Anybody who had a cash account on stars who has cashed out since BF can still log on and view cash and tourneys. Its off of there stars.eu site.

If you previously had an account on PokerStars.com, you should still be able to log in and observe the tables. If you are receiving an update error, or don't have a current copy of the software, you can download it as quoted here...

EDIT: I just noticed that you don't even have to log in to rail, but you will have to if you want to search for a particular player.
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I've been away from online poker ever since Black Friday. Watching WSOP recently got me feening for some online poker again. I trying to get an understanding of the different networks. From what I understand Cake Poker is okay for U.S. players along with RPM, Lock, and Balck chip? How do I find out what the merge network sites are? What sites are U.S. 2+2ers playing on and trust? I currently only have access to my playersonly account (which i played on today).

Read the last few pages of this thread.

Same here and I'm really starting to miss it...I will read the last few pages and go from there.

Once you read the last few pages you should have a good understanding of the skins on the Network. Remember though that Merge is currently not accepting US players, though that is rumored to change very shortly.

There are definitely still options available for US player and you should get a good understanding by reading through the last few pages. Once you do that, if you still have specific questions you can most likely get the information here on 2p2.

are cashouts on minted done via check? it's kinda hard to tell from their software/site

Minted Poker does Cashouts by Western Union and by Bank Wire. WU is the best option as it is free and very very quick.

thansk very much. and this isn't limited to only what you deposit right? you can withdraw 1,000 via wu even if you only deposited 500 on it?

You can Cashout up to 1K a week by Western Union if you deposit by WU.

http://www.mergegaming.com/partners.html

So many mixed feelings going back on there. Come back stars come back.

Hello everyone, I'm planning to go overseas for a lengthy amount of time and I'm a B&M player. I haven't played online since the party poker days and after UIGEA, I tried to open an account on Fulltilt and found it was a pain in the ass, so I just gave up since I live near Commerce in LA and play there all the time.

Here's my question, if I open a moneybookers account overseas and fund it with my US bank account, can I open an account on Pokerstars and play online? Isn't this essentially what Phil Galfond is doing in Canada? Thanks for your help

How are the games on cake?

Well i have a tough time believing someone can make even $500 at minted poker when the table volume is so poor and i don't even see more than 2 tables running of 100NL running. And basically there is just 1 or 2 tables max of 4NL and 10NL. How can anyone make any money playing that? I do not doubt you guys for having no problems cashing out. But theres like no money to made here unless you play microlimits and i would assume a recreationally player wouldn't like minted to be honest when they look at how few tables and games there are here.


Someone mentioned there is 10 tables of 50NL at peak time but everytime i opened minted poker, i see at most 2 tables. And i used 50NL as an example because that is the lowest i can go without going to microlimits. There is no limit holdem games at all and the only PLO games that run are 2 tables of 6 max and its 10NL...


What i meant to say was how can anyone win much money on this site when there is basically NO VOLUME at minted poker. I mean, do i have to download everleaf poker skin? Because i certainly do not see volume increase at all and many of you said the skins put all the player pool together.


Where do you guys even see 10 tables of 50NL running? Are you including those tables with 4 player max? How can anyone make money on this site when there is such poor volume. Even cake poker has 3x the amount of games here and have sngs running whereas minted/everleaf have no sngs run besides .10 ones.

Right now there are 7 FULL 6max tables of NL50, 6 Tables of 6max NL100 with either 5 or 6 players playing, a full 6max NL200, full 6max of NL400. Granted these are both USD and Euro tables but you can see that there is plenty of tables to make a Cashout. I'm not sure about you but the traffic listed is easily enough to make a Cashout. If a player wins just 5 buy-ins at NL200 that is a max Cashout by WU.

There is also currently 5 players at a 6max PLO 1/2 table, and 4 players at a PLO 2/4 game. There is also a couple players at .50/1 PLO

This also doesn't include 4max tables and the CAP tables which seem to be popular on Everleaf.

Many players have cashed out and I have personally cashed out multiple times. Believe what you will but many players, including myself, have made multiple Cashouts from Everleaf skins. Traffic isn't the greatest and in fact is kinda low, but to question that players are even making Cashouts because there is supposedly not enough action is an absurd claim.

TiltThetilt, i never said i didn't believe many players cashed out. I know from reading this thread that mintedpoker/everleaf has NO CASHOUT PROBLEMS AT ALL which is great. I would probably say minted/everleaf is probably the best site for usa players in terms of cashing out funds.


