Completely agree with you. However, I thought sports book review (SBR) was a legitimate review and still do believe it is, so them having a B+ review on their was more comforting to me at the time than other reviews, and considering I filed the report with them if I am still scammed and not payed after all of this they better be downgraded to an F.

Pretty ****ty situation, hope it gets resolved soon.

Just thought i'd say that I have known Greg for a while now and have no doubt he is being completely honest and straightforward about this situation. We talk almost every day mostly discussing hands and strategy and such. I've never had any indication of him being anything less than a stand up trustworthy guy.

I really hope this all gets worked out soon

Yes, SBR is supposed to be pretty reputable AFAIK.

Until someone actually hunts down a poker site CEO, and actually kills them/their colleagues in retribution for getting screwed over, this sort of crap will continue to happen

SBR needs to downgrade their BetOnline rating immediately due to this, the fact that a lot of players have had issues cashing out(even though most on here got their money having to file an SBR complaint and post on 2p2 to get a cashout is ridiculous), and the fact they have lied about the Network they are on.

The SBR B+ rating is instilling false confidence in people. They should be downgraded immediately and if they do not pay or cooperate with this investigation they should be downgraded to an F(unless they provide clear proof of wrongdoing) .

While SBR is typically reputable I've heard grumblings about their rating of BetOnline not being completely subjective. Obviously this could just be people talking but at the same time there have been a lot of complaints against BetOnline when players have attempted to Cashout. Not to mention that they have lied to every player about the Network they are on, for which I know 110% SBR IS aware of and they do not feel it was important even though the Network they are on, and hiding from, has been insolvent for a long time!

lol sbr sold their ass down the river. they're most prob getting money from advertising bet online so ofc they want to keep the rating high

I wanted to post another email, again telling me they would send me the hand histories by the end of yesterday. I still have not recieved any hand histories. Here is the email http://imgur.com/t25ze.

^^ that email tilts the hell out of me,

"keep in mind your not our only customer we have legit players with claims as well"

Taking this sort of tone when not providing any proof is pretty obnoxious imo

Ya truly unbelievable the emails and chat logs I have had with them. The only reason I have not released every single email and chat log is because sports book review (SBR) is reviewing my claim currently, and I want to see what the resolution will be there and do not want to mess up their investigation. If they are unable to resolve this and I am still not paid the money I am owed I will release every single chat log and email in this thread.

SBR still has Betfair as an A room, even after all of their thefts, retroactive premium charges and slow paying a $3,100,000 winner. While SBR is a great resource, their grades are not always correct.

Betonline spends all their money mailing stupid odds books to my house to pay out their players apparently. I swear I get more crap from them in the mail than is probably legal....fwiw I've never bet or played poker with them. Probably bodog or sportsbook.com sold them my personal info....asshats

You're right. I shouldn't have even mentioned the fact that it had todays date on it. Obviously, I didn't think that I just happened on a review of that site that was written earlier today.

So, my bad if anybody took that as an inference that the review was written today (but from reading posts here, I doubt anybody thought that is what I meant).

I also agree with what you wrote in the rest of your post. Now that the room choices have become so small for American players.....do you have any sites to recommend for American players?

Or can you do that as I see your massive amount of posts & your name in blue which I think means you are a moderator or an administrator of this site?

Pretty brutal the guy handling this for you isn't even intelligent enough to construct a grammatically correct sentence. "Hi its sorry you say that." Genius.

GL OP

i used to bet sports on betonline. like most sports bettors i am a losing one not big just 20 dollar bets or so to make some games more interesting to watch but this sportsbook annoys the hell out of me i will never give it any more action. phone calls, mailers, emails and now text messages constantly...

Exactly the same thing happened to me.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...11-4k-1120651/

I am waiting for the updates on SBR.

Yeah, that doesn't speak well for their accuracy then, which is a shame.

Mod/admin/salesperson, but that doesn't often stop me from giving an honest opinion.

I think US players have to recognize that their money is not going to be completely safe anywhere with the current US law enforcement climate. Players need to be cautious, and understand that any money they put online has some risk attached to it. But of course there are risks to many things in life, and many players have decided to manage their risk and continue playing.

Pretty much every site has its upsides and downsides. Cake has one of the poorer reputations now, mostly since Lee Jones left. There was that terribly mishandled $50 K/$60 K thread, or whatever it was, and they are well-known for very slow cashouts. Intertops is a Cake skin that advertises with us and has a support thread here; they are one of the only skins on Cake that has their own cashier, which seems to be a substantial improvement, and I haven't seen any big complaints about Intertops here - on the contrary, their thread seems pretty positive. Other than that, I don't think any one network has a widespread reputation of being any less reputable than another.

If it were me, I'd be sticking with one of the skins that has a thread here, or at the very least a site rep. All 5 of the biggest US networks has at least one skin represented here. Of course I'm biased, but I don't think I'm the only one who has given this advice. I'm sure there are many other fine skins that we never hear from, but I know I'd much rather play somewhere that I know I can come to 2+2 and get answers, and that the reps will be striving to give good service to maintain a good reputation on these forums.

Cliffs: Be cautious, do your research, and manage your risk.

I've been reading the post trend I got to page 2. I work for BetOnline ready to answer questions Shoot

is it not obvis what the questions are going to resolve around..

what the **** is happening!?

by the wasy..if you fo work for BOL...congrats on making an appearance.

I figured it'll be good to hear the whole version. It is true the hand history hasn't been sent this is because our Security Department has failed to provide me the Ip Logs that I requested and that are needed for us to send the HH. This is because they were working on other claims as well, that part its our Fault. The player in question was in the receiving end of the CD. And as soon as the HH is sent you will all see that this claim has no base.

this is exactly what we expect and why we are so outraged.
I guess that isn't what you wanted to say though. :-)

thankyou for posting and hopefully being able to shed some light on this. This all sounds VERY disturbing, especially since OP doesn't seem to be the only victim of these 'situations'.

BOLPoker507 has been banned until he emails us so we can verify he's legit.

I think BOLPoker means that op's claim will have no base once the hh's have been reviewed. Easy solution, send the hh's already, its not that hard.

yeah I know what he meant but I liked the way he phrased it. ;-)

I have been asking for the hand histories straight for 6 days and still have not recieved them ... Not that hard to figure out what the problem is here.

I have never heard of any poker room's customer support wording a sentence like that, even when speaking to confirmed cheaters. That is completely unacceptable and out of line.

What tilts the hell out of me is that the emails (and the posts in this thread by that suspicious account BOLPoker507) are written by someone who consistently makes run-on, punctuation, and usage errors (your/you're to/too).



Multiple replies from trustworthy sources in this thread suggest that SBR is bought and paid for in some capacity. I doubt you would be compromising a serious investigation which has any chance of recovering your funds by posting your entire exchange here, particularly after you already outlined everything that happened in these exchanges in great detail. The worst case scenario is that you are buying them time to fabricate excuses. If BetOnline pays for ads at SBR and there have already been a variety of people with issues with BetOnline who have presumably reported them to SBR, no offense intended to you but it doesn't seem like they would change that "B+" over this particular case either.

Also, while I believe your story and this thread is a shining example of what to post and what detail to go into when you are being scammed by a site, I think it would still help your case if a supermod would check the IPs of the two people who posted here to vouch for you and make sure they are not accounts you control.