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02-12-2014 , 05:04 PM
Not sure what he is looking for exactly. Be a little more specific I will see what I can do.
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02-12-2014 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoPolo
The stories I've heard/read come from an affiliate, who if I posted, would get snap deleted. I'm sure you can figure out why that might be if you've done any amount of homework.

Regardless, you have an individual on this forum, who posted having their account closed. Maybe Steel could share more of his story.
You've essentially been trolling this thread with vague accusations. You tell players to be wary of Equity because Clive Archer is the founder without telling us what it is you think he did at BetOnline that was shady. Now you tell us that the network is banning people and taking their money for no reason, without providing any evidence.

All online sites ban players for security reasons and then very often reinstate those players once they are satisfied that everything is on the up and up. The entire online poker industry has a better safe than sorry policy towards their players. If Equity were doing something out of the ordinary, this thread would be flooded with players protesting. That hasn't happened; all we have is your say so and your need to look outside of 2+2 to find any evidence.

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Originally Posted by Steel-O
Not sure what he is looking for exactly. Be a little more specific I will see what I can do.
What was the reason for them banning you? And were you reinstated?
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02-12-2014 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
You've essentially been trolling this thread with vague accusations. You tell players to be wary of Equity because Clive Archer is the founder without telling us what it is you think he did at BetOnline that was shady. Now you tell us that the network is banning people and taking their money for no reason, without providing any evidence.

All online sites ban players for security reasons and then very often reinstate those players once they are satisfied that everything is on the up and up. The entire online poker industry has a better safe than sorry policy towards their players. If Equity were doing something out of the ordinary, this thread would be flooded with players protesting. That hasn't happened; all we have is your say so and your need to look outside of 2+2 to find any evidence.


What was the reason for them banning you? And were you reinstated?
Yet there is a player, in this thread, who all but stated his account was closed and funds confiscated.

My initial post was nothing more than a followup to his, stating people should be careful because I have reason to believe he is not alone. Believe what you'd like, this is an unofficial thread and I don't think passing concerns along is unwarranted.
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02-12-2014 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoPolo
Yet there is a player, in this thread, who all but stated his account was closed and funds confiscated.

My initial post was nothing more than a followup to his, stating people should be careful because I have reason to believe he is not alone. Believe what you'd like, this is an unofficial thread and I don't think passing concerns along is unwarranted.
You can find similar posts of players being banned for every single online poker site discussed here on 2+2.
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02-12-2014 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
You can find similar posts of players being banned for every single online poker site discussed here on 2+2.
Sure, but I'm sure you could see the difference in a player getting banned from a site with a good track record and one with basically no history?
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02-12-2014 , 06:42 PM
The only thing Marko is saying is to be careful. Everyone can make their own decisions.

However, I have been in touch with multiple affiliates who all have had a bunch of players being banned and money confiscated based on bs reasons and lies. Just like myself. All parties involved are still communicating and trying to come to a solution. But so far this Clive Archer guy seems to be a scam artist with Borderline Personality Disorder. It's crazy how much a person can lie.

I'm not going to recommend anyone anything. I can only give you my story and share the information I have. Just please be careful.
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02-12-2014 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SantaCruz
What was the reason for them banning you? And were you reinstated?
The made up reason why my account has been banned: After reviewing a relevant amount of game history we have confirmed that your account is involved in collusion.
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02-12-2014 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkoPolo
The stories I've heard/read come from an affiliate, who if I posted, would get snap deleted. I'm sure you can figure out why that might be if you've done any amount of homework.

And I'm sure that if you focused on helping rather than being a jackass, information that was helpful to the community would proliferate instead of staying in some unknown place that you're willing to post snarky comments about, but too lazy to copy/paste an example from...


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02-12-2014 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Steel-O
The only thing Marko is saying is to be careful. Everyone can make their own decisions.

However, I have been in touch with multiple affiliates who all have had a bunch of players being banned and money confiscated based on bs reasons and lies.

