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03-01-2010 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziki6368
Jorj, what do you think is the difference between the 87s and the lower 44 and 22's hyperturbos?
The buy-in ?
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03-01-2010 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziki6368
Jorj, what do you think is the difference between the 87s and the lower 44 and 22's hyperturbos?
Uhhh the players are worse in the 44s and 22s in general. Not really sure what you're asking. More mistakes are made at lower buyins.
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03-01-2010 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by The Lipo Fund
jorj i won the $204 hyper turbo

am i cut out for grinding 86s?
yes go for it imo!

congrats on the win. i think u sucked out on me but i don't remember for sure.
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03-01-2010 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Redgrape
Jorj,

Clearly you play a **** load of tables and play them at a high level of focus. What steps do you take to maintain that high level of focus before and during a session?
Nothing really, it just bores me to play less than 12 tables or so. Before a session I make sure I eat something with substance so I don't get hungry in a couple hours, and make sure I have enough water nearby.
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03-01-2010 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RosieTheGreat
sorry if this has already been asked, but do you prefer the structure of the hyper turbos on stars or ftp?

(antes vs no antes)
I've never played the ones on FTP. They won't give me rakeback so f them.

As far as whether I prefer antes, I really don't care. I'd just adjust to whatever structure was being played.
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03-01-2010 , 10:34 PM
wow how ******ed is ftp for not giving u rakeback,

how come i suck so bad in these, and u run so good?

seriously though this might sound ******ed but did u ask them more then once? fwiw I emailed them about 5 times and eventually they hooked me up, maybe try pming ftpdoug
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03-02-2010 , 12:06 AM
While I know you have said that there are a lot of spots where ICM is incorrect, if a theoretical player were able to follow ICM perfectly [adjusted to players' ranges fairly well and made the correct move according to ICM for those assumptions], do you think they would be a winner? On the other hand, what if they were able to do the same but with chipEV?
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03-02-2010 , 12:51 AM
If someone followed ICM perfectly on every hand they would be a big loser at the 87s and above. I'd probably pay $3000 a day to be able to 20-table all day vs. opponents who all played for chipEV. Maybe a lot more. I'd love to try it.

Edit- Maybe I'm overstating it about ICM. Maybe just a marginal loser if they were to play ICM perfect. I doubt they could break even though. The chipEV is fun to think about. I bet George could clear 3-4 million easy this year with his volume against only that type of field.

Edit again- If everyone else was playing for chipEV, I bet you could break even at the tables if you just auto-registered for hypers all day and sat out every tournament. You could get like 6 million VPPs!

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03-02-2010 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
wow how ******ed is ftp for not giving u rakeback,

how come i suck so bad in these, and u run so good?

seriously though this might sound ******ed but did u ask them more then once? fwiw I emailed them about 5 times and eventually they hooked me up, maybe try pming ftpdoug
Eh I really just don't care enough to bother.
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03-02-2010 , 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by andyakb
While I know you have said that there are a lot of spots where ICM is incorrect, if a theoretical player were able to follow ICM perfectly [adjusted to players' ranges fairly well and made the correct move according to ICM for those assumptions], do you think they would be a winner? On the other hand, what if they were able to do the same but with chipEV?
No to both questions. Chip ev, you'd probably have about a -20% roi if I had to guess. ICM calcs are fairly useless when everyone only has a few bb.
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03-02-2010 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Sly Caveat
If someone followed ICM perfectly on every hand they would be a big loser at the 87s and above. I'd probably pay $3000 a day to be able to 20-table all day vs. opponents who all played for chipEV. Maybe a lot more. I'd love to try it.

Edit- Maybe I'm overstating it about ICM. Maybe just a marginal loser if they were to play ICM perfect. I doubt they could break even though. The chipEV is fun to think about. I bet George could clear 3-4 million easy this year with his volume against only that type of field.

