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07-31-2014 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cha4zz
Justin, despite the rake being ridiculous for HUSNG's i'm grinding it away at the moment because of the great bonuses that have been offered in order to play on the site and have actually done fairly well pokerwise (probably because i'm yet to be doomswitched for a prolonged period)

1) Does either PT or HEM work on the website? If yes, which one? If no, what can we do to get this working?

2) Is there a contact we could message to support changing the rake? I'm certain you could get a lot more traffic on the network if HU rake was amended, as you can see from this thread. Who could we message to show this?
1)Neither PT or HEM currently support our software. If you wish to get this working then please contact them and we hope they will soon see value in doing it.

2)I have contacted the network directly with request and links to this thread - so they are keeping an eye on it and I will let you know if we have any updates.

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Originally Posted by lvanhoe
What kind of rakeback can you achieve on Yachting on the new network?
The bonus/vip system earns 25% reward and you can make an extra 10% in our weekly 300 challenge (see website for details).

Thanks,

Justin
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07-31-2014 , 11:54 AM
It's just too bad that the maximum rake is €3 for HU cash..making it nearly impossible to win longterm. I tried it for a while but it's just undoable.
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08-05-2014 , 08:52 AM
Justin, can you elaborate why Skrill is not available as deposit or withdrawal option?
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08-05-2014 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 39suited
Justin, can you elaborate why Skrill is not available as deposit or withdrawal option?
Never mind, it is due to the new head of Skrill in Germany that forced quite a few poker sites to pull out.
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08-09-2014 , 11:46 AM
Does anyone have any tips or review about these converters hands that are for sale?
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08-25-2014 , 04:04 PM
Hello!

I want to find some "modded skin" or something like this.
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08-25-2014 , 06:25 PM
can you get and clear the 1200 deposit bonus and the 250 first login bonus at the same time, or they're separate? ty
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08-25-2014 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin.H
if you are in the process of clearing a bonus they are automatically used to do that and no FPP balance is built up. when you are no longer clearing a bonus you will begin to build up a FPP balance and this can be converted in to Cash Bonuses, Tournament Tokens and used for FPP buyin tournaments
So the initial deposit bonus period is just the same as having 25% rakeback, really? It isn't stacked on top of VIP rakeback to add to 50%?
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08-26-2014 , 04:22 AM
Hello All,

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Originally Posted by misirulez88
Hello!

I want to find some "modded skin" or something like this.
We do not recommend trying to do this type of thing as it could lead to issues in the software during the game. Please feel free to post or email any feedback/suggestions that you have about the software

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Originally Posted by jspill
can you get and clear the 1200 deposit bonus and the 250 first login bonus at the same time, or they're separate? ty
Each Bonus is cleared separately at a rate of 25% return. The First login has 30 days to be cleared and would usually be done first and the First Deposit had 90 days to be cleared.

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Originally Posted by jspill
So the initial deposit bonus period is just the same as having 25% rakeback, really? It isn't stacked on top of VIP rakeback to add to 50%?
That is correct - the FPP Points are automatically used to clear the bonus that you have in progress. When you have no bonuses pending you begin to build a FPP balance (that can then be converted as you wish). Note that you do earn VIP points and build up your VIP status while clearing your bonus - this system means you can clear a bonus at a 25% return rate while you build up your VIP status so you can continue to get this 25% return from the higher levels of the VIP system.

Thanks,

Justin
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08-26-2014 , 09:53 AM
thanks
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08-28-2014 , 05:00 PM
Just a warning for anyone thinking about depositing on TheHive network(formerly starlive)

Ever since the new software, things have been weird. Lately traffic has gone pretty low. They've allowed hu and 6max bots and are not interested in getting them banned. Last time i checked the hu tables were 100% bots up to 300nl. Beat a bot? it goes offline and a better one comes back the next day.

Lately they've had a promotions. 365 bonus. Their main skin is planetwin365. Makes sense right?

Well they've been showing affiliates that players have cashed 500+ in bonuses when the player account shows 365(and received 365). So they're stealing a couple hundred euros from every player's rake.

I contacted the manager after not getting any reply for 3 weeks on support. Manager replies instantly. I show proof and explain myself better? no more emails while she's emailing other people i know.

These are obvious tell of a network going into scam mode VERY soon.



stay away
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08-28-2014 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
Just a warning for anyone thinking about depositing on TheHive network(formerly starlive)

Ever since the new software, things have been weird. Lately traffic has gone pretty low. They've allowed hu and 6max bots and are not interested in getting them banned. Last time i checked the hu tables were 100% bots up to 300nl. Beat a bot? it goes offline and a better one comes back the next day.

Lately they've had a promotions. 365 bonus. Their main skin is planetwin365. Makes sense right?

