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06-09-2017 , 01:31 PM
If he didn't update his hm2/PT4 he still can play with stats (at least on regular tables)

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06-09-2017 , 01:35 PM
You need to install the older version of HM2 although I think any new stats may be skewed because it only saves hands you take part in now.

Fozzy posted a link in the HM support thread in reply to one of my posts about a week or two ago if you're interested.
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06-09-2017 , 01:43 PM
I do have older version of HEM. Thing is no hero hand histories aren't (supposedly) saved which means players stats should be completely messed up while he had 23% vpip regs.

EDIT: I think MPN messed something up. All villains stats seems correct while my stats are completely wrong.


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06-09-2017 , 03:54 PM
Playing session right now. Villans stats are correct and hero's aren't. Very strange. I was playing one or two days after update and that's not how it worked back then so something must've been changed.
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06-09-2017 , 07:44 PM
It was better when HUD didn't work. At least you haven't seen that loosest player at the PLO20 table is 25% vpip.

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06-09-2017 , 10:08 PM
Recently when MPN tried to update the client it completely froze my computer. (In a kernel panic way, not even mouse cursor was moving.) Today same crash after I had ran MPN client for a while. Anyone else having the same issue? Running on Macbook Pro + Windows 7.
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06-09-2017 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg20
Playing session right now. Villans stats are correct and hero's aren't. Very strange. I was playing one or two days after update and that's not how it worked back then so something must've been changed.
How do you know villain's stats are correct? The way I see it, they will simply look closer to ther real stats than hero's stats, but they won't exactly be correct, they will just look more realistic.
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06-10-2017 , 02:36 AM
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06-10-2017 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by IsaacAsimov
How do you know villain's stats are correct? The way I see it, they will simply look closer to ther real stats than hero's stats, but they won't exactly be correct, they will just look more realistic.
If no hero hand histories wouldn't be saved then players stats would be something like 60/50 or so and that's how stats looked first few days after changes.
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06-10-2017 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg20
If no hero hand histories wouldn't be saved then players stats would be something like 60/50 or so and that's how stats looked first few days after changes.
Can you please rephrase that. I'm not sure what you are trying to say. Are you saying you think that when we fold without contributing to the pot the hand is still tracked?
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06-10-2017 , 10:34 AM
Well, I don't think it's fully tracked like it was because it's not shown in HEM but stats are correct.

Villain stats before changes


Villain stats after changes
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06-10-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg20
Well, I don't think it's fully tracked like it was because it's not shown in HEM but stats are correct.

Villain stats before changes


Villain stats after changes
According to APerfect10 on the PT4 forums, villain's preflop stats are accurate, but the postflop stats are skewed:

https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/...art=10#p337951

When in doubt, I would go with what the developers say. The cost of misinterpreting data is potentially quite high. Intuitively I would agree with APerfect10's assessment that there is some skew in postflop involved. I'm just not sure whether the skew is actually a bad thing. If villain's postflop stats are skewed to how villain plays when we put money in the pot, then I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. To me it seems like those are just then vs hero stats. I need to sleep on this, and think about it some more tomorrow. Perhaps ask APerfect10 to elaborate.
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06-11-2017 , 12:21 PM
Sorry if this has been discussed. From the last page or so I can see that HUD's don't seem to work correctly due to the way HH are saved.
If you only wanted to use PT/HM for general accounting (graphs etc) and reviewing, would it work?
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06-11-2017 , 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DublinMeUp
Sorry if this has been discussed. From the last page or so I can see that HUD's don't seem to work correctly due to the way HH are saved.
If you only wanted to use PT/HM for general accounting (graphs etc) and reviewing, would it work?
Win/loss is accurate. You can review the hands you've played. I think your postflop stats should also be correct, but your preflop stats are wrong, because it assumes too much VPIP.
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06-11-2017 , 11:04 PM
Cool, appreciate the answer man.
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06-13-2017 , 02:01 PM
Anyone know who current player CalaaBoca is in real life? Changes SN every couple days, used to be ConchadelaLora or something
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06-24-2017 , 02:54 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm new in this MPN and playing mostly blaze 10NL.. anyone knows how to fold and watch the hand in Blaze?

Thanks..
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06-24-2017 , 03:27 PM
You cant. And you dont see the hand history if you fold and others play it out either. And after this canon promotion it stops running above NL2.
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06-25-2017 , 10:18 AM
Is it possible to play MTTs from mobile ?
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06-26-2017 , 08:59 AM
I don't know if anyone noticed or cares, but what was happening in yesterday's main event of MPN tournament series Festival of Speed was total farce.

The tournament was €22 buyin, €10k GTD superturbo with 3 minute levels, with blind increase stopping in less then 1/2 hour on blinds 640/1280 chips. Starting stack was 5k.

The play was expectably fast, people busting all the time. Around 300 people were registered when it reached the bubble phase (36 payouts, later increased to 42) where the fishy stuff started happening. Every hand, when few people busted, almost exactly same ammount of new accounts entered - weird names, weird locations etc. It felt incredibly fishy, with the strucure - 2 hours late reg in this kind of superturbo, why exactly ?

I have played in few live local GTD tourneys where organisers pulled a classic scam of taking people off the street to enter their uncollected GTD tournament as freeroll for them, but online it is unparalleled. What should have been a quick turbo tournament for solid prizes was prolonged for almost 30-40 minutes on the bubble by constant, steady registering of new accounts (from ~320 to almost 400 entrants) all few places before the bubble in online uncollected GTD tournament with weird structure. I was feeling cheated as my equity in tournament constantly decreased and they were flipping their 3,5bb stacks.

How is it possible to have such tournament, where one can register one place before the bubble and get ITM without playing a hand ? It was totally absurd and I was half expecting some bug that would allow new players still after bubble bursted, but luckily somehow it happened with around 400 registrants when more people busted than registered, and new players couldn't enter anymore after that.

Anyway maybe it is my paranoid rant, but it was feeling incredibly unjust and rigged. I am a cash player that fires some MTTs ocassionally, but after this I know I won't be paying a single € in buyins on MPN Guaranteed tournaments.
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06-27-2017 , 05:07 AM
Thank god they made those changes a few month back. While i was skeptical in the beginning, but I can now finally see that the network is truly blooming and traffic seems to hit new highs everyday. What a time to be alive!
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06-27-2017 , 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by imfromsweden
Thank god they made those changes a few month back. While i was skeptical in the beginning, but I can now finally see that the network is truly blooming and traffic seems to hit new highs everyday. What a time to be alive!
What skin do you recommend playing on?
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06-27-2017 , 07:56 AM
He was just being sarcastic.
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06-27-2017 , 09:21 PM
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He was just being sarcastic.
It's kinda sad to see this because before the HH change, MPN was really growing up in traffic and became a serious competitor again.
I play CG only so I don't know if they also made changes that made MTT players run away, but knowing how reactive MPN usually is, I'm kinda surprised they don't try to reverse the changes that hurted them so badly recently.

I play on MPN almost only and I really enjoy this network but I'm afraid they could indeed go the same way than BossMedia/Ongame if traffic keeps going downhill.
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06-28-2017 , 01:29 AM
You need to look at year on year though, because the downward trend is somewhat normal around the summer months I believe. That being said, it does look like traffic is down.
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