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04-17-2016 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by RikaKazak
It's annoying that in 2016 the only reason I'm not playing a TON of mtts this weekend is because the software is so horrible.

Back in 2003 when I started online poker I never "avoided" mtts like I do now, even though I was on dial up.

Sucks because it's my birthday weekend and I wanted to grind mad tournaments this weekend, but I don't trust Bovada's software.
Happy B-Day Old Timer

After the update, I withdrew to grind on black chip till things got sorted. In the process I purchased the AJ HUD for the grind and as a result had to upgrade computer.
So I installed a ssd, 8 core 3.7g processor, and 16g of ram(total), running windows 7 on a computer I built in 2012.
When i tried bovada again, software seems to perform about the same as before the update, and thats w/o using the lobby trick.
Hope that Helps
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04-17-2016 , 10:17 AM
how do the turbo HUSNG on Bovada compare to the Hyper Turbos HUSNGs on PS?
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04-17-2016 , 12:00 PM
I can't be the only one that gets annoyed with what seems like a lack of common sense by companies but maybe there is more to it than I know. I'm referring to the recent withdrawal issues on Bovada that are presumed to be due to whatever issues with payment processors yet they still haven't added BTC withdrawal. I'm just venting but reading the Bovada cashout thread, seeing the various complaints and issues, just leaves me wondering "why?", especially when BTC withdrawal is already available on Bodog.

I had similar annoyance with Merge awhile back, which had much worse withdrawal times but has since finally exercised what seems like common sense and implemented BTC withdrawal. /rant
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04-17-2016 , 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ByronSiren
Happy birthday.
Thanks
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04-17-2016 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Reality
Happy B-Day Old Timer

After the update, I withdrew to grind on black chip till things got sorted. In the process I purchased the AJ HUD for the grind and as a result had to upgrade computer.
So I installed a ssd, 8 core 3.7g processor, and 16g of ram(total), running windows 7 on a computer I built in 2012.
When i tried bovada again, software seems to perform about the same as before the update, and thats w/o using the lobby trick.
Hope that Helps
Thanks for the Birthday wishes

I have windows 7 home premium. 8 GB ram and an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Processor (2.8 ghz) and a SSD. Is upgrading to things like 16 instead of 8 worth it? (I'm not that good with computers)
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04-17-2016 , 01:04 PM
Will Bovada be implementing bitcoin withdrawal at some point?
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04-17-2016 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ouroboros1
Will Bovada be implementing bitcoin withdrawal at some point?
most likely bodog has them now and bitcoin deposits started there before coming to bovada
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04-17-2016 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RikaKazak
Thanks for the Birthday wishes

I have windows 7 home premium. 8 GB ram and an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Processor (2.8 ghz) and a SSD. Is upgrading to things like 16 instead of 8 worth it? (I'm not that good with computers)
Disclaimer: I 2 am not a computer expert, but its seems more likely that its related to a ram problem tehn something like processor speed.

Adding 8g of ram to ur computer(provided it has slots available) is about a $60 and 15 minute fix.

However idk if that will fix your issue, but it seemed to work for me.

Shoot me a pm if you think I can be of any more assistance.