Well they've been showing affiliates that players have cashed 500+ in bonuses when the player account shows 365(and received 365). So they're stealing a couple hundred euros from every player's rake.

I contacted the manager after not getting any reply for 3 weeks on support. Manager replies instantly. I show proof and explain myself better? no more emails while she's emailing other people i know.

These are obvious tell of a network going into scam mode VERY soon.



stay away
Very solid post. Thanks for the heads up.
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08-28-2014 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
Last time i checked the hu tables were 100% bots up to 300nl. Beat a bot? it goes offline and a better one comes back the next day.
Can't really confirm this but feel free to provide evidence.
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08-28-2014 , 07:31 PM
How many hu players do you know play 24hrs a day , sit anyone from 25 to 300nl , take 5-10 secs on every decision MINIMUM and chk back twice and bet/fold river to any sizing almost once every 5 hands (this worked for 3 days against most of them)

None of them ever adjusted to my 5x to 10x pf raise etc etc. They are bots. You cant even get them to multitable you unless you sit them at every stake.

I heard some are gone but 6max still has tons of bots. Those 6max bots only play 6 tables and 25 and 50nl
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08-29-2014 , 04:28 AM
Hi All,

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Originally Posted by ...|...
Just a warning for anyone thinking about depositing on TheHive network(formerly starlive)

Ever since the new software, things have been weird. Lately traffic has gone pretty low. They've allowed hu and 6max bots and are not interested in getting them banned. Last time i checked the hu tables were 100% bots up to 300nl. Beat a bot? it goes offline and a better one comes back the next day.

Lately they've had a promotions. 365 bonus. Their main skin is planetwin365. Makes sense right?

Well they've been showing affiliates that players have cashed 500+ in bonuses when the player account shows 365(and received 365). So they're stealing a couple hundred euros from every player's rake.

I contacted the manager after not getting any reply for 3 weeks on support. Manager replies instantly. I show proof and explain myself better? no more emails while she's emailing other people i know.

These are obvious tell of a network going into scam mode VERY soon.



stay away
Firstly this is a Yachting Poker thread, so I can't really comment on the activity of other partners on the Network. I can confirm that on the Yachting Poker system and the Yachting/B3W Affiliate BackOffice the figures the affiliates see match exactly with the activity on the player accounts. We routinely provide Affiliates with detailed player by player revenue and costs taken directly from the Poker BackOffice and these always agree with the revenue/cost/commission that the affiliate sees reported in the B3W Affiliate System.

It is feasible that the 'Bonus' cost you see includes other aspects beyond the initial 365 First Login Bonus (i.e. SnG Leaderboard, 300 Challenge, VIP system conversions) but this is something you will need to confirm with them directly.

With regards to Network Player numbers, these have gone down in August due to the summer vacation period in some of the network's core markets. I can happily say that this time is coming to an end and we have been seeing a pick up in player numbers this week.

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Originally Posted by ...|...
How many hu players do you know play 24hrs a day , sit anyone from 25 to 300nl , take 5-10 secs on every decision MINIMUM and chk back twice and bet/fold river to any sizing almost once every 5 hands (this worked for 3 days against most of them)

None of them ever adjusted to my 5x to 10x pf raise etc etc. They are bots. You cant even get them to multitable you unless you sit them at every stake.

I heard some are gone but 6max still has tons of bots. Those 6max bots only play 6 tables and 25 and 50nl
Please PM a list of players that you suspect are Bots - I will make sure this is investigated further and all aspects of the player history, session time, action time, click speed etc. are reviewed and the required action is taken. Yachting Poker does not want to be part of a Network with Bots.

Many Thanks,

Justin
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08-29-2014 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
How many hu players do you know play 24hrs a day , sit anyone from 25 to 300nl , take 5-10 secs on every decision MINIMUM and chk back twice and bet/fold river to any sizing almost once every 5 hands (this worked for 3 days against most of them)

None of them ever adjusted to my 5x to 10x pf raise etc etc. They are bots. You cant even get them to multitable you unless you sit them at every stake.
None of the above was the case when I played HU cash, so your "100% claim" seems to be incorrect. Some of the Italian fish even proudly showed their bluff.
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08-29-2014 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by misirulez88
Hello!

I want to find some "modded skin" or something like this.
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Originally Posted by Justin.H
Hello All,

We do not recommend trying to do this type of thing as it could lead to issues in the software during the game. Please feel free to post or email any feedback/suggestions that you have about the software

Justin


this is how different stars looks to yachting. some kind of modding or different theme should be done. when playing 6 ables its fine, but trying 9 tables omaha is just a mess. fixed betting buttons are not to see and also the stacksizes arent 100% visiable, same with holecards too. also i tried to arrange tables with placemint automatically but then the tables have black spots all over. so the only option is to do it for each table seperat and to get the same result, i need 10 min.
Spoiler:
not realy 10 min, but you know what i try to say
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08-29-2014 , 07:21 PM
i wouldnt really complain. The software looks 10x better on yatching compared to the rest of the network..

its a shame because the old network had an amazing software. Better than stars imo.


