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MALDOROR2007 07-16-2012 11:34 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
The traffic has been good recently yet nobody seems to be getting paid. So what´s everyone´s strategy? The ol´KEEP PLAYING/KEEP PRAYING one-two? (that´s my strategy i´m afraid)

Sufferinsuccotash 07-16-2012 11:50 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MALDOROR2007 (Post 33794177)
The traffic has been good recently yet nobody seems to be getting paid. So what´s everyone´s strategy? The ol´KEEP PLAYING/KEEP PRAYING one-two? (that´s my strategy i´m afraid)

My strategy is DON'T PLAY 'TIL I GET PAID.

I haven't played for over 5 weeks now and neither have 3 of the 4 friends I've warned. Lucky for them I only have 4 friends lol.

Daig 07-17-2012 07:23 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Yep, I'm not playing either until I get paid.

SpasKozhuharov 07-17-2012 07:59 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
I dont play too until i get paid ..This place sucks badly will we ever get our money out?And did u saw the last new??They take 50$ if you request a 2nd cash out in 30 days!!That is amazing lets stop playing and wait or contact their "boss" and seek for justice!In fact they didnt give me any phone number and told me they use only mail system
pathetic!:eek:

Mylife0115 07-17-2012 10:35 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sufferinsuccotash (Post 33794475)
My strategy is DON'T PLAY 'TIL I GET PAID.

I haven't played for over 5 weeks now and neither have 3 of the 4 friends I've warned. Lucky for them I only have 4 friends lol.

i have not played for more than 6 weeks...

riGGad 07-17-2012 10:44 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
have not played fore more than 7 weeks and have waited fore my money almost 8 weeks.

NuTS_for_NiTS 07-18-2012 04:52 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
The fact they are bothering to send out this email gives some hope for payouts, but WHEN!? This is so stressful, being at the mercy of those people.

Daig 07-18-2012 01:28 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
There may be hope. I sent a reply to the above automated email that everyone received, and I got a reply today:

Quote:

Dear Cory.
Thank you for contacting us.

We apologize for the delay in your payout and ask that you be patient a while longer.

As you are aware, our operations have recently been acquired by Julian International Holdings, Inc (JIH).

JIH unconditionally guarantee past and future payouts. However, please note that there is a sizeable backlog of pending payouts which are being run through various fraud checks, prioritized and fulfilled per contractual agreements.

JIH wish to assure you that as soon as the backlog is complete, all payouts will resume normally.

If you have any questions in regards to your pending payout, please contact the payments department at cashier@chicopokernetwork.com

Regards,
Payments Department
The Chico Poker Network
Not often you get a reply from them either.

KaraKool 07-18-2012 04:55 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daig (Post 33823142)
There may be hope. I sent a reply to the above automated email that everyone received, and I got a reply today:



Not often you get a reply from them either.

got same email

NuTS_for_NiTS 07-20-2012 03:54 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daig (Post 33823142)
However, please note that there is a sizeable backlog of pending payouts which are being run through various fraud checks, prioritized and fulfilled per contractual agreements.

This part gives me chills, reminding all those people whose accounts have been suspended in the past due to bogus chipdumping cases.

riGGad 07-22-2012 11:22 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Smells like a bankruptcy to me, hope not waited 52 days noow

Sufferinsuccotash 07-22-2012 12:33 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Its true that the Action Network in the past was slow to pay players at times. Withdrawals would trickle in and could even take up to 3 months to receive. I would pay attention to this forum and would be comforted in knowing that other players were slowly receiving their funds and that I would also eventually receive mine...which I always did. But unlike the Chico Network, NEVER did the Action Network completely STOP paying players. NOBODY has received a cent from this network for a long long time now!

So I'm now wondering how long we should be waiting before taking some sort of action. I'm concerned we are all being slow played and eventually none of us will be paid anyway. Meanwhile, the network continues to accept deposits from all of its sites (skin) while we sit around knowingly allowing it. At some point we need to at least let Chico Network know what our intentions are. And there are only 2 things that will get their attention...

1) Threatening to flood their poker room chat with warnings to everyone playing there that nobody has been paid anything for over several months now (which will likely cut traffic and lessen our chances of being paid even more)

2) Threatening to flood the poker forums and poker news sites that nobody has been paid anything for over several months now (which will likely cut traffic and lessen our chances of being paid even more)

I could be wrong about this and since they owe me less than $500 I'm not about to risk other players' larger balances by going viral about this. But this is something everyone needs to begin forming a clear opinion about.

MALDOROR2007 07-22-2012 03:04 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
I have stopped playing there as well for now. Like you say, we always had to wait a few weeks but in the meantime we could read in the thread that payments were being made on an ongoing basis to people, who like us, would wait a few weeks and eventually always get paid.

Now it seems noone has been getting anything for a while.

blufer123 07-22-2012 06:07 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Paynorake never pay. Site has to pay millions of dollars? They made a fake sale of shares. So players can not claim their rights. Site continues to work to rob deposits of new players. Site accepts money but not pay, this is a pyramid and bankruptcy. Owners are scammers. With the relocation of Curacao avoid prosecution. Site owners have been waiting a moment when you will collect large deposits to deliberately stop paying. It was designed long ago. This is a scam for many millions.