I played 60k of 6 max last month and 30k this month on bovada with little issue fwiw.
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04-17-2016 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CuseNation
most likely bodog has them now and bitcoin deposits started there before coming to bovada
That'd be awesome, how long has Bodog had bitcoin withdrawals now? I hope Bovada implements it soon.
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04-17-2016 , 03:20 PM
Hmmm, think I am just going to go ahead and upgrade to a new PC instead of beating my head against a wall. After all, my Alienware is over 5 years old now. It seems like it should be more than adequate to 4 table on Bovada, but it's probably about time to replace my PC anyway. I will update in a couple weeks once I have my new PC and have had a chance to test it for a few days. GL to everyone having problems since the January update!
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04-17-2016 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ouroboros1
That'd be awesome, how long has Bodog had bitcoin withdrawals now? I hope Bovada implements it soon.
that i dont know but if u google bitcoin bodog u can see on their website them talking about deposits and withdrawals with them and even tutorials about them
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04-17-2016 , 06:13 PM
Can't login on mac, tries for awhile then says partially disconnected.
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04-17-2016 , 09:20 PM
tables taking forever to load for me
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04-17-2016 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
Hmmm, think I am just going to go ahead and upgrade to a new PC instead of beating my head against a wall. After all, my Alienware is over 5 years old now. It seems like it should be more than adequate to 4 table on Bovada, but it's probably about time to replace my PC anyway. I will update in a couple weeks once I have my new PC and have had a chance to test it for a few days. GL to everyone having problems since the January update!
I honestly wouldn't spend the money it's their software not your computer tbh
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04-17-2016 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
Hmmm, think I am just going to go ahead and upgrade to a new PC instead of beating my head against a wall. After all, my Alienware is over 5 years old now. It seems like it should be more than adequate to 4 table on Bovada, but it's probably about time to replace my PC anyway. I will update in a couple weeks once I have my new PC and have had a chance to test it for a few days. GL to everyone having problems since the January update!
it def is most likely powerful enough...i have an old gateway but put in 9gb of ram and its not ideal but playable....any reason to get a new pc is a good one tho =] GL
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04-17-2016 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Unguarded
Hmmm, think I am just going to go ahead and upgrade to a new PC instead of beating my head against a wall. After all, my Alienware is over 5 years old now. It seems like it should be more than adequate to 4 table on Bovada, but it's probably about time to replace my PC anyway. I will update in a couple weeks once I have my new PC and have had a chance to test it for a few days. GL to everyone having problems since the January update!
I would definitely stick with alienware if I were you. Mine is 2 years old and the entry level laptop you get for 1100$ or so? I know there are other variables to disconnections, but there is something to be said for alienware with bovada and the lack of discos. Also, try to keep like 90% free space/memory obviously.

I don't even do the casino tab trick. Have never had problems with the software disconnecting. Ever.
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04-18-2016 , 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Reality
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Originally Posted by RikaKazak
I have windows 7 home premium. 8 GB ram and an AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Processor (2.8 ghz) and a SSD. Is upgrading to things like 16 instead of 8 worth it? (I'm not that good with computers)
Disclaimer: I 2 am not a computer expert, but its seems more likely that its related to a ram problem tehn something like processor speed.

Adding 8g of ram to ur computer(provided it has slots available) is about a $60 and 15 minute fix.

However idk if that will fix your issue, but it seemed to work for me.

Shoot me a pm if you think I can be of any more assistance.

I played 60k of 6 max last month and 30k this month on bovada with little issue fwiw.
User experience with Bovada's software is mixed: from terrible to a bit less than OK (based on reports here and what people say in chat). Given that, Bovada's software sucks. It should be designed to run well on multi-year-old, low-end hardware/OS. But, it is not.

However, it does appear there are configurations which work moderately acceptably.

As an example, I have a few-year-old Dell 9010 (purchased used off eBay >1 year ago, then RAM & SSD upgrade), with a Intel i5-3570 (4 physical cores @ 3.4Ghz), 16GB RAM, SSD, and PCI-E AMD graphics card. It is running Windows 7 Pro 64-bit (all updates applied). Internet is cable.

I routinely play on 7 to 12 tables for several hours a day. While I am doing that, I have a total of 60+ windows open to various other activities (only 7-9 tables while I write this; 58-62 windows open total (I opened and closed a few while switching back and forth doing other things while writing this)).

While I have had some issues from time to time, Bovada usually runs OK (with and without the Casino tab selected). The one time I tried for 13 tables, it did have a significant hanging problem. I had to drop the 4 cash games until I busted out of some tournaments. In addition, I, multiple times a day, use it to play up to 10 tables on my phone while walking around/getting food&drink/using the bathroom, etc. (I just have not had a need to play more than 10 while doing so).

I can play these tables while my machine is doing other things like: downloading and transcoding HD quality video for later playback (it does so in the background when new videos are released/detected). The video download/transcoding happens at unscheduled times and can consume up to 60% of CPU resources. I do not reboot my machine regularly. Usually, just when one update or another requires it.

