Warning! Merge Network: Carbon Poker
07-05-2011
, 08:13 PM
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, 09:02 PM
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, 01:59 PM
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, 04:16 PM
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, 04:19 PM
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, 06:59 PM
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, 07:23 PM
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, 07:30 PM
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, 08:44 PM
02-01-2012
, 05:02 AM
07-29-2012
, 07:37 PM
07-29-2012
, 10:30 PM
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Are not getting an answer and not liking an answer two different things? When people ask me if Merge and Carbon Poker are criminal enterprises I will be sure to tell them that the answer is yes. I mean there are no standards right? I just give whatever answer that I want because it doesn't matter if the person getting the answer likes that answer. They got an answer and that is the important part right?
I mean I have answers for all different types of things about Merge and Carbon Poker. For example,
1. Is Carbon Poker intentionally delaying paying people?
Yes
2. Could they send WU out to people and have their money to them all in under a week?
Yes
3. Will Carbon Poker be getting any money from visa,mastercard,WU etc four months from now?
No
It's all over for Carbon Poker and the Merge Network. The only acceptable answer is to have integrity. You don't get to make the decision Chris about what answers you choose to give. It doesn't work that way.
I mean I have answers for all different types of things about Merge and Carbon Poker. For example,
1. Is Carbon Poker intentionally delaying paying people?
Yes
2. Could they send WU out to people and have their money to them all in under a week?
Yes
3. Will Carbon Poker be getting any money from visa,mastercard,WU etc four months from now?
No
It's all over for Carbon Poker and the Merge Network. The only acceptable answer is to have integrity. You don't get to make the decision Chris about what answers you choose to give. It doesn't work that way.
Cliffs for people not aware of northeastbeast:
He won a few dollars on Pokerstars. He deposited a few bucks on Merge and lost it all playing $1 turbos. Because of this he is convinced that these two facts are proof that the site rigged the S&GS against him and he deserves a refund. He then states that he will fine them $100 a day until they return his money and that if they dont he has connections and will get them all set to Guantanamo Bay. And no I did not make up or embellish this story in any way.
07-30-2012
, 01:58 AM
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Hey idiot, look at the dates on the posts. Everyone is getting paid fine. Quit trolling. You aren't getting a refund just because you lost you loser. Let this be a life lesson for you. Accept your losses like a man and quit being a crying little poor sport losing little five year old girl.
Cliffs for people not aware of northeastbeast:
He won a few dollars on Pokerstars. He deposited a few bucks on Merge and lost it all playing $1 turbos. Because of this he is convinced that these two facts are proof that the site rigged the S&GS against him and he deserves a refund. He then states that he will fine them $100 a day until they return his money and that if they dont he has connections and will get them all set to Guantanamo Bay. And no I did not make up or embellish this story in any way.
Cliffs for people not aware of northeastbeast:
He won a few dollars on Pokerstars. He deposited a few bucks on Merge and lost it all playing $1 turbos. Because of this he is convinced that these two facts are proof that the site rigged the S&GS against him and he deserves a refund. He then states that he will fine them $100 a day until they return his money and that if they dont he has connections and will get them all set to Guantanamo Bay. And no I did not make up or embellish this story in any way.
I've already made complaints to try to have their domain names pulled. I have filed a complaint with the FBI. It is Sunday so tomorrow I will do more during business hours. The problem for them is that their customer service record is atrocious. This isn't like I am making a complaint against an organization that has very much goodwill with anyone. Even when they tried to maintain some level of legitimacy they handled every aspect of their business in a grossly negligent way. Their software has huge problems even now. Either they are the biggest idiots on the planet or the most corrupt organization I have ever seen. Either way it is probably better off for everyone that they aren't in business anymore.
Last edited by northeastbeast2; 07-30-2012 at 02:07 AM.
07-30-2012
, 02:16 AM
07-30-2012
, 05:03 AM
07-30-2012
, 05:20 AM
Yes, I definitely wish that a 2+2 mod would look over his post history and simply get rid of him. It's not just that he's badmouthing Merge, but he's spewing some insane stuff that will turn other players off from online poker in general. It's bad for us all when people spew this baseless garbage for all to see.
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Kahn
07-30-2012
, 08:17 AM
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Yes, I definitely wish that a 2+2 mod would look over his post history and simply get rid of him. It's not just that he's badmouthing Merge, but he's spewing some insane stuff that will turn other players off from online poker in general. It's bad for us all when people spew this baseless garbage for all to see.
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Kahn
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Kahn
He has posted more in this thread
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...dition-255990/
Including claims that specific players cheated based on their sharkscope results (easy to prove he is delusional) even though he does not even have a sharkscope membership to do proper research.