Edit again- If everyone else was playing for chipEV, I bet you could break even at the tables if you just auto-registered for hypers all day and sat out every tournament. You could get like 6 million VPPs!
Yeah this pretty much sums up my thoughts. If everyone played according to chip ev, I'd think you could win at least 80% of the time if you just sat out.
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03-02-2010 , 01:35 AM
Also playing "ICM perfect" assumes that you can somehow know everyones ranges in every spot, which isn't even close to possible.
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03-02-2010 , 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Yarbles
wow how ******ed is ftp for not giving u rakeback,

how come i suck so bad in these, and u run so good?

seriously though this might sound ******ed but did u ask them more then once? fwiw I emailed them about 5 times and eventually they hooked me up, maybe try pming ftpdoug
i think FTP is the one that should be asking jorj to play on their site, not the other way
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03-02-2010 , 02:37 AM
Another thing regarding the earlier comment, people who are asking stuff like "should I follow ICM exactly?" aren't even asking the right question. To me it's pretty much the equivalent of going into a Calculus test and asking the professor "Should I follow my calculator exactly?".
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03-02-2010 , 02:42 AM
Jorj... how to win?
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03-02-2010 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by tom_dwonk
Jorj... how to win?
1) Get really good at a specific game.
2) Put in a ton of volume.
3) ??????
4) Profit.
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03-02-2010 , 02:48 AM
lol at you getting fired for stealing candy btw!

If you ever need I can hook you up and prob get you your first job at amc back!! lemme know
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03-02-2010 , 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Merc
lol at you getting fired for stealing candy btw!

If you ever need I can hook you up and prob get you your first job at amc back!! lemme know
If only you guys knew how I got fired from my second job.

It's a longer story so I'll write it either tonight when I'm done playing or tomorrow night. How's that for a tease?

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03-02-2010 , 03:57 AM
Looking forward to the job firing incident...

Q. Any general principles as to when ICM applies and when it doesn't?
Q. Do you play any other variants of poker other than NL Holdem?
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03-03-2010 , 06:24 AM
Did you play hyper-turbo 6max-60 players? What is your opinion about this sng'? Do you have any advice how to play them?
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03-03-2010 , 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Juve
Did you play hyper-turbo 6max-60 players? What is your opinion about this sng'? Do you have any advice how to play them?
Yeah I just got done playing a few actually, just screwing around mostly. Advice is to get lucky and run good.
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03-03-2010 , 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by cbeaks
Looking forward to the job firing incident...

Q. Any general principles as to when ICM applies and when it doesn't?
Q. Do you play any other variants of poker other than NL Holdem?
1) ICM always applies, the key is interpreting the results correctly.

2) Yeah I used to play tons of different games when I played in the casino. I played lots of limit holdem, stud, stud8, omaha8, triple draw, and a few other games. Pretty much I'd end up playing whichever game the worst players wanted to play.

Firing story will have to wait, I'm going to bed now.
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03-03-2010 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by George Lind III
Yeah I just got done playing a few actually, just screwing around mostly. Advice is to get lucky and run good.
What you think, is't profitable to play this sng's? I now that every sng's are profitable to play if you know how to play them, but question is, can someone play this 60 man sng's hyper turbo in long term skillful profitable or it's just get lucky and run good? What BR is enough for them in your opinion?
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03-03-2010 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Juve
What you think, is't profitable to play this sng's? I now that every sng's are profitable to play if you know how to play them, but question is, can someone play this 60 man sng's hyper turbo in long term skillful profitable or it's just get lucky and run good? What BR is enough for them in your opinion?
Yes of course there is skill in them. Bankroll I have no idea, probably a few hundred buyins at least.
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03-03-2010 , 10:03 AM
Jorj,

Have you played many of the 2k wsop steps? If so, do you think they are profitable to play? I am considering taking a shot at them but I think only a few people have even close to a significant sample size to determine if they are worth playing.

Thanks for the time and GL.
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