This was posted on p5 about the issue:

Hello Bovada Customer Service here! We have looked into these allegations from this player and will be dealing with him directly on this issue. We can assure you that at no time will any player be able to find out other player’s names. The only way that this would be possible is if the players themselves shared that information through other forms like Twitter or Facebook. We understand that allegations like these tend to make any player a bit nervous, but again we can assure you that this is definitely not the case.

If they legalize that then they will make arrests, however they're gonna have a hard time catching them IMHO, because who knows if were going to be able to track them uinless they have a specific department for that purpose.

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Free moniez

LOL. Good one. Those, uh, "improvements" are coming!

If you really want to argue this point I will. Here is my brief response, let me know if you want to discuss either of these further.

Live poker is not online poker.
(a) The PENALTY FOR BEING CAUGHT for live is actually much stiffer in the context of the situation. At least at the two in CT, if you get caught colluding you are permanently banned from entering the card room. This is in effect ending your career. Online if you get barred all you have to do is get another IP address and a new screen name. Being barred from a B&M is actually quite serious if you ever want to play poker live again. Being banned online has little effect.

(B) It is EASIER TO DETECT in B&M, therefore the EFFECT is smaller. If I see two people who I THINK are colluding, I won't play with them at the same table if I see them again the next weekend even if the manager didn't do anything. Online they can change their names or use teamviewer. On BODOG they can just straight up be anonymous.

(C) The EFFECT of colluding online is much bigger as these players can multi-table, two losing players colluding can actually turn plus EV online. You give me two losing players at foxwoods, I don't care if they are showing each other their god damn cards I will destroy them if I can see them and hear what their talking about.

Therefore I think they can't be compared. However, I guarantee if the state caught you cheating on the lottery you will get arrested. If its legalized by the lottery, what would be the difference? I doubt a lotto will allow rampant cheating on their site and not try and take CRIMINAL action.

I wouldn't be surprised if the US Gov't set up a one-stop-sign-up where you have to register your address, real name, social security, IP, etc. At that point you can sign up for the sites (wsop or whatever) with a global net ID.

You would use your global net ID to get a scree name at whatever site. Therefore you get caught cheating on one all the sites will know.

My guess is if you don't have a social security number assigned to your screen name then you won't be playing on a US regulated site.

ty

I couldn't agree more with your whole post, with the exception of if it's you versus two losing players that you'll beat them, I don't think you would beast them long term possibly short term.
I guess i won't be on these sites ain't no way anybody is getting my SS#.

Providing your SS# will probably be the mandatory (tax purposes) if/when the government regulates online poker.

for that Super Bowl bonus link - fine print

Only activity after the coupon has been redeemed counts toward the bonus requirements.
This offer is a 100% chip purchase Match Bonus up to $46.

Bonus plus chip purchase amount is subject to a 40x roll over requirement in the Casino before the chip purchase and bonus amount can be withdrawn.

what is roll over requirement? do you need $92x40 in net gambling activity (casino only?) to cash it out? can someone please explain

Hi, now that they have switched to Bovada, are they accepting all states? I want to say they did not accept all states at some point, but am unsure.

Anyone within the network or a knowledgeable affiliate that may be able to help is welcome to PM me as I'm looking for a site to move my play on and Bodog/Bovada is a def option.

yeah $92 x $40 casino play (excluding single/double deck bj and some others) before you can withdraw any of it.

there goes my 46$

best thing to do just put 92 on 3 card poker and hope to run rly hot like 6 hands in a row?

I have no intention of playing on a regulated site, so with that they would never get my SS#. my reasons are simple, who wants to pay 30% of their winnings and secondly how in the world are they going to stop cheaters/collusionists? It's simple they can't just like the regular sites can't!!

Thanks for not paying taxes scumbag.

You know you dont have to know how to calculate ROI to pay taxes, right?

I knew that $46 deal was too good to be true. I have the casino locked for a reason.

How did you "lock" the casino? I've never seen that option.

Did you have to e-mail support?

That's actually what they are doing at Denmark in order to play on PokerStars and PartyPoker.

(a) Most of us do not pay anywhere near 30% unless your making over 250,000 I think. This applies to us poker players who file as professional gamblers. We simply net our winnings and pay taxes like normal citizens.

(b) I guess your implying you don't pay your taxes on your winnings, that's on you. In my opinion its not about getting caught its about what is right and wrong. The only moral thing to do is pay your taxes. But I guess that is easier if your filing as a professional gambler because i get to right off things like my trips to vegas, my gas miles to the casino, my new computers, etc. If your a casual player then I guess paying taxes is more of a hardship, I don't know.

(c) Regarding why regular sites don't catch cheaters. (1) They do, you just don't hear about all the money and accounts they confiscate because the people know they were cheating so they don't bother to make 2pl2 accounts to bitch about it - although some even do that. (2) Your never going to catch all the cheaters and colluders, that is just a poker (and life) fact. It is simply impossible. We just have to hope the penalties are severe enough to persuade people not to cheat but the risk will be too much. I think if someone gets charged with a felony over cheating it will help make people think twice about cheating. You have to kind of approach it like how the US Gov't approaches colluders in business, you catch the ones who do the most damage and hopefully it makes it unattractive to even consider colluding. Plus we need public pressure by the players to ought the cheaters. The poker economy, just like the regular one, would do better without cheaters. But the fact is there will always be cheaters no matter what.

Seems pretty obvious that any regulated industry is gonna require a way to verify who you are which is gonna involve your SS#. I don't know anyone who likes giving away their SS# but these same people suck it up and do it when its necessary and with a reputable source. In the poker industry we would need something centralized and legitimate to handle our sensitive verification information. Someone on the last page mentioned this that there might be one entity that handles it and not each site individually, I think this is the ideal way because to keep this industry we need to start paying taxes and I have no problem with that, I just want my identity to be safe like everyone else which I think is achieveable with one regulatory outfit that everyone signed up with and not having everyone give their SS# out to every site that they want to join.

Lol @ Georgebushda3rd. You seem like a guy that wouldn't pay his taxes. You might not pay tho cuz you just don't win so who knows. You're no better than the cheaters.

Well he did complain once that he lost $50 and he made a big deal about it, so I imagine he's never paid taxes on anything in his life.

Morphy

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