He posted a manifesto in that thread with his initial ideas, but he has added a ton more just like the guys who put crazy notes all over their walls to uncover a hidden secret only they seem to know exists.
Guys like this are a bit of a nightmare to companies (and agencies he no doubt spams endlessly) mainly because they place zero value on their time, and they will waste others pursuing an agenda that is meaningless to everyone else in the world. Some companies give these little guys some money just to make them go away (similar to the person who lends a guy who never pays back loans $50 just so they never have to see them again), but given the LOLtastic threats this guy has made no company would ever give him a cent and they generally let these guys scream themselves and waste their own time while ignoring them (as they should).
Anyway here was part of his manifesto in the other thread. This guy will end up on a street corner some day with a little sign of his paranoid concerns, but at least then he will get some fresh air.
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Sure I can tell you how it works. Here is how they are doing it.
1. Hire a bunch of people in a poor country to take your deposits and play in the games.
2. Train them so that they know how to collude in games in the proper way depending on the result that is desired.
3. Pay those people to post in forums and create blogs to add legitimacy and plausible denibility in order to add doubt and avoid detection.
4. Use your affiliates as prop players and allow them to maintain winning longterm records in the games. These are your "big winners".
5. Have another group of people focused on trying to find ways to steal from any players that have managed to win in the cash games in heads up situations against other American players. These players superuse and always maintain low sample sizes as to keep their results statistically insignificant.
6. For your Americans verses Americans or non-house verses non-house matches rig the results of the match to make the rake collected as extreme as possible but still within the bounds of being unprovable due to sample size.
7. Use the VIP store as a tool to lure people but make the acquisition of the items in that store impossible due to "software errors"
8. Have a cashout policy that is very unreasonable in any context but hide behind the excuse that it is because of the difficulty transferring money.
9. Verify documents and have strict security measures in situations that all relate to denying people their money and reinforce the perception of the site as a place that cares about protecting the integrity of transactions on it.
10. Set-up affiliated credit card processors to both handle poker deposits and to engage in identity theft and credit card fraud. Control the distribution of short term results in your poker games so that it allows you to make it appear that players are on an upswing in your games when in reality you're really dumping stolen money to make it impractically traceable and unlink-able to your network affiliates.
11. Send uncashable checks out to any players that get through the egregious cash-out policy to string them along. This adds informational legitimacy in the poker community and works as a from of advertising to bait more suckers to deposit.
12. Set up a bunch of skins that you control tightly but act as if you have loose cannons among them so that you can cut them loose when they blatantly steal from their customers in more extreme ways. Brand arbitrage I guess you could call it.
1. Hire a bunch of people in a poor country to take your deposits and play in the games.
2. Train them so that they know how to collude in games in the proper way depending on the result that is desired.
3. Pay those people to post in forums and create blogs to add legitimacy and plausible denibility in order to add doubt and avoid detection.
4. Use your affiliates as prop players and allow them to maintain winning longterm records in the games. These are your "big winners".
5. Have another group of people focused on trying to find ways to steal from any players that have managed to win in the cash games in heads up situations against other American players. These players superuse and always maintain low sample sizes as to keep their results statistically insignificant.
6. For your Americans verses Americans or non-house verses non-house matches rig the results of the match to make the rake collected as extreme as possible but still within the bounds of being unprovable due to sample size.
7. Use the VIP store as a tool to lure people but make the acquisition of the items in that store impossible due to "software errors"
8. Have a cashout policy that is very unreasonable in any context but hide behind the excuse that it is because of the difficulty transferring money.
9. Verify documents and have strict security measures in situations that all relate to denying people their money and reinforce the perception of the site as a place that cares about protecting the integrity of transactions on it.
10. Set-up affiliated credit card processors to both handle poker deposits and to engage in identity theft and credit card fraud. Control the distribution of short term results in your poker games so that it allows you to make it appear that players are on an upswing in your games when in reality you're really dumping stolen money to make it impractically traceable and unlink-able to your network affiliates.
11. Send uncashable checks out to any players that get through the egregious cash-out policy to string them along. This adds informational legitimacy in the poker community and works as a from of advertising to bait more suckers to deposit.
12. Set up a bunch of skins that you control tightly but act as if you have loose cannons among them so that you can cut them loose when they blatantly steal from their customers in more extreme ways. Brand arbitrage I guess you could call it.
07-30-2012
, 02:43 PM
04-21-2017
, 06:46 PM
I don't know if six years is still in your timeframe called 'soon', but one can merely conclude that Carbon/Merge is still running hotter than ever with higher traffic rates than ever before.
