re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

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no liquid in the network

Chikopoker this bust

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

All will be payed, I would give it till Monday. As I can see that same players come to chat every day with the same question. It will not be overnight.



Got that response lollol, chat is arrogant when im the one whos been waiting a decade for my money, nice.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

online support yesterday said that for next week start paying...

Really?..

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

Well that's the most specific timeframe they've given so far to be fair.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

Just to chime in: I'm in the same boat. I've not withdrawn money up to a few days ago so can't say I've been waiting, but have $6k on there. Will let you know if anything develops on my side, but obv I'm getting the same bs that you are.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

What ban? Are you man of the site? The facts are. Paynorake no pay more than two months any one player. Each time the live chat that lie will pay soon. I have the right to post, this site are scammers. There's no other site. That you defend them so that its scribbler of site and not a player who is not paid. OF NO PLAYER HAS NO PAID MORE THAN 2 MONTHS-this is a fact.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

What are you mods doing?, ban Blufer, its pretty annoying to have a big troll in the thread when you got alot of money stuck on the site.
I have talked to their chat again and suddenly they cant give me a time frame for my withdrawl, which they could two days ago.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

We don`t want you here, bluffer.
Go away, please.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

me 16:16:17

yeah, its about the non processed withdrawals again. You know players are starting to communicate over the 2+2 forums. And now the Support told 3 things in the last 2 day. to one guy the said it will be very soon and we should give it till monday. to another guy they said it will be during the coming week. and now they said to the same guy that they cant give him a timeframe... so i have one simple question. when will finally the withdrawals be processed?


Zac 16:17:19

All withdrawals are currently being processed around the clock that is why an exact time frame can not be confirmed


me 16:17:49

so you are really currently cashing money out?


Zac 16:18:11

Yes tha tis correct

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

What rooms chat does this come from? I just messed around with Paynorake support a bit and got the same sh.it as always:


LiveZilla


System 18:38:14

System is getting started. [3. august 2012. a. 18:38:14]


A representative will be connected, please be patient.



Titus enters the chatroom.



Titus 18:38:22

Hello XXX, my name is Titus, how may I help you?


XXX 18:39:20

Hello Titus! A person that I know asked support about the delay conserning payouts and received following answer: "All withdrawals are currently being processed around the clock that is why an exact time frame can not be confirmed"


Is this true, are cashouts really being processed?



Titus 18:40:46

I cannot provide you with any specifics at this time, as we are awaiting a further response regarding payouts. You will be notified once this feedback has been recieved.


XXX 18:41:32

Yes, but how did my friend receive this kind of answer?


From the support, or is he lying maybe?



Titus 18:43:23

Our Operations Department are working hard around the clock to have all withdrawals processed as quickly as possible, however I cannot provide you with a specific timeframe. Once we have been notified with further feedback by the relevant department, we will contact you back with the relevant details.


XXX 18:44:00

So some withdrawals are processed every day?


Or are you working hard around the clock to get them started?



Meaning, are there any withdrawals actually taking place?



Titus 18:45:59

Unfortunately I cannot provide you with an accurate answer at this time as all withdrawals are dealt with by a different department. Should we recieve any further feedback, we will notify you accordingly.


XXX 18:46:24

Thanks. Have a great evening, Titus!

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

Hi all,

Zac is obviously saying things he knows nothing about and I wonder how is he motivated to do so. I spoke to Dolf and Titus today (i suppose many of you know them already) and both of them gave me the usual robotic answers and when I pressed about Zacs answers, they said nothing specific and did not want to confirm on what Zac said. So I would not base my optimism on that.
However, here are the things we can base our optimism on:
1. they successfully upgraded the software and the upgrade is really good
2. its the summer months and the traffic is much worse anyway, so they might be waiting Sept. for example
3. They changed the withdrawal policy so that now it's extremely unpleasant. You can withdraw max 1k per week and only the 1st withdrawal is free, the other 3 are charged 50 bucs each. Why do this if you have no intention of paying out?
4. the 4 sites changed owners
5. this kind of delays have happened before(although probably not to all at the same time)
6. what gives me the most optimism, and I might be simply naive is that I can hardly imagine anybody being so arrogant as to be running a business completely transparently, seeking for new costumers, offering benefits, bonuses, allowing depositing and operating so for quite a while and in such manner that anybody can see.
7. kahnawake gaming commission asked us as well to be patient so that the transition period passes. I dont see how they could be motivated to lie about that.
anyway, lets at least try to be optimistic and start thinking creatively what we could do. Until sbdy finally screams to so hardly awaited "I GOT PAYED"

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

i got it from PNR live chat too

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

.I will go when pay me money. Am waiting more than 2 months for me. Paynorake not pay me money. Paynorake not paid of anyone. I also wait for money. Do not pay money to players for a long time is it fraud? I have the right . I'll write until to pay me . I have the right and tell the truth.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

Who owes you money? Of me or site? What am I guilty of that site I do not pay you? And I wait for money from them. Me too have promised but not paid. So are liars and deceivers

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

Well said Opacupa. As someone have said thoughout these threads, it does not do any good to bash the network until we get paid. As long as there is traffic and they are making money, there is hope that we will get paid. If the go bankrupt, we lose.... simple.

