SNGs for me at this point. Until I build a nice bankroll on Bovada.

Has anyone received their Holiday bonus $$ yet?

Still waiting....

What stakes or tourneys do you play? I was grinding the 7.7 qualifiers. SOFT as a old man with erectile dysfunction.

Is there any action at PLO8 cash game at 100 and 200? I play between 8PM and 4AM ET.

Monday mornings wouldn't be the same without these posts....

Or these....

I usually play the three 1k guarantees starting at 7:30, 8 and 8:30. Also play all sats that run and when I feel like I can stay up until 2am I play the $55.

While I play the MTT's, I'll sit in 4 cash games from PL100-PL400. Whatever is running.

Soft as charmin

Yes, you can easily play 4 tables at those times/stakes.

I've been considering giving Bovada a try, but the notes thing is a huge deal breaker. You can try to limit things to a point, but if you go overboard, then eventually you're not playing poker anymore. When I read things like this, it's clear to me that the games on Bovada are not poker. Hats off to everyone who is on the site and having fun, but keep in mind that you are developing a skill applicable to exactly ONE poker site: Bovada. No where else that I know of can you not keep player notes live or online. Paying attention to detail and getting reads on players, dynamics, and situations is the essence of poker. Even rush poker, which I despised due to its lack of player reads and table dynamics (not poker either) still had the player names visible and the ability to take notes.

Not every thought is worthy of sharing with others. Your analysis of Bovada's basic features in a thread about Bovada that is 673 pages deep might be the worst post on 2+2 today.

Thanks for warning us off.....man you really changed my mind about playing on Bovada.

I'd like to officially announce I've received my bonus.

What time of the day is the bonus released on Monday?

so you're saying the games on a site with a 4 table max and anonymous tables play differently than the games on nit factory sites that don't have anonymous tables and allow people to play 24 tables- thanks for the amazing insight.
i'm also stunned to find out there aren't any casinos with anonymous tables.i thought they all made people wear paper bags on their heads when they played.

I don't think poker gets more "real poker" than sitting down at a random low stakes table in a casino, and that's basically the same as Bovada unless you play the same room so much that you recognize regulars. Even then, there will always be people you don't recognize.

Sure, you can put people on a certain skill level a lot faster and some can be clearly read. But it's also certain that you will never have a "calls 3bet with AA" note pop up when you sit down on a physical table.

I got notes on Donkvader, that's pretty much it.

There's a big difference between playing "differently" and not being the same game. I'm basically saying that eliminating note taking and creating that level of anonymity makes it not poker imo. And winning players especially should be careful to go to a site where your skill set can not be leveraged other places. I've been honing my online and live game for years and I can easily play at a casino, PokerStars, FullTilt, Carbon, and win anywhere that we're playing poker. I'm not saying players can't win at Bovada or that they aren't some skills to help them, but I personally wouldn't want to invest my time and energy into something that's not applicable anywhere else.

Even though I may not know people at a table in a live setting, I still can take notes on them either in my head or on my cellphone. When they get up and are replaced with a new player, I know the new player is different than the old player in seat 6. The player who left may sit at the same table with me tomorrow and the notes I have from yesterday are still valid.

At the very least, I should have the ability to take notes on a player, give them my own name, and then when they come back, my notes should come back with them. If not, we ain't playing poker. We're playing a long handed variant of Rush.

Anonymity in poker should be limited to a point for two obvious reasons:

1) You need reads in poker to be poker
2) You need to have the ability to detect cheating and collusion. I don't know if any of the major cheating scandals would have been uncovered had they used Bovada's model.

I don't play 24 tables. I play 5 to 6. I'd be content playing 4 if I could take notes on the players I'm playing against and get reads and have table dynamics. I'm of the opinion you can't get that at all on Bovada using their current model. I don't think you can get it in Rush poker either.

Like I said, if you like it, I'm not trying to convince you to leave. I'm just stating why I'm reluctant to jump in the pool. My opinion is no less valid. No need to get your feelings hurt.

Your walls of text that you've written this far make one thing clear -you've spent almost no time researching Bovada and what tools and features maybe available to you, as a player.

Will the person who asked the question of Mr. Phatty, please raise their hand!

Lol at warning us that the skill we are developing on bovada isn't translatable. Poker isn't a translatable skill to anything else so your wasting your time playing any kind of poker by that logic.

You are overreaching on how "anonymous" players truly are on Bovada. Not that you sit down at a table and know player 3 is the same guy as player 2 from yesterday. But you sit with the same players just like live games for fairly extended periods of time usually. A HUD helps out a lot, if just so you know you are still playing against the same guy. You get used to thinking "player 2 is very tight" or "player 3 is out of line with aggression." They develop personalities despite their nominal anonymity, nothing at all like rush.

Anonymity does make cheating/collusion detection tougher for the end user, although of course Bovada knows who everybody is. That's probably the fairest point and the best model for dealing with bum hunting is something like picking stakes and getting seated randomly at a table. The last page of the NJ thread makes a lot of good points here. The fact that bad players can easily find tables and play against each other instead of regs makes it much better for the site since it is much more enjoyable for bad players.

Meh, don't listen to him. Action is nitty as all hell imo. There isn't that many games that run either. The game is also a rake trap, as every pot on this site for O/8 is chopped.

Lol at making this post, are you stupid?

He wants some people new to a complex, hi/lo, four card game to try it out because it's soft, and then be crushed by him?