What i was talking about is how much are you guys evening cashing out? I mean if you are cashing out $100 there and $200 there, i see no problem but there is just not enough games going on to make much money. The thing is i have a hard time believing anyone can even MAKE $1000 per month playing on minted/everleaf because there is just not enough player/tables on this site. But the thing is i just feel like minted/everleaf is pretty useless for a usa player even for a recreationally player unless he enjoys microstakes.


I assume people here who play on minted don't even deposit more than $300 so basically there is no money to be won here as there isn't much money in mintedpoker/everleaf. As bad as cake poker is in terms of cashout and its rep, i see tons of tables of 50NL, 100NL and 200NL and 400NL. I even see some players sitting at 1000NL.


I mean 1 table of 6max NL200 is really poor. Even bodog where i play at has much much better volume than minted and i consider bodog to not even have that good volume.

Why would you assume everyone plays NL4 and NL10? What if someone plays NL200. You dont think someone can make 2 or 3 buyins in an infinite time frame even if its just playing one or two tables? What if someone plays NL1000 HU and finds one table and wins 1/2 a buyin, thats not possible?

Because i recalled whenever i opened up the mintedpoker client, the only full ring table that i see filled is 4NL and 10NL.


Bodog always has multiple 200NL, 400NL and 600NL running. Minted poker probably has 2 max and most of these tables are probably 2-3 handed.

Theres currently 717 players at minted. Even bodog has about 1300 players now and it feels like bodog has 5x the amount of players at the tables to be honest.

lol.

its cool man, more euro fish for the rest of us.

Your exact quote is below:

I took that as you meant that players couldn't make $500 on Minted Poker or Everleaf since that's basically what you say.

I guess you are only meaning FR. Admittedly there aren't a lot of FR tables, but not everyone plays FR exclusively.

I've made multiple Max WU Cashouts ($1,000) or close to Max Cashouts since BF. There are plenty of tables as I just pointed out. Sure, there aren't 20 tables of FR at every stake, but that's not needed for a lot of players. A lot of players do not mind playing 6max, 4max, or HU and to be honest, that's where a lot of the money is when you find a loose rec player.

You are claiming there isn't enough tables but in the same post your comparing it to a site that has a 4 table max.

As I've recommended multiple times, for most players in the US it's going to be necessary, or at the very least beneficial to play on multiple Networks.

Hey tiltthetilt, yea my wording was probably not good but i assume you know what i meant when i said that.

Its just the volume and number of players there is just so poor with no traffic. Like if you are a 100NL regular on stars for example and say you make 2k per month before rakeback. I have a hard time seeing this person can make even 1/3rd the amount on minted b/c of the few traffic there.

The best site for any usa player now is Merge Network and then Bodog is 2nd. And that is just real bad because when i play on bodog, i wanted to find another site because of how horrible the traffic there is. And then i find out bodog is 2nd in terms of traffic

Well, I agree that traffic isn't the greatest on any site right now. That being said, I think it's still best to multi-Network and play on multiple sites.

I think you may be missing just a few things. While Merge and Bodog are the number 1 and number 2 sites, a lot of players are also looking at other Networks and it would be misleading to suggest there isn't enough traffic to result in a $500 Cashout.

Merge not accepting US players some are looking at alternatives. Even players with Merge accounts may also be looking at alternatives because of the slow Cashouts and they may not have the ability to wait for their Cashouts.

Bodog may not appeal to all players because they do not offer RakeBack. Those that do sign up, may still be looking at another Network since there is a 4 table max.

A lot of players are not willing to play on Cake because of their past practices.

That leaves Everleaf and Minted Poker. You should also consider that Merge and Cake do not(in Merge's case will not in future) accept players from New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Washington, and in Cake's case Kentucky.

If you add all that up, some players are left with only a few options and Minted Poker/Raise and Fold/Poker4Ever/etc.... offers them a very very nice option to be able to play online. With that said players should know there is enough action to make max WU Cashouts without much problem.

Unfortunately, the simple fact is that we do not have a single room that 90% of players are going to be able to flock to. In fact, we don't even have a top 2 that is currently feasible for the majority of players and that is part of the problem. Hopefully in the future things change or a new site enters that will accept all players and give us all the things we expect in a Poker Site, but don't hold your breathe

Hey Tilt, yes i do agree with everything you said. Yes Bodog isn't good because there is no rakeback and the 4 table max limit. But to be honest, if one cannot play on merge network and just have minted poker as an option, that is really bad.

When pokerstars is not playable, online poker is pretty much done.