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Close to as proven of a bot as I've found on ACR Close to as proven of a bot as I've found on ACR

10-01-2016 , 06:21 PM
Okay, so in a hand on ACR. Have a great video but cant figure out how to post on here. UTG raised from 300 to 700. Villan (stuckpig on ACR) who i have tons of fishy notes on calls raise. I have 1010 so repop it to 1800. Cutoff calls and Button makes massive raise to 6900. Villan calls with 10-7 off-suit out of position to all 3 players. Flop 963, Villan shoves. I call everyone else folds. Turn 8 for nuts. He wins 64k pot.

Look him up on sharkscope and he has an 87 skill which is laughable. ALmost 3k profit so assuming ACR has recently generated him a name.

Let me know thoughts. Daniel Negreanu watched video and agreed it looked fishy and worth looking into. Also let me know if theres a way for me to post video without pokertracker.
10-01-2016 , 06:35 PM
Okay, I dont want to come across as a whiner or anything, but this hand was over-the-top sketchy and wanted to share thoughts. I also have a great video but couldn't figure out how to post videos.

Anyway, UTG raised from 300 to 700. Villan (stuckpig on ACR)calls. I reraise in highjack to 1800. I get called by cutoff. Button reraised large to 6900. Villan flats out of position to all four players with 10-7 offsuit. All players call.

Flop is 963 all offsuit. Villan open shoves like 18k I call. Turns 8 for nuts. GG me.

But looking back at the hand. He did so many odd things, but the call on the 4bet was crazy. I have tons of fishy notes on him like this and I look him up on sharkscope and he has an 87 skill LOL. like 3k profit. Looked very much like a bot account that was made by ACR or something of the sort.

I shared the video with Daniel Negreanu and he immediately commented that it looked extremely fishy and def. worth looking into.

Any thoughts or feedback? Also anyone know how to share the video without pokertracker? I made an actual video off phone.
10-01-2016 , 06:50 PM
It sounds like you're trying to suggest he's a superuser, which seems pretty ridiculous based on one hand, but perhaps I'm missing something.

There's no relationship between a superuser and a bot, so I see zero evidence of this being a bot.
10-01-2016 , 06:53 PM
Where is the proof that Daniel Negreanu watched this video?
10-01-2016 , 06:55 PM
Well then superuser.

THat just seems way beyond bad or fishy play. and it isnt one hand. I said i have tons of sketch notes on him.

But the 87 skill on sharkscope paired with the play tells me alot. He flatted a 4 bet with 107 off for 30% of his chips out of position to 4 players lol
10-01-2016 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Crtaylor8@liberty.
Well then superuser.

THat just seems way beyond bad or fishy play. and it isnt one hand. I said i have tons of sketch notes on him.

But the 87 skill on sharkscope paired with the play tells me alot. He flatted a 4 bet with 107 off for 30% of his chips out of position to 4 players lol
This guy is nowhere near a superuser and just has one bink in a tournament during the MOSS.
10-01-2016 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
It sounds like you're trying to suggest he's a superuser, which seems pretty ridiculous based on one hand, but perhaps I'm missing something.

There's no relationship between a superuser and a bot, so I see zero evidence of this being a bot.
I've been playing online for ten years and have never accused anyone of being a superuser. When i saw this post i was like 'lol', but i came back and read it and that's when i saw 'stuck pig" i was in a large tny on ACR with him last month and noted how bad he was. my friend was over for a sunday session and when an odd hand occured, i showed him the replay and he laughed when he saw it was stuck pig. our notes on him were very similar and he played really bad(we've been full time players for ten years and have seen wild stuff obviously, but this caught our attention) i busted out later on and thought nothing of it. I get a text later that night from my friend telling me StuckPig was at the FT. I couldn't believe it but whatever, loldonkaments. when i saw this post i froze. Somethings not right and i'm 100% sure of it. obviously there's no proof, but it all adds up. I'm sorry if this is all over the place my mind is spinning right now. I will be checking back on this thread and here to answer and questions or anything i can do let me know. I've played professionally for ten years and this is the first time i feel like i was actually cheated after reading op.
10-01-2016 , 07:02 PM
Thanks for the reply. I have also been in multi tourneys and spots with this guys and it is something going on. He is either a mix of the worst and luckiest player ever or something more is going on.
10-01-2016 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dalsue214
This guy is nowhere near a superuser and just has one bink in a tournament during the MOSS.
If you have access to be a superuser, i highly doubt all your cheating would be done on one account. If there is a superuser, they are likely using multiple accounts
10-01-2016 , 07:08 PM
Go to his tweets and replies. My video is there and this is what he said. it's like second on list right now. "@Cliff_Taylor006 seems fishy! Could also be misclick and/or dumping cause he had to leave. Worth looking into"
10-01-2016 , 07:11 PM
Sharkscope says it all, he only has one score in 99 games and it wasn't even a win.
10-01-2016 , 07:14 PM
It was also started months ago by the looks of it. So one score during MOSS from that bad of a player still screams shadiness to me
10-01-2016 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Crtaylor8@liberty.
THat just seems way beyond bad or fishy play. and it isnt one hand. I said i have tons of sketch notes on him.
So I did miss something then - I see know you said you had "fishy notes" which I think I skimmed over as notes that he was a fish.