I've talked to one of their most active affiliates and to date, only one of their players has had funds confiscated... Perhaps these other affiliates will step forth and share their experiences with the community if you ask them nicely?

I'd very much like to hear these accounts so that if this network is stealing from players, we can spread the word far and wide and keep as many people from being hurt as possible.

However, if only vague stories of "I know a guy who knows a guy who has a cousin..." type stories are portrayed here, it's difficult to take what is said at face value.

Please help by contributing, or bring people here with first hand knowledge that can contribute, to the active information in this thread.




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02-12-2014 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
And I'm sure that if you focused on helping rather than being a jackass, information that was helpful to the community would proliferate instead of staying in some unknown place that you're willing to post snarky comments about, but too lazy to copy/paste an example from...


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It's not me being to lazy to copy and paste. You're welcome to PM me if you'd like to know what I'm referring to and I'll accept your apology after.

I came here to post as a warning, nothing more. I don't have a skin in the game and am not involved, so anything I post should be taken with that grain of salt. However, I happen to gather some information I thought was concerning and Steel basically echoed what I had heard. I 100% wouldn't have posted if he had not.
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02-12-2014 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
I've talked to one of their most active affiliates and to date, only one of their players has had funds confiscated... Perhaps these other affiliates will step forth and share their experiences with the community if you ask them nicely?

I'd very much like to hear these accounts so that if this network is stealing from players, we can spread the word far and wide and keep as many people from being hurt as possible.

However, if only vague stories of "I know a guy who knows a guy who has a cousin..." type stories are portrayed here, it's difficult to take what is said at face value.

Please help by contributing, or bring people here with first hand knowledge that can contribute, to the active information in this thread.




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Kahn
So you're asking someone who had their account banned and funds confiscated to gather more minions to help? Yet, you've had conversations with an affiliate, with information, and yet they aren't here posting?

Interesting.....
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02-13-2014 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkoPolo
So you're asking someone who had their account banned and funds confiscated to gather more minions to help? Yet, you've had conversations with an affiliate, with information, and yet they aren't here posting?

Interesting.....

There's nothing for that affiliate to add. The person was accused of breaking the TOS. There is some evidence apparently. Funds were confiscated, as they would have been at any network. End of story.

There is no mass conspiracy to steal funds that I am aware of. Just one guy and you saying there is. No proof has been offered. I want to see that proof if it exists! I'm curious about this network. I want to stake people here... but not if it's a network that is acting out against it's players.

Once again, I'm still waiting to see actual evidence. Perhaps one of you will oblige me, and the rest of the community, by producing some...


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Kahn
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02-13-2014 , 03:15 AM
Few software feature that would be nice to see.

1. Check/fold option - Probably the most important thing. Right now, if you time out at any point during the hand, you fold regardless of the action or your position. You could be playing a big pot in position with the nuts on the river, deciding how much to vbet, and if you let time run out you will fold and the opponent will win the pot. It should only fold your hand if you time out to a bet, otherwise check.

2. If a player who has put money into the pot, including posting blinds, disconnects from the hand, their hand is treated as allin, not folded. It is possible to disconnect yourself if you have 73o in the big blind, and allow yourself to realize your equity without the reverse implied odds that comes with those hands in multiway pots.

3. I also have problems taking my seat when a seat opens up and I'm on the waiting list. After the seat opens, I buyin in and click ok and the seat goes from "reserved" to empty. If someone is behind me on the waitlist I lose the seat completely, if it was just me on the list, then I can sit down in the empty seat no problems

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02-13-2014 , 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
There's nothing for that affiliate to add. The person was accused of breaking the TOS. There is some evidence apparently. Funds were confiscated, as they would have been at any network. End of story.

There is no mass conspiracy to steal funds that I am aware of. Just one guy and you saying there is. No proof has been offered. I want to see that proof if it exists! I'm curious about this network. I want to stake people here... but not if it's a network that is acting out against it's players.

Once again, I'm still waiting to see actual evidence. Perhaps one of you will oblige me, and the rest of the community, by producing some...


