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Where Can US Players Play? Where Can US Players Play?

08-17-2011 , 09:34 PM
I have made close to $600 this month on Minted. I barely put in any volume but I know you could easily make 1k a month if you put in the time. The tourneys are pretty soft and I know I could make 1k a month if I played just tourneys alone. Just don't have time to put in the volume right at the moment.
08-17-2011 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jamest
Hey Tilt, yes i do agree with everything you said. Yes Bodog isn't good because there is no rakeback and the 4 table max limit. But to be honest, if one cannot play on merge network and just have minted poker as an option, that is really bad.

When pokerstars is not playable, online poker is pretty much done.
-Players do fine on Bodog, I know some players who do just fine there, they have some nice games once in a while, their SNGs are picking up as well.

-Should have made your Merge name before June 1st...

-False, Stars might be excellent but you can't eliminate online poker just because Stars is out of the question for US players. Like many posters have suggested, play multiple networks, it adds up.
08-18-2011 , 12:04 AM
The fact that Bodog and Minteds games are so ****ing soft should make up for the lack of volume you can get (higher win rate).

Not to come off as arrogant but I could probably bang out 1k a month playing 10/20NL on Minted alone.
08-18-2011 , 03:27 AM
for American players, where should we go in terms of speed of play and smoothness of software. i always preferred tilt because of the speed = more hands. i am considering a site, and i know there are still several choices for US players. time efficiency is very important as i like to play at min 4 tables at a time.
08-18-2011 , 03:45 AM
I try to download Bodog and my download keeps getting "interrupted." Anyone else with this issue? Really frustrating.
08-18-2011 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Turb0Licious
-Players do fine on Bodog, I know some players who do just fine there, they have some nice games once in a while, their SNGs are picking up as well.

-Should have made your Merge name before June 1st...

-False, Stars might be excellent but you can't eliminate online poker just because Stars is out of the question for US players. Like many posters have suggested, play multiple networks, it adds up.
one of my buddy has 8 diff accounts all BANKING it.. treat it as if its your savings

simple as that
08-18-2011 , 04:48 AM
I like Bodog but I casually play and like to sportsbet.
08-18-2011 , 01:29 PM
How much are you guys depositing on these sites though? I mean if a big name like full tilt turned out to not be trustworthy, how can you guys honestly be confident in these random small sites?
08-18-2011 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Romerowned
How much are you guys depositing on these sites though? I mean if a big name like full tilt turned out to not be trustworthy, how can you guys honestly be confident in these random small sites?
There is obvioulsy risk involved. At the same time a lot of players have decided it's worth the risk to play the game they love, to earn a living, or to supplement an income.

If you are considering playing, do your research on the sites available. No matter which site you choose, keep the minimum amount online that is necessary to play the stakes you play. In fact, I am underolled on the sites I play, but I have a separate Bank Account for my Bank Roll. I would much rather prefer to have to make an extra deposit, then have my whole Bank Roll tied up.

In the end, nobody knows what's going to happen. The best we can do is to take certain precautions to limit the amount of risk we're taking.

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Originally Posted by legal eyezit
for American players, where should we go in terms of speed of play and smoothness of software. i always preferred tilt because of the speed = more hands. i am considering a site, and i know there are still several choices for US players. time efficiency is very important as i like to play at min 4 tables at a time.
Honestly, your not going to find software that is close to Tilt, IMO.

I think Merge(Black Chip, RPM, Lock, Carbon) have the best software, but they are currently not accepting US players.

I think the next best would probably be Everleaf Software(Minted Poker and RaiseAndFold). They are not comparable to Tilt, but again nothing in the current US market is. Also, they have a new Poker Client planned to be released within the next month or two. Currently you can only play a maximum of 8 tables on Minted/RaiseAndFold, but that is one of the many changes the new software is supposed to change.

Some may like Cake's software better than Everleaf, but I'm not one of them.

Again, your not going to find anything close to Tilt, especially with Merge not accepting US players.

Last edited by TiltTheTilt; 08-18-2011 at 03:14 PM.
08-18-2011 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LivinOnSkill
one of my buddy has 8 diff accounts all BANKING it.. treat it as if its your savings

simple as that
Your buddy has 8 different accounts? Well that certanily isn't right now is it...
08-18-2011 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Turb0Licious
Your buddy has 8 different accounts? Well that certanily isn't right now is it...
Its ok Turbo, hes treating it like his savings.
08-18-2011 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TiltTheTilt
There is obvioulsy risk involved. At the same time a lot of players have decided it's worth the risk to play the game they love, to earn a living, or to supplement an income.

If you are considering playing, do your research on the sites available. No matter which site you choose, keep the minimum amount online that is necessary to play the stakes you play. In fact, I am underolled on the sites I play, but I have a separate Bank Account for my Bank Roll. I would much rather prefer to have to make an extra deposit, then have my whole Bank Roll tied up.

In the end, nobody knows what's going to happen. The best we can do is to take certain precautions to limit the amount of risk we're taking.
Being underolled is definitely the safe move. I'm guessing you cash out your profts almost immediately as well. The thing is, when you hit downswings, you'll need to keep refunding your account. Do most sites not charge a deposit fee? Bodog is the only site I've played since black friday, and the deposit fee was quite high.
08-18-2011 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Romerowned
Being underolled is definitely the safe move. I'm guessing you cash out your profts almost immediately as well. The thing is, when you hit downswings, you'll need to keep refunding your account. Do most sites not charge a deposit fee? Bodog is the only site I've played since black friday, and the deposit fee was quite high.
You sometimes have to pay the cost of WU at some of the sites, but you can usually get a 50% off coupon that brings the cost down to $6 so it's not bad at all and I've been lucky not to have hit many downswings that have been bad enough to make me have to deposit often(waiting for doomswitch now )

I do play underolled compared to conventional BR management but it's no so much that I have to reload very often. When I do, I try to get a reload bonus at the same time which is always another plus to that strategy.