Sufferinsuccotash 07-22-2012 06:34 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blufer123 (Post 33891913)
Paynorake never pay. Site has to pay millions of dollars? They made a fake sale of shares. So players can not claim their rights. Site continues to work to rob deposits of new players. Site accepts money but not pay, this is a pyramid and bankruptcy. Owners are scammers. With the relocation of Curacao avoid prosecution. Site owners have been waiting a moment when you will collect large deposits to deliberately stop paying. It was designed long ago. This is a scam for many millions.

You may very well be correct. But you still haven't offered any proof or even a link to any evidence that supports your allegations. If they made a fake sale of shares then how do you know that? If you want anyone to listen to you then quit talking like an idiot and begin explaining things in an intelligent manner. I can't tell if you actually have some useful information or if you are just trolling and deliberately wasting everyones time here.

evank15 07-22-2012 07:31 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Ugh I have 5k in my account/pending cashout right now. Most I've ever had on the site because I did well in a couple tournaments. Such horrible timing on this.

Reeeeaaaalllly hoping I get my money eventually.

MaybeYesMaybeNo 07-22-2012 07:55 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sufferinsuccotash (Post 33794475)
My strategy is DON'T PLAY 'TIL I GET PAID.

I haven't played for over 5 weeks now and neither have 3 of the 4 friends I've warned. Lucky for them I only have 4 friends lol.

fk that site never playing there.

NuTS_for_NiTS 07-23-2012 02:37 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sufferinsuccotash (Post 33887554)
1) Threatening to flood their poker room chat with warnings to everyone playing there that nobody has been paid anything for over several months now (which will likely cut traffic and lessen our chances of being paid even more)

Does the chat function even work? I'm using software ver. 8.2.2, I've tried talking to players several times and never got a reply. How about you guys?

P.S. Sounds egoistic but do we really want the fish to stop playing and depositing? IMO new deposits are the only way we'll ever see our money.

MALDOROR2007 07-23-2012 04:43 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
That´s the best thing to do if our goal is never to see our money again.

i assume the chat works for me since i received a warning once from PNR.

The hilarious thing is they keep obliviously firing off emails with deposits promotions all the time, even though everyone is sweating a withdrawal for months...

riGGad 07-23-2012 10:36 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
I have over 10k stuck on the site, i talked with Aktionpoker support and asked if they were having a bankrupty. He told me they werent. i asked why only small amount were being payed out ( my friend got his 50$ 2 weeks ago). He couldnt answer me that. my last question was why there was such a delay ? he didnt know why and didnt know when we were getting our money. He gave no information at all, i think they dont have any money and just trying to cover up with the new owner bull****. What can we do guys ? been waiting almost 2 month now.

NuTS_for_NiTS 07-23-2012 12:14 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by riGGad (Post 33901066)
I have over 10k stuck on the site, i talked with Aktionpoker support and asked if they were having a bankrupty. He told me they werent. i asked why only small amount were being payed out ( my friend got his 50$ 2 weeks ago). He couldnt answer me that. my last question was why there was such a delay ? he didnt know why and didnt know when we were getting our money. He gave no information at all, i think they dont have any money and just trying to cover up with the new owner bull****. What can we do guys ? been waiting almost 2 month now.

Live support is absolutely useless. They only give automated answers, no useful information whatsoever. I don't know if they don't have the information or they just refuse to give it out. It doesn't even matter.

Is the company really going down? We can only guess. ATM they aren't paying nobody but people keep playing and the rake keeps flowing. So no, I can't see how they could bankrupt. The worst option is they don't pay and they will not pay people because they don't want to. The best option is that their story about changing the owner, fraud checks etc is true. Not very likely tho.

BTW, what if it turns out that they aren't going to pay... I don't think we can sue them because the Julian International Ltd is a nameless company, no adresses, no names, no nothing, we simply can't find them. One option for us is to sell our claims to somebody who is capable of identifying those people and squuezing the money out of them. I have over $20 000 stuck there so there's no way I'm taking this beat without action.

blufer123 07-23-2012 03:55 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
You did know that rake is great for stocking. The purpose of Paynorake to collect cash deposits from many players and suspend payments. Classical fraud. This is designed more with the creation of the site. Working properly for several years, and when to collect a large cash payments stop. Now the site works because new players make deposits and new site absorb the money,

blufer123 07-23-2012 04:03 PM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sufferinsuccotash (Post 33892298)
You may very well be correct. But you still haven't offered any proof or even a link to any evidence that supports your allegations. If they made a fake sale of shares then how do you know that? If you want anyone to listen to you then quit talking like an idiot and begin explaining things in an intelligent manner. I can't tell if you actually have some useful information or if you are just trolling and deliberately wasting everyones time here.

Where is the money the players? More than two months no payments. Think smart, what more proof do you want?

Sufferinsuccotash 07-24-2012 12:13 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blufer123 (Post 33905925)
Where is the money the players? More than two months no payments. Think smart, what more proof do you want?

Well to start with, how about answering my question...

If they made a fake sale of shares then how do you know that?

VoV 07-24-2012 10:19 AM

re: Waiting x months for money from Paynorake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blufer123 (Post 33891913)
This is a scam for many millions.

There are always people who find conspiracies in everything.

Quote:

Think smart
They are the only ones blessed with knowledge.

Quote:

what more proof do you want?
The rest are blind.


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