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Kahn
I, for a second, thought you were trolling here, but then I realized you needed a formal welcome to the internet, so WELCOME! Guess what? Things aren't always black and white and simple. Often the truth lies in deep shades of grey.

I never once suggested there was a "mass conspiracy", I was simply suggesting caution.

Having said that, it appears, your motivation is profit, so I'd suggest you do your own vetting.
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02-13-2014 , 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by UnMarc
Regarding payouts at Full Flush Poker, here are what they want:

As part of our security procedures, we will require the following info from you:

1. Front and back copy of your picture ID
2. Font and back of the credit card you used to make deposits
3. A utility bill showing your name and address.
4. And the authorization form (printed and signed handwritten)

WHAT!? Security reason, you want ALL my info!? Isn't that a big breach of security, I mean with this info you can pretty much do anything.

I'm guessing they are doing this to make it very difficult for people to leave and they sure need the few they have left in that ghost town ;-)

Next time I will read ALL the fine print, my mistake.
I was prepared to send all these things in and got in touch with live chat right after my withdraw request. They told me a copy of my license would be just fine as i deposited western union. Took two days to get 500 cash in hand minus 39 dollar fee. Nothing bad i can say about this site at all and I play or played on every site up until new jersey went online. I only use full flush now when home during the week in ny. Nothing shady at all about this place. Even the customer service is great. This sounds like a shill post it's not. I give credit when it's due most pleasantly suprised i ever been minus 888 nj 5 day no fee check. Thumbs up
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02-13-2014 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by UnMarc
Regarding payouts, here are what they want:

As part of our security procedures, we will require the following info from you:

1. Front and back copy of your picture ID
2. Font and back of the credit card you used to make deposits
3. A utility bill showing your name and address.
4. And the authorization form (printed and signed handwritten)

WHAT!? Security reason, you want ALL my info!? Isn't that a big breach of security, I mean with this info you can pretty much do anything.

I'm guessing they are doing this to make it very difficult for people to leave and they sure need the few they have left in that ghost town ;-)

Next time I will read ALL the fine print, my mistake.
The requested documentation to verify (US) player accounts requesting a withdrawal is industry standard. The full information, including the card info is part of the fraud prevention procedures in place and is required from any player specially if they deposited using a credit card.

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Originally Posted by ledn378
Few software feature that would be nice to see.

1. Check/fold option - Probably the most important thing. Right now, if you time out at any point during the hand, you fold regardless of the action or your position. You could be playing a big pot in position with the nuts on the river, deciding how much to cbet, and if you let time run out you will fold and the opponent will win the pot. It should only fold your hand if you time out to a bet, otherwise check.
The above is one of the most crucial bugs currently in the software and it's on top of the task list for the developers together with adjusting the bet slider and bet sizing. We hope to see this patch being rolled out soon.

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2. If a player who has put money into the pot, including posting blinds, disconnects from the hand, their hand is treated as all-in, not folded. It is possible to disconnect yourself if you have 73o in the big blind, and allow yourself to realize your equity without the reverse implied odds that comes with those hands in multiway pots.
I will pass this one and we'll try to reproduce this. This is the first time we have heard of this.

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3. I also have problems taking my seat when a seat opens up and I'm on the waiting list. After the seat opens, I buyin in and click ok and the seat goes from "reserved" to empty. If someone is behind me on the waitlist I lose the seat completely, if it was just me on the list, then I can sit down in the empty seat no problems
Same as above. We'll be trying to re-produce this and pass it on to the developers. Thanks for sharing.