Btw the network finaly replied to me because they saw my post here. Took a public post to get a reponse.
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08-29-2014 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
Btw the network finaly replied to me because they saw my post here. Took a public post to get a reponse.
Interested to hear what their conclusion was since I also play HU there when I got some time to kill. Feel free to PM me.
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08-29-2014 , 09:00 PM
The decision was to avoid answering anything regarding the 200 euro stolen and to give me an ultimatum on questions that have nothing to do with what im trying to resolve with them.
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08-30-2014 , 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
i wouldnt really complain. The software looks 10x better on yatching compared to the rest of the network..

its a shame because the old network had an amazing software. Better than stars imo.


Btw the network finaly replied to me because they saw my post here. Took a public post to get a reponse.
yeah its cool that u wouldnt complain. but im not u. i dont care about ur issues or what else u have to say tbh. i also have no time machine to play on the old yachting software.
all i made was a post that shows that i have trouble playing 7+ tables on yachting cause the table minimize the btns, cards and stacks to much.
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08-30-2014 , 07:46 AM
I got an other email and this one is pretty aggressive.


So let me recap this for you

- you could have sent an internal message by logging into the account and you haven't.

First off im an idiot because their support page is not working for me or my affiliate. Emails are appenrently not received and i should of known this and found a way to get a real email address instead of using the link from the software.

my favorite part of the email

"- you went on 2+2 lying about bots because you are stupid and could not communicate properly."

This is hilarious when you have access to bots forum they have explicit approval by thehive network to test their bots there. Oh and i have tons of data from 2months ago on the bots. I found a way to datamine and have enough hands on them to prove it.

Again… delete that post, you know it's not the right way to behave.

the rest of the email is them talking about me using someone else's account(brand new account, only me using it) Yet they know a lot of people do this because they dont want to deposit themselves on the network. Just trying to find a way to be right and save the 200 euro they stole.

You surely are at fault but the idiot that gave you the account is playing a big part here too, so the extra bonus money is quite possibly something received by whoever was using the account before you.


Yes!! a brand new account with a 365 euro bonus during the exact period i played IS leftover from an account that didn't exist before.

it ends like this

I shall not comment any further.
I will communicate with the fraud department which will probably close the account until the owner of the account will contact them in the ways suggested.

(yet received an other email right after)

Network is pure scam. Financial trouble for sure.
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08-30-2014 , 07:48 AM


heres the backend
2270 raked 571 bonus cleared - 365 received though.

really happy i moved to stars. Me and people i know went from winning at 100-200+ to barely breaking even at lower stakes on that network and the games have not gotten harder outside of bots.. yet win @ high winrate on stars with millions of regs
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08-30-2014 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ...|...
Network is pure scam. Financial trouble for sure.
Payment processor Skrill is not available anymore!
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08-30-2014 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sirin
Hi Justin,

I would potentially be interested in playing on your site but am wary of smaller, untested networks. What assurances can you give me about the security of your site?

Are you subject to any regulation or oversight?
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Originally Posted by Justin.H
Yachting Poker is licensed by the Lotteries and Gaming Authority (LGA) of Malta.
Casino is operated by Gantor International Ltd. under Licence LGA/CL1/390/2007 effective date 09.07.2009
Poker is licensed by Startech Media N.V., Curacao, under Master Gaming Licence #5536/JAZ.

I can assure you that all player balances are kept in a segregated account so your money will be safe no matter what happens.
Yachting Casino is licensed by the Lotteries and Gaming Authority (LGA) of Malta, not Yachting Poker!


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Originally Posted by sirin
Thanks for the reply. When you say you can assure me that all player funds are segregated, is there any way to verify this?
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Originally Posted by Justin.H
As the other user correctly said - we can not disclose bank account information in the public domain. The LGA of Malta actively enforce this practice and we provide them with Monthly proof that these funds are held separately and available.
I can´t see why the LGA of Malta should actively enforce wether Yachting Poker account balances are segregated or not, although Yachting Poker is licensed in Curacao and not in Malta?


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Originally Posted by Justin.H
Hi All,

I can confirm that we keep the player balances completely separated and have to provide monthly proof to our regulators that we have the funds in a ring fenced account to cover all current player balances
Your Yachting Poker license from Curacao is for poker players worthless, as it includes a "deposit-only" permission and I´m pretty sure that they definetely do not control monthly wether you have the funds in a ring fenced account or not!

See Lock, Wincake, Muchos Poker, etc., all licensed by the Curacao eGaming Licensing Authority!

But feel free to show us the documents confirming that you have to provide monthly proof?

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