It's about grrrinders.com . David Webb is jilting players from wsop seats, to not paying others in cash. to get some idea of whats going on you can go on grrrinders group page , SPADECLUBBERS/GRRRINDERS , Grrrinders Uncensored on Facebook. David Webb is down right deceiving his players ( Patrons) , then making up all kinds of excuses up , leaving everybody hanging.This story has to get out there and be told.

isnt there already a thread about this?

yes there is

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...-wsop-1213604/

The drama continues at Grrrinders. Does it surprise me any? NO!!! David Webb is clearly only looking out for his degenerate gambling self.He's Manipulating , telling more lies and excuses , does the Houdini disappearing act . People are fools to still go there and play!! They are complete fools!! This is outrageous! What would you do if one of your co-workers took your credit card out of your purse/wallet and headed out for lunch? You would flip your lid! You'd have them fired and prosecuted for theft. SO, why in god's name are they still giving money to someone that is literally stealing from them? David Webb represented themselves as honorable...respectable and honest and that person has proven that they are nothing but a lying, thieving shill....OVER AND OVER AGAIN...it's the principle.This amounts to nothing other than handing your money and self respect to a crack head...sound funny?!? Well, think about it!! A crack junkie smiles (like David Webb) asks you nicely (like David Webb) takes everything they can get their greedy hands on then takes more and blames someone else (just like David Webb) and disappears (as we all know, just like David Webb). I am sorry to say, anyone that gives Grrrinders a dime from this point on is begging for it.
Now they are having automatic membership. As one player put it,"THERE HAS NEVER BEEN AUTOMATIC WITHDRAWALS TO RENEW MEMBERSHIP HERE!

If the ownership has changed the terms and conditions, the least they could do is to alert the players! This is ridiculous! Again NO COMMUNICATION!" Another angry player said," I AM FUMING MAD
I got the message of auto renew in my email. I emailed Codd 2 times telling him I did not authorize this and want my membership to expire. No response from support. I posted on Grrrinder's blogg stating I do NOT want to renew until unfulfilled winnings from last summer were addressed.
I see today they took the money from my account anyway.... AND GET THIS.... I can't logg in because it says I need to renew.
PLEASE.... someone post on my behalf on the renewal blogg and let other members know what is going on. I thought I killed the card they had but obviously they had one of my other cards." They also go on stating," Codd tells me they didn't take it... my account says otherwise... with the Grrrinder's name right next to it. It was taken today. I'm sure they posted the disclaimer. It was just very sneaky not to notify the members. Especially those that have been with them from the start who wouldn't think to look for a new policy. We all knew that Grrrinder's couldn't do auto pay. I think I was mainly upset because I told Codd several times I didn't want to rejoin until David addressed winning I had 2 summers ago now. When that is acknowledged I will reconsider joining. But having it taken out of my account after I told them I wanted to let it expire that was not right... worst part now... Codd says he has no record of the payment so I have to prove now they took the money. It's just a problem I don't feel I deserve to be having with them."
Another sketchy situation is: David Webb was trying to sell the site. (http://www.grrrinders.com/blog/10/site-update-0912) Well, what happened to the selling of Grrrinders?! No word and once again players are left in the dark.
A recent blog post from Randy (A.K.A coddfish) is basily the only customer support Grrrinders has. To read please go here to this link: http://www.grrrinders.com/blog/67/gr...rs-site-update
There's two statements that popped out. " We felt it was best to remain silent until we knew for sure that we had discovered a problem." Really?!! Really?! You got to be kidding me! A problem?? There were quite a few problems. People were posting left and right about various problems. Then there was this. "This has been a difficult time for us all and many have lost faith. I ask you to hang in there. Better days are coming Grrrinders !" Of course, keep them tied tighter , and dragging them through some more bull****. They are cutting tournament and lowering prize pools. Plus, there is another disturbing matter.For those who won a seat for the Jen Harman Reno Tournament Atlantis Hotel and casino (Reno) confirming that the Jen Harman tournament has been postponed until next spring (March). " I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may cause Grrrinders who have won seats. I will keep you updated when the information becomes available to me regarding firm dates of the rescheduling." Are the players going to get compsensated and given a cash prize then?
Grrrinders has screwed the poker community long enough, delayed checks, delayed prizes, poker seat winners got blown off in Vegas,etc. etc. If you wish to know more, feel free to go to Grrrinders Uncensored FaceBook page, SPADECLUBBERS/GRRRINDERS , and Grrrinders Poker Club .
The site should be shut down!!!!

So you're mainly just mad because of an automatic withdrawal you didn't authorize? Call your bank and dispute the charge, you'll have the money back today or tomorrow.

^What he said. Banks are always cool about that. Auto debiters gonna auto debit

Anyone who plays there is apparently a complete fool, but how is anyone to know there is a problem there if a guy as upset about you can only be bothered to post about it twice in four months, and even after being told about the other thread on the topic, won't even post there?