try this out and give us a trip report

Well, BetOnline has 2 new press releases out stating that basically that they have, swapped live dealer companies and are investigating any wrong-doing. They're asking anyone else noticing any anomalies to contact them.

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Kahn

after differents test with the players : imbaa80, pinejuice, idraw , maybe i forgot one. I have to consider that is really posible they are bots..... so people who think they are bots should mail the support if you have some stats, time schedule ... that will be nice... too many player are complaining now about that, and without communication froM BOL TIGER or The nework, we are going to lose a lot of action. for the moment when one of the guys appear we can sit out and ask to the people to do the same and go on another table. I guess it is the only thing to do for the moment

if a person from chico can communcate here that wil be very kind too... .

we are not crazy and whatever your super high security it is possible : https://www.pokernews.com/news/2015/...tion-21860.htm

i have a tigergaming account but i dont like the fees to withdrwal and they dont have bitcoins option for a payout...i would like to move to BOL. anyone knows if i can get all my money to a new BOL account ?

Not without withdrawing from TG and depositing to BOL.

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You can cash out for free every 30 days on fridays. Just enter "free friday cashout" in the notes

i have 11k...and they only alow 5k max..how u guys are doing ?

Legit question.

a) why do you have that much money on a potentially shady site(I know I use it too, but I keep it to a 1-2k min) I mean if you have 11k on it I assume you have decent capital, but seems like unnecessary risk.

b) you know the withdrawal limits when you upload(or should look into it when you do upload)

c) i believe its 5k a day or week so it shouldnt take too long to get it off

sometimes you win too much too fast... i have 23k on the site and my only option is ecopayz comme im canadian... 1k per cash out 5k a month max.

my first time i cash out in 2 years kind of freaks me out cashed out 1k 3 days ago and no news from them. i asked them if i can do a wire maybe i can cash out bigger amount.

What kind of site doesnt send an email to confirm your cash out is under review i dont get it

+1

Will PM skype add.

they kinda do. they send you an "email" message in your account settings > messages area.

They dont send to your email prob to a) cover their ass in the future or b) make sure significant others dont find out about gambling via email

Anyone concerned about the rumors that Brent Beckley may have joined their staff?

any delay on payouts ?

Can you help get an official response re: the rules on this, Kahn? I keep getting different answers. Thanks.

A whole review of TG

Firstly, their blackjack.
Long story short, do not play their online blackjack, "live" or not, both are obviously tilted towards them making more money, the video is a good example of this, but the online blackjack one is as well, it's almost always the same hands, you get used to it, the dealer almost never flops a 3 or 2, almost always a 7-8-9-10 and also almost always flips a 10 with this it is incredibly rare for you to see the dealer ever flip a 7 then a 7 or a 6 and 6, out of 1,000 hands I didn't see it ever. If you bet lower you will get more standard cards and standard wins, the higher you bet the more radical the board becomes, you can flip 20 and they will hit 21 more often than is usual, you hit a 9 the board will give you 19, they will always hit 19 or 20. It is extremely obvious that either I am very unlucky and completely ignorant to blackjack, even after years of playing, or this is too questionable to play any type of blackjack there.

Also do not even think of trying to get a free play with them, I believe it is 10X before you can withdraw it, so if you get 25$ you need to win 250$ and after reading the above, you can kind of figure it’s unlikely. Possible, but unlikely. Just go buy a scratcher lottery ticket you have the same odds at a decent prize.

Secondly, as for their poker room. There are various aspects I would like to discuss.

a) The customer service is good and bad. The good is, they actually answer you (through email. The only way of contacting them). The bad is you will literally get different answers, different requests from various agents, one may ask you to give x ID, the other won't ask at all, the other may tell you have to wait x days, but the next time you do the same process this is not asked of you, then it is asked of you again the third time... All in all, they email you with various rep names, probably around 20, yet they do not have a phone number? ODD.

b) The poker players on the site, ok let's look at this quite simply, go right now on tiger gaming, look how many players are stated, now correct me if I am wrong, I understand that Tiger and Betonline share traffic but how is it that they list 1500 players, yet you cannot find 95% of these players in currently playing, registered or finished SNG, tournaments and cash games, it makes no sense. ODD

c) The actual poker, I basically played over 30,000 hands but mainly in SNG and tournaments, I stayed away from cash games after seeing the horror stories on here and reading that they can even freeze and keep your wins if they say the other players had committed fraud. At first I also thought a lot of players seemed like bots or super accounts as quite often they made ridicously calls literally they had nothing, not even worth bluffing, I was tired and just would go all in for smaller SNGs and I would get called when this was obviously not evident to the other players and they would call, have a horrible worst hand than me, turn and river the absolute nuts, almost every time (read point D below). Also, I believed that this was the case as pretty much all the same players always play the SNGs you literally see 20 players rotate, and maybe 1 new name here and there, but a good majority of them finally spoke so I do not believe there are as many bots as people assume, even though there may still be some, the ones who didn't speak, almost never lose, even in hyper SNG's with whatever cards they have, also such players sometimes play against each other and the betting in such accounts if you watch the game after you lose is so odd, it’s almost programmed betting and calling, it makes no sense for someone to raise x amount leaving 10 chips in his account and for the other to call leaving 20 chips in his account, this happens very often, most likely due to pre-programmed betting in SNG’s. ODD

d) The actual hands, now out of all the hands I have played, I have never seen such weird flops, turns and rivers, and it is a shared feeling amongst the players that actually spoke to me above in C, a good 20-30 of the usual players. It is perfectly rational that these are just "unlucky", for them and I, as many players seem to state, but in my mind when the less than 10% odd hands hit more than the 90% odd hands, there's an issue, basically here the trick to make money is to call with garbage. ODD

Explain to me what this means, from their Security section on their website, literally this is contradictory as hell. Haha.

