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09-23-2009 , 09:29 PM
I think that perception has a lot to do with that I'm playing every single $22 that is running and you see me at every table. Since this thread is for George it's probably something he's noticed as well. George, do you adjust play at all when you see people talking about you in chat? For me, I can't help but notice these players and take note of their game. Although it is difficult to adjust too much while playing so many tables. How much of an affect does being in every game change the way opponents play against you?
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09-23-2009 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rwesty
I think that perception has a lot to do with that I'm playing every single $22 that is running and you see me at every table. Since this thread is for George it's probably something he's noticed as well. George, do you adjust play at all when you see people talking about you in chat? For me, I can't help but notice these players and take note of their game. Although it is difficult to adjust too much while playing so many tables. How much of an affect does being in every game change the way opponents play against you?
No, I mean people talk crap about me in the chat every day. It's just a product of me being at every table I think. I don't really take special attention to people who talk about me in the chat but yeah I'm probably more likely to remember their name and how they play simply because they made their own name more memorable to me. So in that respect it is probably somewhat detrimental to them to talk crap to me in the chat.

I'm sure I get spite called more by randoms simply because I'm in every game though. Pretty much every day someone will be talking about how I'm a bot and then I'll respond to them and they'll be all shocked that I'm human. I honestly think that by chatting with people and being friendly with them that I will get spite called less than someone like poker_in_pb, who never chats with anyone and plays really slowly, and I know he doesn't do it intentionally, but he really annoys a lot of people. So I would hope that by at least attempting to be friendly instead of annoying that I would get spite called a little less. I don't know if any of this is true or not but I'm sticking with my theory.

Besides, I kind of enjoy the chatting aspect of the game, it breaks up the monotony a bit.
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09-24-2009 , 02:18 AM
If you take a bunch of midstakes cash game grinders and make them play SNG's for a while, what type of ICM mistakes do you expect them to most commonly make?
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09-24-2009 , 03:02 AM
it seemed like you played any wcoop hyperturbo, no matter what the game. were you already familiar & competent in all of these games or did you have to brush up on general strategy / equity calcs? are you going for sne this year with hyperturbo rake alone?
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09-24-2009 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by wat.
If you take a bunch of midstakes cash game grinders and make them play SNG's for a while, what type of ICM mistakes do you expect them to most commonly make?
Hmm tough question, but I would expect that they wouldn't shove wide enough at first. It's hard to say exactly what mistakes that they'd make, just that they would certainly be making a lot of them. sng strategy is probably somewhat counterintuitive to someone who is used to having every chip have the same value.
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09-24-2009 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by vetiver
it seemed like you played any wcoop hyperturbo, no matter what the game. were you already familiar & competent in all of these games or did you have to brush up on general strategy / equity calcs? are you going for sne this year with hyperturbo rake alone?
I had already played all the games except for badugi, and having played a ton of triple draw back in the day it wasn't hard to come up with a quick strategy for this game as well. The hyperturbos are more about hyperturbo strategy than they are about strategy of the actual game being played anyway. For most of the games I was pretty much guessing what the proper strategy was but I figured (or hoped) I was probably ahead of the field anyway.

I'll make elite almost exclusively on hypers. I played some regular sngs the first couple months of the year before I banished myself from them, and I also play some mtt's here and there, like I did during the wcoop.
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09-24-2009 , 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by George Lind III
I had already played all the games except for badugi, and having played a ton of triple draw back in the day it wasn't hard to come up with a quick strategy for this game as well. The hyperturbos are more about hyperturbo strategy than they are about strategy of the actual game being played anyway. For most of the games I was pretty much guessing what the proper strategy was but I figured (or hoped) I was probably ahead of the field anyway.

I'll make elite almost exclusively on hypers. I played some regular sngs the first couple months of the year before I banished myself from them, and I also play some mtt's here and there, like I did during the wcoop.
cool... i kind of figured the primary concern was having hyperturbo icm strat down pat (which you obv do) but for limit games in particular i imagine you must need some familiarity with the games.

congrats on your success, thanks for this well.
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09-24-2009 , 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by George Lind III
I had already played all the games except for badugi, and having played a ton of triple draw back in the day it wasn't hard to come up with a quick strategy for this game as well. The hyperturbos are more about hyperturbo strategy than they are about strategy of the actual game being played anyway. For most of the games I was pretty much guessing what the proper strategy was but I figured (or hoped) I was probably ahead of the field anyway.