Also, with sites that offer Rakeback even when you hit a downswing then you should be getting RakeBack soon that will replenish your account . Since I play multiple Networks I can usually make a transfer from one site to another also, and depending on which sites they are can even get a VIG sometimes
08-19-2011 , 11:28 AM
What is the best online poker site for USA players that is easy to deposit and cashout/withdrawl?
08-19-2011 , 11:41 AM
Bodog. You can withdraw and get a check within 5 days. Decent player pool considering the circumstances.
08-19-2011 , 11:53 AM
Take a look at the thread below. The last few pages should give you a pretty good over view of the sites.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28.../index100.html

Also below is a post I made in that thread giving a little information on each of the sites. The information should be basically the same, but there may be a few minor differences since this was posted about a month ago:

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Everleaf(Minted Poker, RaiseandFold,etc...)- Offers fast Western Union Cashouts. I've made multiple Cashouts by Western Union since Black Friday and have received in 2-3 days every time. They offer 40% RB, Deposit Bonuses, RakeChases(through the right affiliates), and the other 'skin' promotions (Example: Minted poker offers various promotions each month). Minted Poker has a sponsored thread on 2p2 that Minted Neil(Minted Poker rep) posts on to answer questions and resolve any issues. RaiseandFold owner also posts on 2p2 and is always available to answer questions and take suggestion as is Neil. Everleaf Network was made up of 3 separate Networks but recently they combined them to increase traffic accross all skins. The traffic is decent and improving. The software is playable and HUD's are allowed, though it has a few issues, but they will be releasing a new Poker Client in approximately 2 months.

Yatahay (True Poker, Doyles Room, etc...)-Offers fast cashouts. I've requested multiple Paper Checks since Black Friday and I've received all of them in under 2 weeks. For a paper check that is pretty quick. They offer 27% RB, First Deposit Bonus and frequently run large Rake Races Network Wide. They have large Guaranteed Tournaments(Sat. 7.5K, Sunday 15K and a 3.5K daily) on the weekends for the size of the Network that frequently have Overlay and have plenty of Satellites running to them. True Poker has a site Rep on 2p2 and a sponsored forum to help answer questions. The Traffic is low and has been up and down recently. They had gained a lot of Traffic but lost some when they released a new Poker Client and initially had some issues with it. The software still has some issues, but all US facing sites do currently, IMO. PT3 is compatible with the new Poker client.

Bodog- Offers fast Cashouts also. I've not requested on from Bodog since Black Friday but all accounts point to very fast Cashouts. They do NOT have RB available. THey have a VIP system which does not offer much value, IMO. They also limit the amount of tables that you can play at one time to 4! The software is pretty unique and it seems to get mixed reviews. I've not had issues on it personally, but have only played a very small volume on Bodog.

My final suggestion would be to play on multiple Networks to help get your volume in. This may mean playing 3 tables on Minted Poker, 3 tables on Yatahay, and 4 tables on Bodog(just an example). This will allow you to take advantage of the promotions that may be going on at different Networks, table select, and still receive fast Cashouts. I would personally avoid the Cake skin because of their shady history that continues(see sticky at top of Internet Poker Forum where they are not paying a player that won 50-60K). They have had a lot of trouble paying even non-US players, with MoneyBookers taking multiple weeks on average. If you are wanting to play on Cake, I would recommend a skin like Intertops that processes their own Cahsouts and are much faster then Cake reportedly.

NOTE: I left out Merge because they are currently NOT accepting new US players! There are currently rumors that they will start accepting US players very soon and I've heard that it will be next week.This isn't the first time these rumors have surfaced and they have been incorrect in the past.
08-19-2011 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Eman6969
Bodog. You can withdraw and get a check within 5 days. Decent player pool considering the circumstances.
High rake
No rakeback
Limited to 4 tables

Other than that its a decent site
08-19-2011 , 12:08 PM
What about other than Bodog?
08-19-2011 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GotU7785
What about other than Bodog?
Ay don't be ungrateful.
08-19-2011 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GotU7785
What about other than Bodog?
Try minted poker as mentioned above. It has the best withdrawal option for USA players at this moment.
08-19-2011 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GotU7785
What about other than Bodog?
Minted Poker or RaiseandFold on Everleaf, True Poker on Yatahay, and Intertops on Cake, IMO.

They all offer Rakeback and deposit bonuses.

There is a pretty good descripton of Everleaf and Yatahay Networks above. I would stick to Intertops if I decided to play on Cake. Cake cashouts are extremely slow but Intertops processes their own Cashouts and are much faster.
08-19-2011 , 05:08 PM
It also depends on what state your in. States like New York, New Jersey, Washington, Maryland, and Kentucky are blocked from signing up from some of the sites so you may not have as many options
08-19-2011 , 06:04 PM
im on minted and am very happy with it. fast deposit, insanely fast withdrawal (48 hours), 40%rakeback. The traffic can be frustrating, since I was a SNG grinder on stars before black friday, but I re adjusted to cash games, and the traffic for cash games like .25/.50 is decent enough. The customer service is also the best ive seen. There are some MTT's, mostly rebuys because of the low traffic, but have alot of fish. I took one down a week into playing on the site.

I wud heavily suggest minted. Merge has alot of issues with their cashouts, and dont seem particurly stable long term in my opinion. Plus as a prior poster said, they have a few states banned now, including my home state of NY. Minted is reliable, efficient, and is the best option until we get regulation here in America.
08-19-2011 , 11:14 PM
when the **** we gon get regulation?
08-19-2011 , 11:19 PM
What is the best way to get rakeback from Minted Poker?

      
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