything for you. Not sure if either will work, but I'd do that before risking future funds seizure.

Don't ever use VPN, RTA or any other software to bypass any site's TOS.

If i were you and all things considered, i'd only play at Global. It's a browser based software but beats all other rooms currently serving the north American market when it comes to integrity. No huds allowed and only players from US & Canada can play. They have daily rakeback as of late, free daily & weekly tournaments and they give away small daily cash ($0.25-$1.00 adding up to $3.10 weekly). Plenty of scheduled & gtd. tournaments with no later than one hour late reg., and cash games running all the time.

The term "deposit" doesn't apply on Global as they are a Sweepstakes site, hence why they can operate legally in the US. You purchase Gold Coins which is playmoney, and receive equivalent or more free Sweeps Coins which is real money Dollar to Dollar when you "redeem prize" (withdraw).

https://globalpoker.com/faqs/

your right. i dont want to be part of that horror story I read about people losing all their money. I just didnt know if there was a known work around I didnt know about which isnt generally advertised but available in forums. if there are good work arounds its by people with advanced skills in IT and yes its nothing they will share once they do that its no longer a work around.

back when i was playing there wasnt rackback which i dont even know what that is, or what all this affiliate stuff is?

There is no affiliate thing on Global. What you see is what you get.

What i omitted above is that you can mail an envelope with a card in it with some text hand written and receive $5 in sweepstakes per enveople with no limitation and as long as you do the play through that site requires you can then redeem them as prizes.

https://globalpoker.com/docs/gp-sweeps-rules-5.0.pdf

Apps and private sites, that's the best option. Bovada has zero security, WPN has lots of bots, BOL has silly rake structure and zero RB program.

Best option for who?
That dude doesn't know what rakeback or affiliate is and you're advising him to use apps and private sites.

Famous pros literally just posted again about being cheated on the apps lol ... if you play on pokerbros you deserve to be fleeced lols

The only site that has ever had any issue with potential colliders or bots is bovada, in my 3xperience. I posted a screenshot of an actual bot running WITH the table and hand ID number. Bovada told mey eyes were lying and there were no bots on the site.

I have plenty of good experiences dealing with security with several apps.

"colliders" eh ?

Again if you play on apps you deserve to be fleeced ... lols

Ooh, a typo...you got him good there!

It's so much more convincing when you repeat it.

Nope.

You could argue that someone should be prepared for it, or expect it, but that doesn't mean they deserve it. Online poker has always been, and will always be, a risk/reward balancing act. You could get screwed and/or cheated on any online site. Obviously some are higher risk than others, and I'd agree that apps are at the higher end of risk, at least for most of us who aren't well-connected and/or understand the system well. But if someone finds it profitable enough to be worth the risk, I'm not going to fault them for playing on an app. To suggest they deserve to be fleeced for doing so is rather silly.

Did you miss the last decade ? No your chance of being fleeced / cheated is not the same on apps as on sites like Bovada / WPN / Global

So yes you do indeed deserve what you get if you play on apps ... the history documented of the last decade proves this

Obviously some are higher risk than others, and I'd agree that apps are at the higher end of risk, at least for most of us who aren't well-connected and/or understand the system well. But if someone finds it profitable enough to be worth the risk, I'm not going to fault them for playing on an app. To suggest they deserve to be fleeced for doing so is rather silly


The problem is that most players cannot evaluate risk at most they can have this primitive reasoning which won't take them far.

From my experience (and of dozens of players I know) players should understand apps are a goldmine for affiliates and club owners
the protection is quite low and the risk is very high. You might find some interesting niches if you have experience and connect yourself with the right people.
In general, sites are the best option.
Even in cases of geo-restrictions, there are much better options mainly for Professional(Semi) players.

ding ding ding ... correct

Any help is much appreciated.

Did you miss the previous day, when I said exactly that in the post you're replying to?


Nope. They should be prepared for it, they should factor it in as a cost of doing business, but they don't deserve it.

The reason I take issue with your stance is twofold:

1) I'm not trying to nitpick over whether it's more accurate to say they shouldn't complain about it because they knew it might happen, or they deserve it. What's important to me is what it implies about the other side of the equation. If they deserve it, is it no big deal that someone scammed them? I don't agree with letting the scammers off the hook even the tiniest bit just because their victims "should have known". Even if that's not what you're implying, it's still an undertone when you blame the victim.

2) There are lots of people who have no idea about the scamming issue on apps, or how prevalent it might be. Should they have done their research? Sure. When we say they deserve it, though, does that imply no one should help them? I think to some, it might.

I mean I have routinely been in this thread to warn people that don't understand how high their chance of being screwed is so no I wasn't implying (1) in any form or fashion lol ...

Sorry I should have been so combative bc we are on the same side, I hate the scammers just as much !

To be clear, I wasn't thinking you were necessarily implying that, just that it's a message that could be taken from a hardline stance. I agree with your general message that there's a lot of risk with the apps. And no worries, I was being fairly argumentative myself.

Hi,

I'm getting ready to start playing again soon and am setting up accounts from AZ.

1. "Iggy" and Bovada currently look like the best/safest places to start. Any probs to/from Arizona? Am I needing an address and/or bill to verify? Or?

2. Are money transfers to/from quick, stable, reliable?

3. Is the money path still: Bank card to eWallet card to casino, and reverse?

Or: Bank card to Crypto exchange to eWallet card to casino and reverse, if using crypto?

Thanks and good cards to ya...

Ignition and Bovada are the same place different package. It's not licensed in the USA. Think they have a Costa Rica License and they've been running since 2012 or 2013(before then but as long as I've known them up and running) You only need to verify your own personal information and be in an American State they accept. Not many they do not.

Transfers to and from have been fairly easy for me. I get the feeling they hire a bunch of Spanish speakers and I ran into an incident once but so long as you get your Bitcoin address in there clear, you should be gucci. You have to use a wallet like blockchain between your wallet and say coinbase or cash app/or whatever method you choose. There are fees all over and it's a bit of a headache but you can probably process a transaction in a few hours. I have withdrawn money and deposited money multiple times with no issue.

ACR was without any issues at all but they're worldwide so your competition is tougher but I think I see where the future of on-poker is going for those states that can't play. ACR has on average 5000/10000 users. I don't see the same traffic elsewhere. I've easily deposited and withdrawn money.

If you want any help getting promos DM me or find a professional sponsor. Use a Bonus Code for either site don't get ripped off. It will help mitigate the transfers.

Global Poker actually accepted by Credit Card. I have not really bothered to go deep into the site and whether or not you can withdraw from it. A lot of people say it's quite safe.

All this being said people are going whoa, can I trust these sites. Could we trust Full Tilt Poker? I wouldn't leave chunks of money on there for long periods of time if they're not licensed in a State by our own Country's Regulations.

Bet OnLine I have withdrawn from and it's another option but a bit small in comparison with the others.