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07-21-2014 , 12:18 PM
LTU, I read my earlier post and see how you would think that of me re abuse. I like good banter but would never use abusive language. One of the reasons i play here is there is no chat on tables. I do not have a problem with chat per say as long as it does not appear next to a player on a table. On the side is fine when you have an option to switch it off.
Andrew, On the ratholing, I was advised by cs when i joined that this could not happen. My personal view is it's wrong. I have never seen this tolerated in a real cash game in a public venue or a private one. That's a view point, not a criticism. My annoyance in earlier post was a player had good cards and some luck and did this at least 5 times in a space of 15 to 20 mins and came back with same alias seconds after leaving each time. My point was he could at least have had the good grace to change his alias a couple of times.
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07-21-2014 , 12:29 PM
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And tbh, recreational players don't care much about chat anyways, they'd only fancy some funny emoticons ...
Yeh, perhaps literally smily faces or similar could work.

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Andrew, On the ratholing, I was advised by cs when i joined that this could not happen. My personal view is it's wrong. I have never seen this tolerated in a real cash game in a public venue or a private one. That's a view point, not a criticism. My annoyance in earlier post was a player had good cards and some luck and did this at least 5 times in a space of 15 to 20 mins and came back with same alias seconds after leaving each time. My point was he could at least have had the good grace to change his alias a couple of times.
Thanks, it looks like we need to educate someone in CS.

The thing with ratholing is that I don't think it harms anyone's EV - once money is lost, it's lost. I think it's just a rule that's in place because people perceive it as unfair, but it isn't actually.

If enough people want it then we can definitely look into changing it. It's come up a couple of times.
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07-21-2014 , 02:30 PM
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If enough people want it then we can definitely look into changing it. It's come up a couple of times.
I think it's perfect the way it is.
If recreational players don't wanna play +50bb, why force them?

Unhappy regs will keep playing despite frustration, on the other hand the recreational players might leave the game if they don't feel relax playing deep...which would be bad for Unibet AND the regs.
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07-21-2014 , 04:19 PM
"act when two players in front of you have put the same amount of money into the pot as each other" means raise ? sorry i don't know exactly what to do here :/
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07-22-2014 , 01:10 AM
Hi Andrew,
Thank you very much for the tickets.
Can you please tell me how much i raked this month? Same allias milioanele .
Thank you.
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07-22-2014 , 04:57 AM
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I think it's perfect the way it is.
If recreational players don't wanna play +50bb, why force them?

Unhappy regs will keep playing despite frustration, on the other hand the recreational players might leave the game if they don't feel relax playing deep...which would be bad for Unibet AND the regs.
I think it's probably unhappy casual players more than regs - regs shouldn't really care because it doesn't change their EV.

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"act when two players in front of you have put the same amount of money into the pot as each other" means raise ? sorry i don't know exactly what to do here :/
So if I limp UTG, fasteR overlimps UTG+1, and you are in the CO it triggers the Challenge for you. Also if I raise UTG, fasteR calls, it triggers for you.

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Can you please tell me how much i raked this month? Same allias milioanele
Sure - €1791.44 raked so far this month in cash games, plus €3 in MTT and €0.49 in SNG.
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07-22-2014 , 05:54 AM
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I think it's probably unhappy casual players more than regs - regs shouldn't really care because it doesn't change their EV.
That was my point.
I think it would actually be -ev for regs if Unibet forced (like many other sites do) casual players to play deeper than they want...
That's why it should stay the way it is now imho
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07-22-2014 , 06:35 AM
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Sure - €1791.44 raked so far this month in cash games, plus €3 in MTT and €0.49 in SNG.
Wow, thats insane for playing micros.Do you even sleep?
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07-22-2014 , 06:40 AM
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Hi Andrew, do you know what the average h/hour is at the cash table ? (holdem particularly)
I needed to figure this out for something else, so I'll post it here too. I played 4x NL4 tables for 31 minutes and played 169 hands. That includes time to sit in and sit out and a table closing.

That works out as about 82 hands/hour/table. Obviously this is going to vary a bit but I imagine the real answer is 80-90 hands/hour/table.
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07-22-2014 , 07:35 AM
I don't know whether this has been talked about before but for me, for the last couple of days it's been really annoying. Anyone else feel the same?