Dr. Reality and RikaKazak, specifically as to RAM: In Windows, you can determine how much RAM your system is currently using by opening the Windows Task Manager (Windows 7:ALT-CTL-DEL->Start Task Manager) and clicking on the Performance tab. The amount of Physical Memory Available is how much is not being used by applications and the system (except for system caching). You definitely want to have this number above 20% of your total RAM (by adding enough RAM so that is the case). You probably want it to hover around 40%-60% of your total RAM. On my system, the Bovada lobby.exe process is currently using about 850MB of RAM.


Computer recommendations:
Based on my memory of the various usage/problem reports I have read in this thread (and general computer info/experience) I would suggest the following:
  • PC, not Mac
  • Windows 7 Pro/Ultimate 64-bit
  • Intel Core i7, or Core i5
  • 16GB+
  • SSD
  • A desktop instead of a laptop

PC vs Mac: Multiple reports of problems on Macs. In general, Macs tend to be thought of 2nd when developing software due to a smaller installed hardware base.

Why Windows 7 instead of 8 or 10: There are multiple problem reports here mentioning Windows 10. Also, personal preference: I find the user interface design of Windows 10 to be much less productive in a desktop, for my usage. You should be running a 64 bit operating system. You should have been running a 64 bit OS for the last few/several years, if your CPU supports it and you have no compelling reason to run a 32 bit OS.

Why Intel Core i5/i7: My experience is that AMD processor systems are generally a bit less stable (Although, I did use AMD processors for my personal systems for a number of years). You will want a minimum of 2 physical cores. You probably really want 4, or more. The point is that you want excess capacity. Assume that 1 gets used by the OS, 1 by the Bovada software, and you want at least one or two more CPU cores for whatever other processes happen to also be running. [CPU allocation is significantly more complex than that description. But, it is enough with which to move forward.]

Memory: RAM is relatively cheap these days. We don't have enough data that says how much RAM makes a difference. 16GB is a good number that should exceed most requirements. The OS can always use more RAM for caching, so it is not something that is going to go to waste.

SSD: An SSD is the single most user-noticeable performance improvement upgrade. They are cheap at this point. You will want one that has, at lesat enough capacity sufficient for the OS and most of your non-media data. If desired, media (video, pictures, music) can be stored on an external, or second, actual hard drive. As of the last time I looked (beginning of 2016), my personal preference was the Samsung 850 EVO series. But, that series is a somewhat more expensive performance option.

Why a desktop instead of a laptop: Laptops often have custom drivers/software which may restrict your operating system choice and/or cause compatibility problems. Getting a current generation laptop may force you into using Windows 10. The choice of a laptop/desktop may be something which has other, more important, considerations.
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04-18-2016 , 07:25 AM
idiotic schedule change... moved 9:50 bounty and scratched 12:50 and 14:50 bounties.
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04-18-2016 , 08:50 AM
trying to stay humble here, but made 2 final tables yesterday, and both final table chats was disabled. No one was allowed to chat, thought that was weird.

Anyone else think that is strange?
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04-18-2016 , 08:54 AM
It's not strange because it's been the norm for a quite a while. It's to prevent colluding or any kind of soft playing, etc.
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04-18-2016 , 11:38 AM
I have read and am trying to use the "fix" described in post 34088. Unfortunately, I still get the lockups/spinning wheel of death when I take down a table. I set up my 4 tables, but I table hop to bum hunt (maybe I am being punished), and even with the 34088 "fix" I still get lockups. I haven't been patient enough to see if the issue fixes itself. I am still running Yosemite and using a MacBook Pro Retina and iMac 27" Retina, so it isn't a resource issue.
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04-18-2016 , 11:43 AM
If you have a mac your basically SOL. I miss bovada.
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04-18-2016 , 01:32 PM
I've been playing the 1:50 pm EST quadruple up for years and today it is gone. WTF
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04-18-2016 , 04:22 PM
I got banned from bovada a few years ago due to some chargebacks and was wondering if they would unban me if i offered to pay them back.

It was between $80 - $120
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04-18-2016 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ImSryBrovada
I got banned from bovada a few years ago due to some chargebacks and was wondering if they would unban me if i offered to pay them back.

It was between $80 - $120
Pay them back first, and then ask. It will increase your chances.
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