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Originally Posted by CanIlive
Ok lol someone confirm I'm not losing my ish. I have a million hands of nl cash under my belt so this is coming from an experienced player. I've been on this site for a month and I'm noticing some really strange things.
First I've had a number of pots where a player just basically gave me money. Now I mean for instance when I have quad aces on an AAK board..the pot is $20 and the player in front of me insta shoves for $89 with j4 off. And I've seen and been involved in a number of pots that resemble that.
Second is the player who is trapping with the nuts before having anything that resembles a hand. Like in a pot where a guy limps with 47off in a full ring game. He gets raised 6x..there's a call behind and then he min 4 bets??? Then the flop is 356 and he's shoving into KK and QQ. And once again I've seen a number of pots where a player is trapping long before he ever gets the nuts.
It's just really strange. Can anyone confirm this so I don't sound like a flake? Let me be clear that I do very well on bovada but can't help my suspicion here.
Sorry for my delayed response...here is some info:
Yes, I have seen both of these happen not hundreds, but thousands of times in the past 18 months. Many players have extra cash they dont mind losing and I suspect they enjoy the thrill of trying to bully the "flop raiser" in a hand into folding. Also, many players go all in preflop with junk and it turns into a straight (as I will show examples of below). They often are trying to steal the original mini-raisers chips preflop along with the blinds, or they think (in a huge betting battle pre) that if 1-2-3 people are betting heavy pre, those players likely have AK or 10-10+ hands, which often end up as one pair, and their suited tiny connectors COULD become a flush or straight, thus stacking people and getting the gambler into the chip lead. Or they are just complete donkheads.
I am tracking my Mini Series results. I have success often in Bovada, but haven't gotten past first hour in ANY Mini Series event, which defies all logic. Here is what happened to me...these are ALL of the big hands in my MiniSeries events. I won ZERO big pots, ever, in the Mini Series this month. Craziness and variance abound in Bovada land:
1) My QQ < AA. AIPF. Happens occasionally, right? Oh well. On to the next event..
2) My QQ < AQ AIPF
3) My QQ < A6o AIPF. 3 outers abound, and players who think they are CALLING my all in while they THINK they have a stronger hand than me.
4) My A-10 < 99 AIPF. My mistake. Oh, and if I had shoved my 99 preflop at the WSOP Main Event satellite final table last month, I would be at the main event right now darn it. Woulda sukkked out on a QQ...I knew I was behind, so I folded. Too much clear thinking late in that $500-entry tourney.
5) My AA < 33 AIPF. I did not have a small stack, and he had a huge stack, so he was taking chances.
6) My 10-10 < AQ when I bet huge (6x pot) AFTER a 3-6-9 rainbow flop. Donk called me, got an Ace river, and of course he played himself out of the tournament 3 minutes later.
7) My A2 < A3 in small preflop pot, we both shoved after 2-3-A flop. Same thing happened to me late in a live tourney a few months ago. I hate that situation more than most other ways of losing.
8) My AQ < KJ
9) My 88 < J9o AIPF J9 was chip leader, gambling with excess chips.
10) my AA < KQ AIPF so annoying
11) My AA < AQ AIPF he rivered a flush
12) My KK < AA AIPF happens so often
13) My AA < 3-7o of the chip leader. He shoves pre to steal, I call in the BB, and see a 4-5-J-6 flop and turn.
So after this I was finally crushing a tourney, the $6,000 guaranteed ($8k actual) 21:30 $11 tourney Sunday, top 5 stack when the Bovada site crashed for most people. They gave me $21, which is soooooo wrong. I looked at the HH, and all of us but one guy were disconnected. He won 58 out of 60 hands in 10 minutes, and went from $14k chips (I had $33K) to $109k. And saw that some guy in St Louis made an extra $20,000 because everyone but him was disconnected from the $100K final table. This is so terribly unfair, but Bovada doesnt seem to want to do any payouts based on chipcount proportions if more than zero people are still able to connect.
So I kept plugging away and finally won another tournament last night in a swift 5 hours and 22 minutes. Right after I went all in in the MiniSeries 8pm event with JJ vs QJ. He got his 3 outer and had 5x the avg stack, then he went busto less than 4 minutes later LOL.
Variance. Is. Stressful.