This sucks for sure, but simply coming on here to bitch does not help much. I think we would all understand if you bitch once in awhile, but constantly is just boring to read. This is a great way for everyone to comunicate about what we have learned and what we have in common, and when and if someone does indeed get paid out.

Many of us that have been on the network for many years, have always been paid out eventually.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

would it be smart to contact several affiliates which offer PNR sign ups? (all of us, so they see its serious)

So the reputable affiliates may contact PNR about this matter and consider of kicking them out of their program.
Question is, if it was helpful to us if they lose affiliates(it raises the chances of PNR go broke).

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

bluffer how about this...you tell me your real name and give me 1 dollar if the site pays up. My private message box is open. If not shut the hell up already and stop repeating your damn self. We heard your opinion already.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

I think its up to the players with large balances here to make these kinds of decisions and so far its quite clear they would rather wait and see what happens. Understandably so. Its not right that anyone like myself with less than $500 does anything to jeopardize the payouts of players who are owed thousands. I do think we should all continue to send emails and complain to live support though.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

I think I'll give it another week and then start thinking seriously about all the alternative options, including working towards affiliates as someone mentioned earlier. Maybe others will give their opions too, meaning how much longer are you willing to wait without taking actions?

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

chat still says "changes are being finalized " and money will go out "soon"

On pokerscout you can see that traffic is starting to cripple...

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

My coach Brokerstar of tagpoker.co.uk WAS an affiliate to begin until he left not longer after starting with them due to not being paid...

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

Yup traffic is looking pretty dire! I wonder how they will deal with that??

One thing that has kept me a little optimistic is that why buy a poker room and then run it into the ground to get player deposits? You lose whichever way you play it, even with player deposits.

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

I have been waiting for a small withdrawal of just over $200 now since the beginning of July.

In the past I have cashed out from Pay No Rake multiple times and although I have always had to wait I have received the money in the end. However, only once have I had to wait longer than a month.

I will keep everyone informed here of how the situation proceeds - hopefully I can soon say that I have successfully received my money!

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

Talked to Zac today and he proved to be more informed & human-like dude than other support guys. Just posting the chat log, can't confirm if what he said is true, but:


LiveZilla


System 22:35:52

System is getting started. [5. august 2012. a. 22:35:52]


A representative will be connected, please be patient.



Zac enters the chatroom.



Zac 22:36:08

Hello XXX, my name is Zac, how may I help you?


XXX 22:36:21

Hehey! I heard some great news!


Several people have told me that according to support payouts will start the beginning week, namely wednesday.



Just checking if true.



Zac 22:38:01

I can not confirm this as payout are being done around the clock so I do not know where they are getting that information from


XXX 22:38:49

Hmm, arond the clock? Can you specify what you mean by that? That players are getting paid on running basis, during these very days?


Would be cool, my oldest cashout is pending for over 2 months now.



Zac 22:41:05

As you know there is a huge back log of withdrawals and all withdrawals are being processed around the clock meaning as quick as possible, however the relevant department does not operate on weekends and public holidays


XXX 22:41:33

Ok, so some people are going to get their money on Monday then maybe?


Zac 22:42:01

yes


XXX 22:42:02

I have constant communication with over 20 players and none of them have got paid during last 2 months.


Ok, great news!



Zac 22:42:25

But I can not confirm who


XXX 22:42:38

I totally understand, privacy policy!


Ok, surely some of my contacts will report getting paid then, during next weeks.



Thank you, you made me feel much hopeful.



Is it ok if I communicate what you told me?



Zac 22:43:49

Its a pleasure thank you


XXX 22:44:10

Some people are getting pretty aggravated, they think the site is going down and freerolling on deposits!


So they plan to launch a flaming campain against Chico.



Wouldnt be in anyones interest imo.



Zac 22:44:41

Yes but remember I did not say everybody will be getting paid on monday as that is what most people will think


XXX 22:45:01

Sure, I will not tell them that.


Just that some people are getting paid already.



Zac 22:45:25

Nah we have some very good suprizes installed for our clients in the nearfuture


near future



XXX 22:45:55

Ok, thanks Zac, pleasure talking to you, unlike to some other robotic support staff.


Have a nice evening, I'll spread the news



Zac 22:46:31

Its a pleasure thank you

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 

thanks for posting. we will see if something happens tomorrow...