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Old 11-23-2013, 09:23 PM   #126
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Re: *** Unofficial Equity Poker Network Thread ***

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Archer was previously the CEO at the Action Poker Network, and the CEO of BetOnline. Action Poker Network was later renamed Chico Poker Network. Players on the US-facing network have faced payment problems over the last two years due to extended legal disputes following its acquisition by Julian International Holdings.
So basically you have no proof of anything and are just spewing hear say and assumed information?

I will agree that NO ONE should sign up for the Full Flush skin, but only because it's VIP system seems to be the worst on the network. I'm stuck there for 60 days it seems (according to Sandy), but I refuse to deposit.
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Old 11-24-2013, 12:33 AM   #127
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Archer was previously the CEO at the Action Poker Network, and the CEO of BetOnline. Action Poker Network was later renamed Chico Poker Network. Players on the US-facing network have faced payment problems over the last two years due to extended legal disputes following its acquisition by Julian International Holdings.
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So basically you have no proof of anything and are just spewing hear say and assumed information?

I will agree that NO ONE should sign up for the Full Flush skin, but only because it's VIP system seems to be the worst on the network. I'm stuck there for 60 days it seems (according to Sandy), but I refuse to deposit.
Its 100% true what he's saying and easily confirmed with a simple google search. Want even more details about him add Betonsports in that search. If you're going to play here, I'd go with either Heritage or 5 dimes who are separate companies with their own cashier's so if something does go down you can be confidant you will get paid. It no different than the Revolution/Intertops situation. Personally I feel comfortable with a large balance at Tops and feel the same about 5 dimes or Heritage.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:00 AM   #128
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He left BO before they had online poker tho. Chico also resolved the issue with outstanding payouts and has been sending them out since july. It won't affect EPN either way since they are separate entities sharing the same software.

I chose the Integer skin for the variback scheme, it helps those of us who play SNG/MTT extensively. FullFlush isn't offering much but is also the face of the network. 5dimes you can definitely trust !
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Old 11-24-2013, 04:14 AM   #129
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can someone explain why when I go to play online at 5dimes it is still the winning poker software and player pool? thought it was establish they use equity now...
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Old 11-24-2013, 04:55 AM   #130
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So why even have skins then?
Having to ask this question puzzles me. I would imagine it's for the same reason they have skins on any other network; different people want to start their own online poker sites, and the network would like to have more partners bringing in players.

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This is a ridiculous and failed business model that no longer applies to online poker.
Where has it failed? Serious question; it's entirely possible that it has failed somewhere and I'm forgetting and/or not seeing the parallel business model.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:47 AM   #131
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So why even have skins then? This is a ridiculous and failed business model that no longer applies to online poker.
You should look more into the EPN business model. The network is managed by a cooperative formed by the network Operators. This model has never been applied to online poker in the past.

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Having to ask this question puzzles me. I would imagine it's for the same reason they have skins on any other network; different people want to start their own online poker sites, and the network would like to have more partners bringing in players.

Where has it failed? Serious question; it's entirely possible that it has failed somewhere and I'm forgetting and/or not seeing the parallel business model.
The only business model that has proven to fail over and over again is sites offering insane bonuses and cash back rewards to their players just to get a few more sign ups. Those are the business models that have proven to fail on the long run and more seasoned players should have smartened up to that by now.

This is one f the reasons why we're somewhat amazed that one of the operators has decided to offer 50% cash back. This clearly shows that said operator doesn't care if their room succeeds or not. Their main source of income comes from sport betting and not poker and therefore those sites will do little to nothing to bring liquidity to the network or to contribute to a healthy environment.

IntegerPoker and the flagship room have both decided to take a different approach which falls in line with the network philosophy in order to create a balanced poker network with a healthy eco-system.

-IntegrPoker CS, Sandy
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Old 11-24-2013, 02:58 PM   #132
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The only business model that has proven to fail over and over again is sites offering insane bonuses and cash back rewards to their players just to get a few more sign ups. Those are the business models that have proven to fail on the long run and more seasoned players should have smartened up to that by now.

This is one f the reasons why we're somewhat amazed that one of the operators has decided to offer 50% cash back. This clearly shows that said operator doesn't care if their room succeeds or not. Their main source of income comes from sport betting and not poker and therefore those sites will do little to nothing to bring liquidity to the network or to contribute to a healthy environment.

IntegerPoker and the flagship room have both decided to take a different approach which falls in line with the network philosophy in order to create a balanced poker network with a healthy eco-system.

-IntegrPoker CS, Sandy
You need to take into consideration that currently Equity is charging the highest rake for sitngos in the industry. A 10% rake for $1 games is beatable because the players on that level are so bad. But as the buy-ins increase the games become more and more unbeatable. The superturbos especially are completely unbeatable since players play those for such thin profit margins. Joining a skin that offers 50% rakeback is the only way that sitngo players can currently survive on Equity.

