The full review is even better. They go from a constant slow paying D-(in april and may) to an F(in june) to offline for a time and then back with the B+ rating in september with no explanation, no reports of players being paid. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/sbr/betonline/
And this page on the same site lists them as one of the 5 worst online scam sportsbooks. http://www.sportsbookreview.com/News...oks-avoid.aspx

WOW I did not realize this that is really really ****ty. If I would of known the prior history or researched it more then the B+ would have been worthless to me .

I think those might be two different sites - Betonline.com and Betonline247.com.

Looks like updates for both are mixed together under the betonline page.

Yeah two different sites, those pages work like a search engine

Man, I guess you will not get paid finally, just look what happened to me. SBR will always root for BetOnline.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...-me-11-4k.html

Yalli,
I'm poster C.S. at SBR, did BOL ever give you your HH as proof?

yalil it looks as though they gave you the hh why don't you post them here. Based on what i saw on sbr dosen't look like op has a chance. Betonline is shady as shady can be. They said yalil was part of an 8 player chip dumping ring yet didn't show any evidence to back that up. Just unreal.

Still have not recieved any hand histories from BetOnline which is an absolute joke. In addition I still have not heard back from SBR yet.


Also I just realized that one thing I never put in my threads/OP was that this was my second deposit on BetOnline. A few weeks prior to the second one I made the same $1200 deposit and jumped into the 1000nl games right away and lost it. I decided to deposit again the second time and that is when I ran up a bankroll on the site. I really do not think this is even relevant, but again I am trying to put every single piece of information I have out there.

It seems so bizarre that even though they are doing an audit, they can't just send you the HH's.

Ya especially when they froze my funds over a week ago and I have been asking ever since November 11th for the hand histories. Such a joke.

Update: SBR Lou posted this in my SBR (sports book review) thread this morning "We spoke with mgt. again this morning, BetOnline is still completing the audit." Will see what happens ...

Greg,
Didn't they already do an audit? You wouldn't be in this position if someone didn't go over your account/HH's and decided you were dumping. So, is this the audit of the audit? Also, in one of the other threads SBR mentioned BOL said an 8 person fraud ring. Are they linking you with these other players?

I have no idea what "audit" means, I assumed this means they are reviewing my account. Also I am assuming this is the first time they are reviewing my account and are still not done with it because I have not heard otherwise from Lou or BetOnline.

As in regards to the "8 cheating ring" I have no clue what that is and have not been told anything about this at all so I am pretty sure they are not linking me to whatever that is.

You say this like you know it to be true. Give more details.

I don't know anything. However, IMO for them to have shut down his account it seems only logical for some person of authority to looked at it and thought something looked like fraud. They already looked into the account once when they shut it down, which is why Greg is in this situation. I question what the term "audit" means in this case... I would hope they did a proper audit before they locked up his account and his money.
FWIW, I 100% believe Greg and hope he gets his money ASAP.
Sorry if it didn't sound that way.

OP:

Allowing BetOnline (which allows players from USA) to become a skin on APN is evidence of how severe APN's financial difficulties have become, since they have been careful in not accepting US players up until this time. However, I don't agree that APN are "Serious crooks!" I have played on various APN sites for almost 10 years, and other than some recent problems involving their affiliate program, I have yet to hear of a single player that hasn't received (eventually) their requested payouts. I have withdrawn nearly 100K over the time I've played there as a recreational player and just received a payment for 1.5K yesterday. Since they have began to struggle financially, the payouts (especially larger ones) are often extremely slow (sometimes taking up to 2 months) so they are obviously stalling withdrawals to stay afloat, but that doesn't necessarily make them shady. Desperate? Indeed! AP/UB-like? No way!

So what's my point? Well, in order for BetOnline (which had a seemingly okay reputation) to become involved with such a financially desperate site such as APN, they are obviously in dire straits financially as well. However, unlike APN, they indeed appear to be a bunch of "extremely shady" and "serious crooks"! So if I was out 65K from playing on BetOnline, I would try to get in touch with management at Playsafe Holdings (Ben Johansen or Atle Bie Johansen) and explain your situation concerning their arrangement with BetOnline and what is happening to the players' funds on BetOnline. Just from reading the one email from Monty Barnes, I can tell you're going to be "rowing upstream without a paddle" in dealing with BetOnline directly.

FYI, players are able to retrieve HHs directly from all APN sites.

Perhaps by contacting APN's Live Support or by emailing operations@actionpokernetwork.com they would be able to retreive them for you.

How does BOL get away with taking USA players action when they are on a network that does not allow USA players?

LOL...are you serious?

LOL...are you serious?

Its time to climb out from beneath the rock you're living under.

that second email from betonline is probably one of the most disrespectful emails i've ever read. i cant believe they said they need to help other "legit" players first, insinuiating youre a crook. cearly an example of an email where you want to reach across the screen and choke out the sender.

Doctoring HHs takes time.

By pretending they're not IMO.

This has been linked to previously...but its very important to this thread

http://sportsbettingsites.org/betonl...ker-rogue-341/

One thing I find a bit confusing is why you refer to the table limits as 1000NL etc. when they are actually labelled as $5/10NL etc. I understand they mean the same thing, but why are you referring to them other than how BetOnline lists them?