Yeah I guess you're probably right but I answered almost the same question in the post right above his, so I guess that's why I was confused.

I guess he was asking if they'd be more profitable than the current versions and that's hard to say. On a per-game basis maybe they wouldn't be, but overall they might be just because they might run more and at higher limits.

1) I don't remember the exact time but they run the same time every evening for an hour or 2.

2) Possibly it's enough in the 22s but I doubt you'd win in the bigger games. There's just too many other things to think about, that referring to a very basic and flawed program isn't going to make you very good at them.

Do you have any last minute thoughts before entering a major Live Tourney like you are today at the NAPT?

Locate the nearest restroom. Find a place that sells semi-healthy snack bars. Check 2p2 obv. . These are the things I'm doing right now.

As for poker related stuff, I don't really think about it until the tourney starts. Mostly I just make sure all the little things are taken care of so I can just concentrate on poker.

For some reason it smells like an old lady's perfume in here. I hope that doesn't throw me off my game. If I bust early I think I'll use that as my excuse.

Yeah I never figured out why they would purposefully pump out that smell - it smells like tacky perfume or toxic cleaning materials. It must have powerful subconscious effects though because I kept returning there.

GL @ NAPT

AA<KK for 150k pot with 10 min left in the day vs the only guy at my table who had me covered.

donkaments are fun imo

And ya I know no one asked a question but I needed to vent a little and my wife is asleep.

Found an issue with Holdem Manager with the $won in the hypers. The problem seems to occur when a tournament is won by a player winning all the chips on the table. When this occurs, despite the top 2 being paid the same prize, they are paid different amounts. Ive just manually changed a whole bunch of tournies. Has anyone noticed this before?

Also, earlier someone talked about the HEM redline graph compared to the green line graph in hypers. This line is really only relevant in cash games, the number of times that it is +EV to get it in with a worse hand 2 or 3 way in these makes the redline obsolete. The fact that yours is 15 buyins less than your $$$ over thousands of games doesnt make any sense?

Hard lines on the live tourney

Ya I noticed the thing in HEM when one person wins the hyper outright also. I don't really use HEM to track my results anyway so I don't care that much.

Also I really don't care about the red line stuff, but someone asked a question so I looked.

Yeah, I always balance my results at the end of the day with a spreadsheet and go back and adjust those numbers. I'll post in the HEM thread about it and maybe they can change it.

Why would the fact that it's +EV to get it in with a worse make the red line irrelevant? It's still going to give you an accurate assessment of how you are running compared to expectation after your chips are in the middle. In fact, you could argue that it's most relevant at the hypers because in other games style of play may influence the red line differential because of card removal effects, etc. In the hypers there is pretty much only one style of play, right? I dunno. It's at least as relevant in hypers as cash games.

George- Sorry to hear about your tourney. Take a couple of weeks off from poker. You deserve it.

Somehow I doubt that is going to happen, especially with all the Sunday $4 Mil HTs that are going to run today. We can always dream...

have u ever worked at mcdonalds?

this topic was actually discussed a lot in the MTTc thread and a few guys said the smell is so over powering because there is a sewer line er something like that right outside the casino so they basically try and mask that smell with the "nice" smell of that perfume er whatever they pump into the casino.

LOL at taking time off. You guys obviously know me better than that by now.

Regarding the red line stuff, I actually didn't even read the post by the other guy, I just saw 'red line' and kind of skimmed the rest. The whole red line phenomenon is pretty amusing to me.

Yeah I'll be grinding.

I tried to book a flight out as soon as I busted but there were no flights leaving until 9:40am Sunday. So I guess I just have to grind here and then leave late Sunday afternoon (or hopefully later if I'm still in the Sunday Mil). I'm not crazy about grinding in the hotel but the internet here seems pretty good so far and I also have my Verizon aircard. Only thing I don't have is a backup computer here...hopefully I'm fine without it for one day. *knock on wood*

Nope, jobs I've had are AMC movie theater, Fry's grocery store, Motorola, and NetPro (computer networking company). Oh and I also worked at the Super Bowl helping install the sound system for like 2 months when it was here in 1996 or so. Got to listen to Diana Ross rehearsals almost every day (she was the halftime entertainment). I still cringe to this very day when I hear Ain't No Mountain High Enough.

Its ok I already posted there about it. My understanding of the redline was that it gave you an idea of what your winnings in $$ should be based on your equity in each hand, and from it you can deduce whether you are running bad or not. The reason I say this is only truly appropriate to cash is because in cash the results of each hand directly affect $$$, whereas in a tournament they dont, and especially in a hyper tournament where the dynamics are so complicated.

Let's say you call with the worst hand in a 4 way allin for example, even if it was the right move in the tournament - I dont see how it could possibly calculate that youve made a play that would make a positive redline reflection in this instance.

Im not sure though, perhaps it is more complicated than this. I have even seen cash players who, over have a large sample, have a continuous descending redline and upward greenline. I was just surprised to hear Jorj's was as close as 15buyins over 30k games or whatever it was, maybe this is coincidence. How close are your redline and greenline?

what kind of car do you drive?

You are overthinking it. The red line isn't going to tell you if you made a correct play any more than a green line will. Both of them are just giving you results. The red line is your equity after you are all in but before the remaining cards are dealt. The green line is after the cards are dealt.
So far this year I have ran terrible and my green line is well below my red.
Last year my green line finished above my red line.

P.S. I don't want to hijack this thread so let's drop it. I just thought you had some misconceptions about it so I wanted to chime in. You can PM me if you want to discuss it further, but there are a bunch of other threads on the subject.

Agreed, may PM you after I think about it. Still not convinced that there is any real correlation though.

Back on topic - Jorj I'll second the motion for an interview with daleroxxu, his blogs are ridiculously funny and he is pretty decent at asking questions as well. Pretty sure youd enjoy it.

How long did you work there? And what did you do?

Just this year my green line has been 220 buyins above and 60 buyins below the red line at various times. That it was within 15 buyins was pure coincidence.

corvette

Worked there like 6 months or so during high school. Did concessions, box office, clean theaters, pretty much anything really. I got fired for stealing candy though.

40k games in 2010 ur a sick sick sick puppy. Are there any others doing exactly wot u do? ie hyper sats only. Or are they rather fishy still? wud seem strange that loads of others wudn't have jumped on the band wagon by now. Sorry if this Q's been asked I'm sure it probably has.

Most of time at least 5 regs in table. I miss last year's games. I'd prefer less volume and more profit, because these days hypers have much larger swings because edges are so much smaller. Kinda your fault, Jorj. (Of course I also understand why you want more games running.)