TigerGaming.com uses 2 state-of-the-art algorithms for generating random numbers. Our primary random number generator (RNG) draws its random numbers from a period of 219937 – 1 (a number with 6,001 digits, which is trillions of times greater than the number of atoms in the observable universe.) This gives it a much higher order of “equidistribution” (evenly distributed results) than any other implemented generator.

No other random number generator (RNG) combines statistical soundness and speed quite like TigerGaming.com’s. Statistically random in all its output, it guarantees speedy play and practically perfect randomness. We also use a secondary generator which operates twice as quickly?????, through avoidance of synchronization, and method inlining and finalizing. By using the best aspects of both RNG’s, TigerGaming.com commits to speedy and fair play in all its games.

And…

CG’s Random Number Generator (RNG), which is the RNG used in our poker software has successfully been tested to generally-accepted industry standards for highly-regulated jurisdictions by Gaming Laboratories International (GLI). <- just because the number generator they use was tested by GLI it does not mean that after this they can just alter anything in it lol…


e) The tournaments are not very thrilling, the tournaments die off at 11:30 pm, they do have a few decent ones (basically the ones listed on their website).

f) The rewards are almost impossible to collect if you do not play cash games as the others require minimum 1$ rake fee, 10$+ tournaments and SNGs, so your double up bonus is not worth it and you will not likely collect it unless you are playing religiously in cash games or higher stake SNGs, in most other card rooms all SNGs count, easily I could activate 5$ of my bonus everyday or so playing 2-3 SNGs non-stop for 7-8 hours, here, you get nothing. ODD.

g) Their credentials, server, and software. Correct me here because I don’t have the patience to look, but I believe their server is in Curacao, and that they are licenced by https://www.gamingcommission.ca/ in Kahnawake. Pretty much the latter gives licences if you have the right price, then good luck doing anything as they on native ground, and Curacao is even worse, so for whatever reason they can decide to lock your account with your money and good bye to that money. Also this server lags very often even disconnecting you and making you lose out with very little disconnect time and the software itself will bug often, where you click on a certain part of the software and it will go click higher in the software.

To sum it all up, it is still possible to make money here, some do, some don’t, it is also possible to withdraw when you have funds and want to, some get the chance to, some don’t, but I would much rather put my money where there is some type of regulator, where there is enough equity that I feel my game host is not scamming me on poker or blackjack, where the bonuses actually have some legitimacy to them, where there is enough traffic, that even if some players do bot, you are not stuck playing with them 1 out of 2 games, that there is a live customer service so you can speak to actual people, that they allow their hands be released and recorded in programs to allow to see exactly how “unlucky” people are actually getting. I ended in the positive last month after playing poker and going up, then blackjack and being way down and up again, then poker, and I withdrew and deleted the software, I’ll stick to live games myself, but enjoy if you decide to play on TG.

If only youd use that time and dedication to learn the game instead of coming up with conspiracy theories...
Played at TG for years and that message is FOS.

Yeah i dunno your post is pretty full of ****. just because you write alot doesnt make it true

their cash games are the best. full of fishies

What? I have played 1/2 and 2/5 for about 3 years, besides that I played for years online before black friday. It helped me pay through my masters. I am also currently in my 3rd year of my PHD in statistical physics and complexity. Please enlighten me how your knowledge in any way surpasses mine.

Here since you obviously dont agree with me, maybe you can enlighten yourself with a newsarticle on the BetOnline team and who they have recently been associated too. Mind you this article is easily relatable to TG also as they use the same software.

http://www.flushdraw.net/news/cheate...ned-betonline/

This site is filled with tons of ignorant people who honestly I could give a rats ass less about my post was intended to help others avoid a situation they can possibly end up in especially if there are much safer options.

The player above who says they won means nothing ffs absolute poker used to have a marketing strategy in their blackjack system where every first players hand would win to persuade them to bet more.

I never claimed I was 100% sure, if anyone knows anything about statistics, it's me, I'm just stating the fact that you can run into a house that's on fire and not get burnt, but often the Darwinian award candidates dont come out. Enjoy playing online on TG or BO and dont expect any further posts on this matter. It'll play itself out over time

iseeyour cards you created an account just to cause panic? i am playing in TG from 3 years now and i am making money from poker .... i cant speak for their casino ..but no one wins playing against the casino...

also from somone who knows so much about statisctic how do you lose playing poker at TG the best and sofest field ever (i play nl100)?

Reread my second post it'll answer your first paragraph.

Reread my first post it'll answer your second paragraph. I have no idea who gave you the idea I was down on poker on TG or BO? Again I dont want to spend more time on this, but from your post and from your statements you seems*** to be in lines*** for next years Darwinian award.

you talked like a whale and i assumed you were a losing player

Not at all. I wouldn't be in school if I was. Not for this long at least. And winning or losing would not at all be a great indication of my comprehension of such also. Maybe over a few hundred thousand hands but I don't play that much anymore which is also why I state in every post that I am not 100 % sure of anything but adding everything up I'd rather put my eggs in another basket. Once one scandal hits a network such as shown in the video it can and has affected various card rooms solvency as per every insolvent card room ever and that enough would rock my boat. I would never leave more than 3-4 buy ins, at whatever level I play, even if I felt comfortable with the rest of the factors I have discussed,just for that fact alone.

anyone here using idebit as a payout ?

3-4 buyins....enough said. Go to the rigtard thread.

I am trying to join BOL. I live in the states and download it no problem. When I try to run the program, I keep getting a connection error. Is this a common bug or problem?