That doesn't make sense. They could just run ads everywhere seeking those people and making some sort of offer for free. They would likely have the exact same success rate doing it that way as they would buying a dirty shell. If they DID buy it, then they would be potentially liable for any incoming lawsuits.

Only an idiot would purchase the dirty shell.

Several people itt know his identity, and are aware that it's very likely he had ties with the company's management. I could be wrong on this, but I don't think there's a whole lot of definitive evidence that he was involved in any wrongdoing.

There's a whole thread about it over at Poker Fraud Alert.

Who are the affiliates?

Who are the poker sites?

Do you now own the software?

It looks like it's actually just Kahn/ProfessionalRakeback. He's trying to help the people who signed up to FF thru his website.

By giving them their money back that he'll make as an affiliate.

after that he gets to make money off of these people.



shady stuff

All I can say is that he did do me a favor by setting up the rake race which gives me the opportunity to recover FFP funds.

I was a client of Khan's playing on a different site. He offered a rake race to me with no further stipulations to recover my FFP balance. I had been playing on this other site since Aug of 2015 anyway as I had concerns about FFP and had a large balance.

I understand that as an affiliate Khan gets a % of my rake from the site. This had been happening since Aug 15 anyway. Since Nov 16' he has been paying me $x/mo for hitting different rake numbers. I have not changed sites or signed up for anything new. I have just continued to play on the same site that I have played for the last year and a half but now with rakeback. Can you see how this is purely a benefit for me and how it can be seen as a good faith effort by Khan? If he didn't offer this to me I would have been playing anyway and he would be collecting 100% of his affiliate cut instead of 100%-x.

RE: twisty/Mevyn

If this is the same sort of deal as I have(I DK; do your own research), then yeah the affiliates will probably make money from you, but you will make money from them too. I don't see how this isn't win-win. If you still are gonna play online poker, why not recover your FFP money via rakeback?

Madmansam, i hear you sir.

maybe we're all just biased towards Kahn
But i try to see things cut and dry and it seems to me Kahn was in the inner Full Flush circle and knew everything.
He also knows a lot more than he will tell us.


They say the 'Cover Up' is worse than the crime.

Kahn is the new owner of fullflushpoker.com

In the final paragraph on the front page, he snuck a hidden link on the words "poker sites"

And that link goes to his professionalrakeback site.

This piece of trash is still trying to profit from other people's victimhood.

Another Doug Polk HU course colluder?

can we confirm Bizingo's AKA ?

Yes it is confirmed that Bizingo is Tai Lopez playing from his mansion using his 3 steps while driving his Lamborghini and reading 1 book per session.

Silence from kahn is defeaning.

Come on kahn, let's hear all you know about the Full Flush owners who supposedly screwed you over so badly...

Also time to admit that you are the new owner of fullflushpoker.com

He responded to me on Twitter regarding this:

https://twitter.com/ProfRBcom/status/843949207199408128

Has anyone submitted a claim through that link?

I did and heard nothing back so far

Hello, I m a professional NLH player since 5 years; I was a victim of Full Flush fiasco too, but fortunately Khan contacted me and he offered a bonus on an other room where I was already playing on.
He gave me this chance and in 1 month I recovered my $ losts on Full Flush, was not a big ammount but now I have my 500$ back and saved again.

I never expected something like that from an affiliate so I ve appreciated a lot what he did for me.

I m really happy for this.

Am I ignorant or missing something here? You can get affiliated-sponsored rakeback at any number of sites, right? So why does this count as getting-back-your-fullflush-money rakeback?

Let's say Bill Gates had a Full Flush account, and lost 1K. Then I bought a 1K IBM laptop. Could I say, "I'm just buying a computer you were going to make and sell anyway, so we'll just call this purchase getting your Full Flush money back."

Seemed obvious to me that it's either rakeback at a site where you can't get it, or rakeback at a higher rate than you'd normally get. Otherwise, yeah, that's not getting your money back.

Read the bold in the quoted post directly above your post.

Exactly.

So full flush was bought out? I am confused. It has new owners or its bankrupt?

Neither of your either / or choices is correct to my knowledge. AFAIK the companies that comprised Full Flush Poker and the Equity Poker Network still exist. Also, AFAIK none of those companies have declared bankruptcy.

The odds of any of those companies having any money in them worth going after is slim and none. The URL Full Flush Poker used was sold at auction.

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Kahn

Ya know guys, i loved and wanted FF to succeed, i really did.

Clearly the whole thing's over. the owners are gone. no one is getting any money from them.

peace and love

Something is too bad for our players

There is no reason to file for bankruptcy. They are not trying to re-organize nor is there a penny left to pay out creditors. You file bankruptcy to legally close out a business. All the financial records are shown to the court and then the court divides it up among the creditors.

There is a better chance that Santa Claus delivers the Hanukkah presents next Ramadan than a penny being disbursed to players on FF.

I agree with your statements. I only mentioned bankruptcy because the poster I was responding to had asked about it. Your clarification is important though... there would be zero reason for them to file for bankruptcy if they are out of assets and simply stiffing all creditors (players, software providers, affiliates, staff, etc).

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Kahn