WTF Ongame?? C'mon.. We don't want to move to Stars

This is probably def true, but I do see a big increase in regs and 10 and 20 even over the past few months.

looking for a serious ongame SKIn, not betfair please - its the titanic of ongame... ty !

Did you have same issue? Alot of guys on the bwin chat did and some got their money back, others didn't. I has been 4 hours and nothing returned yet to me. Let me know if you had same issue?

betsafe or betsson (same company), very nice promotions etc.
Europoker.net could also be worth a look

Apart from the freezing missing $25 from my account that I already posted about. I emailed bwin support for feedback regarding a deposit bonus I made. If anyone has insight or know the answer (and I hope such a disparity between figures can't be chalked up to "essence") please let me know. This is what I wrote support:

One additional comment. Since depositing and getting the reload bonus of $152, I have accumulated exactly 300 poker points (1 $20 was released, and I am halfway through clearing the second). In that time, I have played 10185 hands at 10nl and have been raked $93.11. According to the bonus terms I get 10 pp for every $1 of rake. As such I should have accumulated 930 pp to this moment since my redeposit and cleared a large chunk of my bonus. So why then does bwin have me only accruing 300 pp? This seems way off?

Got the funds back, (don't know where they disappeared to) but am still very curios about this bonus clearing rate?

IF the terms weren't so clear 10pp/1 raked dollar, then I would understand. But don't think this has to do with essence. Anyone have any idea?

oh thats funny...
the bonus clearing rate (!) is 10 pp per 1$!
You will get 3,4 (or 3,6 not sure) PP per 1$ Rake so your bonus is roughly ~35% rb (not counting in essence side effects which can lower your personal rake)

Bet 24

Yea, figured it out and it is more like 22% with essence. Very slow to clear.

betfair xx

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146 km4591 Greece 88.35 7.5
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in before technicals issues this skin sucks!!!

Hey don't understand your comment? Is this worth pursuing. Did you have to sign up through an affiliate or is anyone on the site eligible? Is it legit?

the sng leaderboard never works exactly the last week Leaderboard is a joke no payout and no finally Ranking. Lol betfail

I can´t log in at betfair. this always happen, when I wanna have a morning session. so annoying.

this update seem to be a biger thing. just went on their site, and it looks like, they finally decide to renew their software.