I think that the melding of online sportsbetting and poker in the ownerships in the US market has severely damaged the US market. But sportsbetting as just a skin isn't necessarily such a bad thing because they bring fishier players to the network which can help the network's liquidity. My first choice would be to get sportsbetting out of the online poker industry entirely but as long as the sportsbooks don't start calling the shots at Equity, they can be an asset.
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:15 PM   #133
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This is one f the reasons why we're somewhat amazed that one of the operators has decided to offer 50% cash back. This clearly shows that said operator doesn't care if their room succeeds or not. Their main source of income comes from sport betting and not poker and therefore those sites will do little to nothing to bring liquidity to the network or to contribute to a healthy environment.
Its because they have stacks of cash and its only an added service for their players. I have no idea who is behind Interpoker but at least if said sportsbook with great track record fails(on this network) you can count on your $ being returned. It seems like a no brainer to go with higher rewards and safety of funds than to take a bigger risk on an unknown operator with less rewards. Sounds like you should be going after less informed players and letting the big dogs worry about the shark tax.
Def couldn't agree more with new rooms like you offering less in rewards and you seem to have a successful business plan in place.
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:26 PM   #134
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So if you want to offer bad rewards why even bother coming to 2+2? None of us are gonna play on your skin with bad rewards when there are other skins with good rewards..... You're marketing to the wrong crowd...
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:10 PM   #135
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Re: *** Unofficial Equity Poker Network Thread ***

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So if you want to offer bad rewards why even bother coming to 2+2? None of us are gonna play on your skin with bad rewards when there are other skins with good rewards..... You're marketing to the wrong
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Maybe you should take the time to do the maths on adding up the different rewards offered by the two premier skins of the network before calling them "bad rewards".
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:17 PM   #136
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can someone explain why when I go to play online at 5dimes it is still the winning poker software and player pool? thought it was establish they use equity now...
http://5dimes.eu/pokerintro.html

they are on both networks
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:12 PM   #137
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Maybe you should take the time to do the maths on adding up the different rewards offered by the two premier skins of the network before calling them "bad rewards".
Feel free to explain to me how Full Flush has "good" rewards. Maybe I missed something?
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Old 11-25-2013, 12:20 AM   #138
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Can anyone confirmed theyve Cashouts on FullFlush yet? Howd u get paid, etc.
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Old 11-25-2013, 04:34 AM   #139
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Re: *** Unofficial Equity Poker Network Thread ***

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You're marketing to the wrong crowd...
They're not marketing; they're offering support.

But if they chose to market here, no, it's not the wrong crowd at all. The people who post looking for the best deal they can get are not the entire 2+2 demographic, and we have sites that clearly do not strive to compete on the basis of rewards yet choose to spend money advertising here on a continual basis.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:18 PM   #140
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Re: *** Unofficial Equity Poker Network Thread ***

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http://5dimes.eu/pokerintro.html

they are on both networks
What does this mean exactly?

Do players have to choose 1 or the other, or if you are on 1 are you on both??

I see they have the 'shark tank' option and the 'open waters' option. Is the 'open waters' a bigger player pool?
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:21 AM   #141
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Just read what it says. They have a skin on EPN and also WPN, with the latter having most traffic (for now). I'm sure you can have an account on both.
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Old 12-06-2013, 04:19 AM   #142
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Sooo.. are there any cashout stories we can hear about ?
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Old 12-08-2013, 03:43 AM   #143
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I won $180 in one of the sunday freerolls in October, was sent it in 2 days via MG with NO FEE whatsoever..won $180 received $180
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:08 AM   #144
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Is there a Full Flush (Equity) "official" thread on 2p2?
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Old 12-23-2013, 10:00 PM   #145
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I"m about to do my first cashout with equity.. will tell u guys how it goes.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:01 AM   #146
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Re: *** Unofficial Equity Poker Network Thread ***

I swear I've suffered more coolers on this network in a week then in my entire time on PS/FT (obvious exaggeration) to the point where I've gotten legitimately paranoid to play on the site. And this is coming from a guy who used to play 3k-5k hands a day on the big two.

Yes, I'm giving you all permission to call me stupid
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Old 12-26-2013, 06:59 PM   #147
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I could be stupid too. I started a few days ago and got the same weird feeling about it.


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I swear I've suffered more coolers on this network in a week then in my entire time on PS/FT (obvious exaggeration) to the point where I've gotten legitimately paranoid to play on the site. And this is coming from a guy who used to play 3k-5k hands a day on the big two.

Yes, I'm giving you all permission to call me stupid
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Old 12-27-2013, 09:24 PM   #148
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Re: *** Unofficial Equity Poker Network Thread ***

On another note does Equity not add rebuys and add-ons to the tourney prize pool? That's not standard practice is it?
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Old 12-29-2013, 06:33 PM   #149
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I"m about to do my first cashout with equity.. will tell u guys how it goes.


Any update here?
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Old 12-30-2013, 12:05 AM   #150
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Have already done 2 cashouts on Full Flush via WU... had cash in hand in less than a week both times - no issues.
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