I'll make elite almost exclusively on hypers. I played some regular sngs the first couple months of the year before I banished myself from them, and I also play some mtt's here and there, like I did during the wcoop.
how many hypers have you played this year.

what was a tougher grind, playing the regular sngs, or the hypers

could you get 2m vpps with just hypers.

how many days a week do you play. avg session length.

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09-24-2009 , 07:33 AM
Are there any hyper turbo sngs besides the wcoop satellites now that the wcoop has ended?
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09-24-2009 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Zima421
how many hypers have you played this year.

what was a tougher grind, playing the regular sngs, or the hypers

could you get 2m vpps with just hypers.

how many days a week do you play. avg session length.

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1) 53577

2) I don't know, I enjoyed both of them, right now I enjoy the hypers way more just because I was getting crushed at the regular sngs the last few months I played them so that has probably warped my perception a bit.

3) It's possible probably but I don't know that I ever would.

4) It depends a lot. During WCOOP I played every day for 12+ hours because I was playing every event, so it got me to put in a ton of volume. On a normal week I'll probably put in a couple 6-8 hour days and 2 or 3 other days where I play for a couple hours.
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09-24-2009 , 01:28 PM
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Are there any hyper turbo sngs besides the wcoop satellites now that the wcoop has ended?
Yeah a lot of the bigger guarantee tournaments at night have them, and there's some on sundays for the mil and warmup etc.
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09-24-2009 , 02:31 PM
Just want to say that the amount of volume you put in seems ridiculous.

What would you say are "normal" swings that should be expected in the 6man satellites (2 seats paid, 3rd gets money back) hyper-turbos. Particularily the $87.72s. How bad can the swings get? Personal biggest swing in these?

Do you recognize the name hartlis1 from some of the WCOOP hyper-turbo satellites? If so, thoughts on my play? Any leaks that you noticed that you wouldn't mind pointing out? (PM is fine too if you don't want to say this to the world). Completely understand if you don't want to comment on this.

I'm not sure if you'd release this, but how much profit do you have from Hyper-Turbos alone? Also, how many VPPs earned for the year to date? How many VPPs earned / day of playing on average?

Thanks,
hartlis1
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09-24-2009 , 02:41 PM
Also, few more things. Total buyins on the day of the WCOOP ME this year? How many seats won? Win / Loss on the day? Was really curious to know about that.

What do you have for an internet connection and how many backup connections do you have readily available?
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09-24-2009 , 02:55 PM
For the hypers, what payout structure do you feel you have the biggest edge in? And why? Also, which ones do you enjoy playing the most?

Oh one more thing, would you mind informing the people here when you decide to skip playing for a day? I'm not sure if I can take any more SNGs with you and poker_in_pb in them. Feel like I run the worst against you two..
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09-24-2009 , 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hartlin
Just want to say that the amount of volume you put in seems ridiculous.

What would you say are "normal" swings that should be expected in the 6man satellites (2 seats paid, 3rd gets money back) hyper-turbos. Particularily the $87.72s. How bad can the swings get? Personal biggest swing in these?

Do you recognize the name hartlis1 from some of the WCOOP hyper-turbo satellites? If so, thoughts on my play? Any leaks that you noticed that you wouldn't mind pointing out? (PM is fine too if you don't want to say this to the world). Completely understand if you don't want to comment on this.

I'm not sure if you'd release this, but how much profit do you have from Hyper-Turbos alone? Also, how many VPPs earned for the year to date? How many VPPs earned / day of playing on average?

Thanks,
hartlis1
I think the swings in the hypers are a little less than in the regular sngs but they can still be pretty big. I'm pretty sure I've had a couple 100+ buyin downswings in them so far.

I don't recognize your name, sorry.