A little tip: Don't apply for the following jobs:
- Prophet
- Fortune teller
- Market analyst
On a more serious note:
I've started depositing on various sites with BitCoin. I also tried that - just for fun with Carbon to see how withdrawal would work with BitCoin, and I must say it works like a charm. I can deposit within minutes, and withdrawal takes about the same. That's faster than any other site. They even give you a deposit bonus for using BitCoin (but I would do it anyway). Besides BitCoin has the other great advantage of being in an almost constant upward curve so its value increases just by sitting there in your account. I sometimes invest in a little BitCoin, and it is probably better +EV than most pokerplayers could ever get as ROI. A month ago I bougt for 5000 EUROs BitCoin and within a month they are now worth 6400 EUROs. That's 1400 EUROs in a month and a lot better ROI than any pokerplayer playing a moderate amount of time would earn. Having just a couple huundred thousands worth of BitCoin could actually give you a solid income that would pay all the bills and more in most households. I've bought BitCoins over 4 years now, and the rate of deflation is more or less constant with only small daily fluctuations. Over the years it has increased several thousand percent in value, which is remarkable.
But sticking to the point: Depositing in BitCoin and withdrawing in BitCoin is equally fast. And nowadays ther are several serious banks that deal in BitCoins as well as the local currency. Open an account in such a bank or simply get a BitCoin Wallet and you are good to go. It has never been easier.
Good Luck at the felt.
04-21-2017
, 07:33 PM
04-21-2017
, 07:34 PM
Quote:
Fast forward to SIX YEARS LATER:
I don't know if six years is still in your timeframe called 'soon', but one can merely conclude that Carbon/Merge is still running hotter than ever with higher traffic rates than ever before.
A little tip: Don't apply for the following jobs:
- Prophet
- Fortune teller
- Market analyst
On a more serious note:
I've started depositing on various sites with BitCoin. I also tried that - just for fun with Carbon to see how withdrawal would work with BitCoin, and I must say it works like a charm. I can deposit within minutes, and withdrawal takes about the same. That's faster than any other site. They even give you a deposit bonus for using BitCoin (but I would do it anyway). Besides BitCoin has the other great advantage of being in an almost constant upward curve so its value increases just by sitting there in your account. I sometimes invest in a little BitCoin, and it is probably better +EV than most pokerplayers could ever get as ROI. A month ago I bougt for 5000 EUROs BitCoin and within a month they are now worth 6400 EUROs. That's 1400 EUROs in a month and a lot better ROI than any pokerplayer playing a moderate amount of time would earn. Having just a couple huundred thousands worth of BitCoin could actually give you a solid income that would pay all the bills and more in most households. I've bought BitCoins over 4 years now, and the rate of deflation is more or less constant with only small daily fluctuations. Over the years it has increased several thousand percent in value, which is remarkable.
But sticking to the point: Depositing in BitCoin and withdrawing in BitCoin is equally fast. And nowadays ther are several serious banks that deal in BitCoins as well as the local currency. Open an account in such a bank or simply get a BitCoin Wallet and you are good to go. It has never been easier.
Good Luck at the felt.
I don't know if six years is still in your timeframe called 'soon', but one can merely conclude that Carbon/Merge is still running hotter than ever with higher traffic rates than ever before.
A little tip: Don't apply for the following jobs:
- Prophet
- Fortune teller
- Market analyst
On a more serious note:
I've started depositing on various sites with BitCoin. I also tried that - just for fun with Carbon to see how withdrawal would work with BitCoin, and I must say it works like a charm. I can deposit within minutes, and withdrawal takes about the same. That's faster than any other site. They even give you a deposit bonus for using BitCoin (but I would do it anyway). Besides BitCoin has the other great advantage of being in an almost constant upward curve so its value increases just by sitting there in your account. I sometimes invest in a little BitCoin, and it is probably better +EV than most pokerplayers could ever get as ROI. A month ago I bougt for 5000 EUROs BitCoin and within a month they are now worth 6400 EUROs. That's 1400 EUROs in a month and a lot better ROI than any pokerplayer playing a moderate amount of time would earn. Having just a couple huundred thousands worth of BitCoin could actually give you a solid income that would pay all the bills and more in most households. I've bought BitCoins over 4 years now, and the rate of deflation is more or less constant with only small daily fluctuations. Over the years it has increased several thousand percent in value, which is remarkable.
But sticking to the point: Depositing in BitCoin and withdrawing in BitCoin is equally fast. And nowadays ther are several serious banks that deal in BitCoins as well as the local currency. Open an account in such a bank or simply get a BitCoin Wallet and you are good to go. It has never been easier.
Good Luck at the felt.
04-21-2017
, 09:26 PM