I see you playing the $88 hypers a lot... hows your ROI in them now? (I noticed earlier in the said you said 2-3%, but that was months ago)

I noticed you have been playing at night lately.. any reason for this?

What kind have swings have you experienced at the hypers? (if you noticed any)
I went on a $5k upswing .. to a $3k downswing ... I actually blame you for tilting me
lol, I think you might actually gun for me because I whine a lot when I lose.. yea I'm a crybaby. You might know who I am now.. lol

What do you think happened to sports betting lines to make them tougher? Do you think that is a permanent situation?

1) ROI is about the same.

2) Been playing at night mostly because I'm bored and the wife is asleep, no real reason.

3) Ya I'm pretty sure I know who this is haha. I've had a few 10k downswings so far and I would guess that's pretty normal in these.

The books got smarter after people beat them on certain types of lines for too much money. Also the UIEGA and closing of Pinnacle and Mansion and whatever other books closed for bettors in the US makes for a lot less good options to shop for lines at. NeTeller closing was probably one of the biggest factors because it went from being able to transfer 5 figures between books in a matter of minutes, to now where it can take weeks sometimes to get any money.

I don't think the lines themselves are all that much harder to beat than they were 5 years ago, but there's just less books that offer reduced juice lines and other promotions now, and really just less options overall. At my peak I had money at like 30 books at a time, and now I'd probably feel comfortable having any significant sum at 5 books at the most.

Also I got booted from a few good books for winning too much.

George,

I just spent the last 2 hours reading the entire well when I should have been grinding micro FR cash, lol. Really enjoyed it and thank you for the honesty.

I have always sucked at SNG's but may give it a shot again (as I really enjoy playing them) I can 24 table cash np but I suck when I 24 table SNG's, go figure. I think I am too agressive on the bubble, in my mind I am trying to win every one instead of trying to cash more often....any suggestions?

Shane

I'm guessing at the lower levels you get called by all sorts of hands in spots where they should be folding most hands. I haven't really played low limit sngs ever but it seems like you would want to let other people knock each other out more so than in the higher sngs. That's not to say to not be aggressive but I imagine if they see you push a few times with 27o that you will get called very light eventually. Good luck in the games.

George im ArlBsch. What do you think of me in the Hypers. Also I cant believe you play so many tables and can chat.

George,

Some hypothetical questions regarding hyper SNGs vs turbo SNGS.

1) Do you think that it's logical to have $525+30 turbos when a $525 hyper would only take a $10.50 rake?

2) If Stars offered a $525+10.50 hyper alongside the $525+30 turbo, which do you think would get more action in the long run? Would your answer change if we were given 1000 or even 1500 chips instead of 500 in the hypers? Would you prefer 500 chips or 1000-1500 (or a different number) if given a choice? Also, what do you think the popularity of a $105+9 turbo would be vs. a $105+$2.10 hyper?

3). It is my opinion that the hypers require nearly as much skill as the turbos, and maybe more in some cases, but the rake in the high stakes turbos is close to impossible to overcome these days, even with SNE. The reason I think stars isn't offering hyper SNGs is because the hyper sats pay out in W$ or T$ instead of cash, which can be costly for them because of the payout fees they have to incur, while the W/T$ are of very little cost to them. Your thoughts?

I remember your name but I think I've only played with you a few times. I checked my notes and I don't have any notes on you so that means you haven't done anything completely stupid that I've noticed. Your results seem pretty good on Sharkscope so far so you must be doing something right.

As for chatting, it's just something I like to do. It kind of breaks up the monotony a bit. Plus I think it's good for the games to have chatting going on; it makes it more of a relaxed atmosphere. So yeah, while it's hard for me to chat all the time with 20+ tables going, I try to do it as much as I can.

Edit: Also I think it's good for me to chat sometimes because half the people think I'm a bot anyway and I don't know if they're serious or not but obviously it's not good for the games to have ppl thinking they're playing with a bot.

1) I think the rake is too high in both of them to be honest. The hypers are weird because the rake is 2% no matter what the buyin is. I don't know of any other form of poker where the rake percentage is constant across all buyins. It should be obvious why this is bad and probably unsustainable for the site. I think 2% rake at the lower buyin hypers is about right but it should probably get closer to 1% in the higher ones. Otherwise there will eventually be no winners (kind of like what is happening in regular turbo sngs).

2) Almost surely the hyper would get way more action in that scenario. For most sng regs the first 15-20 minutes of a sng are basically a waste of time anyway and then after that it pretty much plays like a hyper. So I think a lot of regs would be interested in essentially skipping the "deepstacked" part of a sng since obviously most of their profit comes from the later stages.

I don't have any preference as to the number of chips given. I'm willing to adjust to whatever structure is offered. I actually quite like the structures now but it could be that I'm just used to them.

105 hyper would run way way more often than a 105 turbo. Like probably 5x more at least.

The problem from Stars' end though is that it's kind of bad for them if hyper sngs went off way more often than the regular sngs. Then ppl who "want to play poker" in a sng wouldn't even really have that option anymore. I think it would reflect badly on their site in an overall sense if they had tons of "goofy gambling games" running all the time.

3) Yes I agree that the rake is too high in sngs (see my comments regarding your first question).

I don't really understand what you're trying to say regarding W$/T$. To me they are essentially the same thing since after you are done you can exchange W$/T$ for cash anyway. Perhaps you could clarify what you are trying to say because I feel like I'm misinterpreting something.

saw u alot on my table during the 6max turbos to wcoop events, Any special reason you were purely grinding these?
Other then that nice well.

Uhh to make money?

And thanks.

What kind of rate do you get for your W$'s? What site do you use?

There's a thread on here in the MTT Community forum for buying and selling w$ and t$. The going rate changes depending on what is going on and how useful the w$ are at the time.

Could you rate the top 5 players in the hypers. Besides offcourse you and poker_in_pb. And please dont list rwesty.

This isn't a question I really want to answer because there are a lot of players who know what they are doing and by narrowing it down to 5 I would just be leaving off 10 other people who deserved it just as much.

I don't understand the comment about rwesty though. I think you are trying to make fun of him for some reason but I'm not really sure why.

Has to do with suckouts

Seriously you get mad about suckouts in a hyperturbo?

If this was the case anyone who played a hyper would hate me by now (not saying they don't already).

LOL no, just him. He is the only player, when I search, that is a winner, doing what he does, over a large sample size and it just blows my mind.

Sorry I am just posting stupid things. If you were to estimate after an early double up meaning you are either the 1st or 2nd person to double up. What percentage does the likleyhood of cashing/placing go up.

I have a pretty good estimate on this based on my research but it's probably counterproductive for me to post it. Basically though if you have enough tourneys played, just go through your hand histories and find ones where you doubled up early and see what your cash % is in those tourneys.

Sorry if I'm being intentionally vague, but I think you can understand that giving my opponents free information that took me a lot of time to come up with myself is not a very good strategy for me.

I've noticed when I mass multi-table the $22 hypers I have a constant stream of people hating on me although I'm not really sure why. This doesn't happen nearly as much at higher stakes. It seems to have made it's way to 2+2 as well.

Proportionally to every single winning player you get it in bad at a way way way higher percentage of the time.
Anyways your going to be President so your fine rwesty.