I'm not going to comment on how much I make from the hypers; that's the reason I block my sharkscope in the first place. I'm at 823k vpp right now. Hard to say what an average day of vpps is, I mean like main event of wcoop day I earned like 40k or something and other days when I play for 2 hrs I might earn like 1k.
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09-24-2009 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hartlin
Also, few more things. Total buyins on the day of the WCOOP ME this year? How many seats won? Win / Loss on the day? Was really curious to know about that.

What do you have for an internet connection and how many backup connections do you have readily available?
On the wcoop main event day I played 253 $1785 hypers and 36 $1050s. I played some other smaller ones too but the majority of the buyins were those. How many seats won? I'm just guessing here but probably around 100. Win/loss? I did really well that day, I think I ended up winning about 90k in main event sats plus I final tabled the 10k horse, but I ran way way above expectation obviously.

I use a wireless cable connection and I also have a Verizon aircard as a backup. I also have a backup computer ready at all times when I'm playing in case my laptop crashes.
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09-24-2009 , 03:19 PM
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For the hypers, what payout structure do you feel you have the biggest edge in? And why? Also, which ones do you enjoy playing the most?

Oh one more thing, would you mind informing the people here when you decide to skip playing for a day? I'm not sure if I can take any more SNGs with you and poker_in_pb in them. Feel like I run the worst against you two..
1) I don't think the structure matters as much as what tourney the hyper is satelliting into. My roi during wcoop and scoop was quite a bit higher than it was during normal times. No matter what the structure is, if you're playing against 5 other competent players you just aren't going to win much, if at all. The $87s that satellite into the sunday million that run during the week are the best example of this. Almost everyone in those has some idea what they are doing, and even though some of the regulars really aren't that good, obviously you would much rather have a random in them than a subpar regular.

But to answer your question, during the wcoop I seemed to do way better in winner-take-all hypers as opposed to ones that paid out 2 seats, but it was a pretty small sample size since the vast majority of the hypers were of the "pay 2 seats" variety, so I'm really not putting much credence into that.

2) I'm sure I will be skipping lots of days in the near future because I played a ton during the wcoop and and pretty tired now. Good luck in the games bud.
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09-24-2009 , 06:03 PM
What is your current VPP count if you don't mind sharing?
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09-24-2009 , 06:29 PM
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What is your current VPP count if you don't mind sharing?
823,211.05

no idea where the .05 came from
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09-24-2009 , 09:15 PM
Can you take a pic of your computer setup?
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09-24-2009 , 09:18 PM
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823,211.05

no idea where the .05 came from
You're basically at SNE already. I thought I read earlier that you might not make it.
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09-24-2009 , 09:18 PM
Just read this thread from front to end(took a long time).

Sorry to hear about your downswing at the beginning of the year. But what an amazing '08! I think that record speaks to your competence as a player. The lack of poor players in the high stakes sngs(or should I say the abundance of good players) seems to have put a dent in those games. Regardless, looks like your having a very profitable September.

My question is what are your feelings about poker now and what games(cash, mtt, or sng/ and buy in) do you want to focus on in the future?
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09-24-2009 , 10:04 PM
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Can you take a pic of your computer setup?
Eh it's basically just a laptop in an office with a pc set up beside it. I only use the pc if something happens to the laptop though.
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09-24-2009 , 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by steel108
You're basically at SNE already. I thought I read earlier that you might not make it.
Yeah I played a ton the last couple months. I was at about 300k in July before the free 100k for playing the wsop.
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09-24-2009 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dostofan
Just read this thread from front to end(took a long time).

Sorry to hear about your downswing at the beginning of the year. But what an amazing '08! I think that record speaks to your competence as a player. The lack of poor players in the high stakes sngs(or should I say the abundance of good players) seems to have put a dent in those games. Regardless, looks like your having a very profitable September.

My question is what are your feelings about poker now and what games(cash, mtt, or sng/ and buy in) do you want to focus on in the future?
For now I'm sticking with the hypers but who knows if those will still be profitable for me in the near future. I don't really know what direction I will go next; I never really do. I'm really not much of a long-term planner.
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