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Originally Posted by joeogs
I was prepared to send all these things in and got in touch with live chat right after my withdraw request. They told me a copy of my license would be just fine as i deposited western union. Took two days to get 500 cash in hand minus 39 dollar fee. Nothing bad i can say about this site at all and I play or played on every site up until new jersey went online. I only use full flush now when home during the week in ny. Nothing shady at all about this place. Even the customer service is great. This sounds like a shill post it's not. I give credit when it's due most pleasantly suprised i ever been minus 888 nj 5 day no fee check. Thumbs up
You're right. We only require "full verification" including a scan / picture of the credit card and signed authorization form for players that have made their deposit using a card. Players who make a deposit using one of the other methods only have to submit a valid ID and a utility bill to verify their account.
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02-13-2014 , 11:46 AM
you need to make the window to pop up front when is your turn and not being folded when you time out
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02-13-2014 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kahntrutahn
Once again, I'm still waiting to see actual evidence. Perhaps one of you will oblige me, and the rest of the community, by producing some...


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What evidence are you exactly looking for? Would be more than willing to help
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02-13-2014 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Steel-O
The only thing Marko is saying is to be careful. Everyone can make their own decisions.

However, I have been in touch with multiple affiliates who all have had a bunch of players being banned and money confiscated based on bs reasons and lies. Just like myself. All parties involved are still communicating and trying to come to a solution. But so far this Clive Archer guy seems to be a scam artist with Borderline Personality Disorder. It's crazy how much a person can lie.

I'm not going to recommend anyone anything. I can only give you my story and share the information I have. Just please be careful.
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Originally Posted by Steel-O
The made up reason why my account has been banned: After reviewing a relevant amount of game history we have confirmed that your account is involved in collusion.
I think that you need to take into consideration that a lot of losing players believe that the only reason that they loose is because either the RNG is rigged or they are a victim of collusion. I think that its much more likely that such a player reported you for collusion than the network is trying to steal your money. For the network to try to steal small amounts of money while they are trying to build their player base just doesn't make any sense.

Equity is a coop. So I think that each skin holds on to your money rather than the network unlike how it is done on other networks. I think that the network simply receives monthly fees. I don't think that Clive Archer could easily end up with your money if you are banned. I don't know how you are handling this situation but if you are telling support that they are a bunch of thieves, your permanent banishment might become a self-fullfilling phrophesy.

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02-13-2014 , 05:10 PM
My skin has no access to my money. My skin is amazing and is working super hard to solve everything. They talk to Clive on a daily basis. I've seen copies of the conversation.

Again, I'm lucky I will get my money back but would still feel pretty bad if my affiliate or the skin I was playing on would lose money because of this.

Equity sent me one email telling me my accoubt is banned and funds confiscated. They told me i could send them an email anytime ibhave a question. They didnt respond to my email asking to provide me with the evidence they have. It has been 5 days since that email was sent.
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02-13-2014 , 10:16 PM
If Clive Archer is personally involved, do you think that publicly saying, "But so far this Clive Archer guy seems to be a scam artist with Borderline Personality Disorder. It's crazy how much a person can lie." has helped or hurt your case?
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02-14-2014 , 02:46 AM
NL goes up to 5/10 but PLO only 1.5/3? Plans for higher stakes omaha?
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02-14-2014 , 03:08 AM
why cant i type in bet amounts? why don't the tables pop up to front? why wont you send me my verification email after i requested it 30 times? grrrrrrrrrrr
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02-14-2014 , 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopster81
NL goes up to 5/10 but PLO only 1.5/3? Plans for higher stakes omaha?
I made a note about the Omaha stakes for our Monday meeting and will raise your suggestion with our operations manager.

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Originally Posted by JHair
why cant i type in bet amounts? why don't the tables pop up to front? why wont you send me my verification email after i requested it 30 times? grrrrrrrrrrr
In case you're on IntegerPoker please PM me your screen name and I'll get your account manually verified. Meanwhile please check you spam/junk folder to see if the verification email has been wrongly marked as spam.

For your active table(s) to pop up please enable the option in the client.

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02-14-2014 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SandyTaylor
I made a note about the Omaha stakes for our Monday meeting and will raise your suggestion with our operations manager.



In case you're on IntegerPoker please PM me your screen name and I'll get your account manually verified. Meanwhile please check you spam/junk folder to see if the verification email has been wrongly marked as spam.

For your active table(s) to pop up please enable the option in the client.

i pressed active table but it doesnt pop up to the front
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