Angleshooting is unethical... poor form... I just want my money back... if there's something wrong with the software, Bovada should just fix it (I once lost $650 in a 1 hand, holding the nuts on the river, due to a disconnect which Bovada disavowed responsibility for).

Hard for me to feel sorry for Bovada, however this pans out... they refuse to debug their crappy-ass software, and blame losses accrued thereof on chumps like me, i guess

I think I'm a swell fellow... I'm just a vulnerable little guy who wants the measly ~grand Big Bad Bovada owes him... a little guy with, mayhaps, some unlittle leverage.

I agree. So is blackmail. That was my point. If you are trying to defend yourself against allegations that you in effect angleshooted or exploited their casino, perhaps threatening to blackmail them is not helping your case.

Asking for ONLY THE MONEY THEY OWE me (the majority of which had just been deposited a few days earlier) does not constitute blackmail -- what Bovada is doing does, conversely, constitute THEFT.

All I want is my money back... if I don't get it, dontcha think it's fair to put everything into the light?

Never mind. Good luck.

They seized 9k from me for a flimsy reason as well, waiting to have the final nail in the coffin of my chances of getting my money back before I spam everywhere with the story. Everyone beware, they will without shame take everything on some silly TOS technicality you are breaking these days apparently.

Why don't you share your story without hiding anything to see whether we should feel sympathy for you or not?

How to the tickets for Sports bets work? I converted two, 900 poker points = $10 sports bet. It says it has a 3x rollover. Does that mean for each if I put a $30 bet they chop off $10? Do I need to bet $30 first and then? Where does this ticket appear in sports betting section?

The poker tourney tickets are straight forward because it says "buy with ticket" and has ticket logo showing next to the qualifying tournies

In my case, at least, I KNOW that sharing my story will likely cost Bovada a chit-ton -- talking both "implied/real" odds here -- I'm trying to be a nice guy and give 'em an out.

Aint gone say no more dan dat.

It is funny that on the day Bovada starts doing Bitcoin withdrawals all of a sudden you get trolls telling stories .

They were probably hired by WPN to post BS about Bovada

and lol to the guy who said he got banned for exploiting the casino

I post a lot in other threads, I'm not some random troll trying to tarnish bovada. I don't know if they monitor these forums or not but my ordeal isn't officially done yet, I don't want to affect chances by trashing them just yet. If you are legit & interested and PM me I'll tell you the story.

I'll chime in with my story regarding bovada temp banning accounts.

I have ~5k on there (all from poker), and they temp banned me about a month ago and haven't given me any updates since despite multiple calls, emails, etc.

What happened was I played casino games with money on a poker table sitting out and $100 in casino bonus funds remaining on my account. I just mashed max bet on slots until all the bonus funds were gone. Not a smart decision, I'll admit.

That was the only incident, only casino bonus I've ever used. They didn't actually lose any money from it (although I think that taking $100 - the amount of the bonus - would be reasonable). But probably they are just going to take everything and **** me over

Maybe I deserve it, idk. But IMO taking $5k for a one time very borderline violation of ToS with a relatively small sum seems absolutely absurd.

Bovada CLAIMS/SUGGESTS/INSINUATES that I may have exploited their casino... this is the rationale they have given me for locking my account and seizing my funds "pending an investigation" into "suspicious activity."

They will only talk about the alleged "exploitation of a software security vulnerability" with me over the phone (even then, they offered me little info and seemed to be fishing).

Yeah, I mean sitting at a poker table and casino table at the same time doesn't seem like something that should break your system right?

I wasn't even trying to abuse their system, just ****ing around. But they can't just let me off or even give me the slightest update. Super tilting...

Ha-ha, you let one of the neonatal kittens out of Bovada's bag... still a dankass, rutted-out wampus cat or two in there, methinks... swim @ your own risk, fellas

Why would sharing your story cost them a chit ton?

It has only cost you a chit ton.

Why would anyone want to do what you did?

No. You're not simply asking for your money. You are trying to blackmail them to force them to give you your money.

You also have a way overblown idea of how much influence you have over how players judge Bovada.

i did this same thing when i was refused a poker bonus...id sit at a limit table with my entire balance whilst playin blackjack w/the bonus funds as to not lose my original deposit...even if it is against the TOS taking a players balance is beyond discomforting...why cant they just remove the gains or remove the bonus amount from the balance? these post are much more calm than id be if i was in their shoes...GL hope they release tha funds


so they freeroll us? run it up using bonus funds w/o risking ur deposit gets u banned but if u use ur deposit or lose ur fine?

How will revealing this cost them a **** ton more? It will just put more people in the same boat you are in.

Bovada will then seize their balances too...

=Bovada Profit?

If anything you will put more people in the same position you are in, SOL.

They aren't freerolling you. They gave you free $$, but had terms and conditions associated with it. You found a way to angleshoot on the bonus and then you actually try to freeroll them by only risking the bonus.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't get how this is wrong, angle shooting or whatever. This "bonus" can't be withdrawn until the rollover is meet anyway and said rollover can be meet by actually playing with/using said bonus. For example, I had no money in my account plenty of times, Bovada has sent me no deposit poker bonuses and one no deposit casino bonus, in neither circumstance was it necessary or required for me to have any of my actual money in the mix. Both had rollover requirements before they were able to be withdrawn though.

So I really don't see how finding a way to segregate one's free clear money from a bonus requiring a rollover is much different.

suggesting im angleshooting or cheating the system is laughable....

perhaps it should use the bonus funds first since its an instant bonus and not an unlock?

wut if i bought into tournaments with my funds but used the bonus to play blackjack whilst in the tournaments? thas angling too huh...whata joke

Bit Coin withdrawals ROCK!!!

how many times did you do it?

Can someone help me figure out what's happening with my refer-a-friend bonus?

A friend opened a Bovada account and deposited $25. I got $50 in bonus money for referring him. It seems I'm working off the $50 fairly quickly already and the bonus money displayed is roughly half of that $50 now, which pleases me. However, there's another amount which keeps going up and that displeases me. It's called the "lock" amount. The lock amount creeps upward very slowly compared to how quickly the bonus amount decreases.

What is going to happen to the lock amount after I've cleared the bonus? Is it going to keep going up? In other words, did I misread the promotion? Does 200% deposit bonus mean that I'm giving THEM a 200% deposit bonus? Will the "lock" amount ever start to decrease?

I alluded to this awhile back, in reference to the "unlock" progress thingy seeming to be broken/off for some time now, at least mine. However I've never had any issues once the actually bonus was cleared. Same thing is happening with the current 50% BTC bonus, whenever my balance increases, so does the "locked" amount but I plan to see how this pans out once the actual bonus amount progress is complete.

In your specific case, as long as the referral bonus is progressing correctly, imo, you should be fine once it's cleared. lmk how it all turns out though.