Anyway, do you have anything beyond notes, like hand histories?

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Originally Posted by Crispy Linetta
Somethings not right and i'm 100% sure of it. obviously there's no proof, but it all adds up.
Isn't there? Do you have hand histories? If so, you guys should compare what you have and put something together with anyone else that agrees.

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Originally Posted by Crtaylor8@liberty.
It was also started months ago by the looks of it. So one score during MOSS from that bad of a player still screams shadiness to me
I'm not really following your logic here.

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Originally Posted by Crtaylor8@liberty.
Go to his tweets and replies. My video is there and this is what he said. it's like second on list right now. "@Cliff_Taylor006 seems fishy! Could also be misclick and/or dumping cause he had to leave. Worth looking into"
I wouldn't get too hung up on proving this to anyone - doesn't really matter what DN does or doesn't think of your single hand history.

Side note - not sure what's up with the double posting, but I removed your duplicate of this post.
10-01-2016 , 08:15 PM
The guy isn't a fish, he's just a shark and you don't really know how to play poker.

Not everyone is a NIT.

Some people can read hand ranges and board textures.

Some people get a little lucky sometimes whilst also using their knowledge of the game and some knowledge of basic frequencies to 'take a chance' on what they think their opponent has (at least from time to time)

He could be a bad player whos getting lucky

He is probably a bad player, who's simply much better than you, but may also be getting lucky.




Not trying to be a dick but its just so clear to see. When I was new, I used to think people who called a lot of 3bets were noobs, for instance.
10-01-2016 , 08:23 PM
It was preflop action lol. He is not a shark, he is a massive fish. If flatting 30% of your stack out of position with 10-7 in at least a 3 way pot is a shark move, then I have no rebuttal.

I have notes with him snap calling 10x shoves with q9 suited against kk and winning.

I'm just not delusional.
10-01-2016 , 08:26 PM
Just realized you're not even talking about "just" a superuser like on Cereus that knows what your hole cards are - it's also your belief that he knows what cards are coming. Seems even more unlikely, but as I said, you should be putting together concerning hand histories and working with anyone who shares your suspicions.
10-01-2016 , 08:52 PM
This "superuser" has lost over 3K in the past month (playing casually a couple days a week), and likely will lose that again in the next month, but no doubt all those heavy losses and minimal volume are just a tricky way to disguise his superusing, because the OP is certainly not delusional on this...
10-01-2016 , 09:07 PM
Can you please just delete this thread. I dont want to argue on here and the guy clearly isnt a super user, just a massive donk that is 1 million times luckier than I am.
10-01-2016 , 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
So I did miss something then - I see know you said you had "fishy notes" which I think I skimmed over as notes that he was a fish.

Anyway, do you have anything beyond notes, like hand histories?


Isn't there? Do you have hand histories? If so, you guys should compare what you have and put something together with anyone else that agrees.


I'm not really following your logic here.


I wouldn't get too hung up on proving this to anyone - doesn't really matter what DN does or doesn't think of your single hand history.

Side note - not sure what's up with the double posting, but I removed your duplicate of this post.
Can you delete this thread. Not in the mood to read anymore. It was apparently the donkest play ever that worked for him. Lucky me.
10-01-2016 , 10:10 PM
Are you positive? After all as you mentioned multiple times - he has a high sharkscope ability. I liked that someone actually considered that as a useful measurement for something.
10-01-2016 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Just realized you're not even talking about "just" a superuser like on Cereus that knows what your hole cards are - it's also your belief that he knows what cards are coming. Seems even more unlikely, but as I said, you should be putting together concerning hand histories and working with anyone who shares your suspicions.
Op said daniel negraneau saw the video and agreed with everything can't get more evidence then that
10-01-2016 , 10:50 PM
Delete thread , played with him. Not a bot.
10-01-2016 , 11:04 PM
I have strong suspicions that my wife is having an affair. I tweeted to Daniel Negreanu for his advice, and will update once I get a response.
10-02-2016 , 04:47 AM
Seriously? You have one hand where a guy gets lucky on you (and thats it). Do you at least have one other hand? And how come this guy isn't winning every tournament.
10-02-2016 , 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by MeleaB
I have strong suspicions that my wife is having an affair. I tweeted to Daniel Negreanu for his advice, and will update once I get a response.
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