I have been playing with a couple of guys (could bet it's the same guy) that for some reason plays 90% of hands the same way: use time, use time bank, a second after the timebank expires and he sits out, he sits in and plays the next hand the same way. It's at NL25 and NL50.

I guess normal time is for everyone to use as they wish, but maybe time bank should be like 30s for every 1h or similar?
Or, once someone sits out, he is forced to start at next BB?

If it's only me that is bothered by this, I'll survive but I hope I'm not the only one to feel this way.
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07-22-2014 , 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by LTU Westham
I don't know whether this has been talked about before but for me, for the last couple of days it's been really annoying. Anyone else feel the same?

I have been playing with a couple of guys (could bet it's the same guy) that for some reason plays 90% of hands the same way: use time, use time bank, a second after the timebank expires and he sits out, he sits in and plays the next hand the same way. It's at NL25 and NL50.

I guess normal time is for everyone to use as they wish, but maybe time bank should be like 30s for every 1h or similar?
Or, once someone sits out, he is forced to start at next BB?

If it's only me that is bothered by this, I'll survive but I hope I'm not the only one to feel this way.
I have noticed this a lot in tournaments people seem to use the full timer every go, the first had seems to take half an hour, especially when the disconnect timer starts. Not normally that bad on the cash tables.

I have heard my friend swearing at the fast cash games and saying why play fast cash if your going to let the timer run out every time.
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07-22-2014 , 08:52 AM
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Wow, thats insane for playing micros.Do you even sleep?
Everytime i play a session he is at every table i am at Not alot of sleep i guess
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07-22-2014 , 09:36 AM
Hi Andrew,

Could I change my 10 x 1e tickets to a 10e SnG ticket please? Alias WWFCBlue

Thanks
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07-22-2014 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by LTU Westham
I have been playing with a couple of guys (could bet it's the same guy) that for some reason plays 90% of hands the same way: use time, use time bank, a second after the timebank expires and he sits out, he sits in and plays the next hand the same way. It's at NL25 and NL50.
We talked about this a while ago in this thread, and we've had some internal discussions too. I believe there will be a couple of timebank changes coming up in the next release that should help, then we'll see where we are after that.

Do you have an alias of this player?

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I have heard my friend swearing at the fast cash games and saying why play fast cash if your going to let the timer run out every time.
Yeh, asides from just upsetting our players, it costs us money directly too. So it's definitely something we're interested in looking at.

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Could I change my 10 x 1e tickets to a 10e SnG ticket please?
Sorry, I'm not changing any Unibet Open tickets that were credited after the 9th of July:

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OK, ticket converting is getting a bit out of hand. From now on, I will exchange any tickets EXCEPT for Unibet Open ones. I don't mind changing 10x €1 UBO to 1x €10 UBO (etc), but I will stop changing 10x €1 UBO for 1x €10 SNG (etc). If I don't do this then all I'll be doing is converting tickets. In a few weeks we'll bring back "Road To Cannes" or a variant of it, and it'll get even worse then.
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From this point onwards, I will only change UBO tickets to non-UBO if the ticket was earned today or earlier. I will change non-UBO tickets however anyone likes, and I will change UBO tickets to other denominations of UBO tickets.
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Thought I'd just warn anyone again who hasn't read up that far - I don't plan to convert any UBO tickets that were credited before today, except to exchange them for different denomination UBO tickets. I'll continue with regular tickets as usual.
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07-22-2014 , 12:39 PM
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We talked about this a while ago in this thread, and we've had some internal discussions too. I believe there will be a couple of timebank changes coming up in the next release that should help, then we'll see where we are after that.

Do you have an alias of this player?
Thanks, great news. Maybe they (he) just have connection issues because I played with one today and he would sit out only every 4th hand or so.

Anyway, sent PM with aliases.

BTw, if you play shorthanded, like 4, first position is UTG or CO? (Challenges)

BTW, atm Double Troube reg is closed. 41 players, chipstacks are not updating. Is it because everyone's a winner already?

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07-22-2014 , 01:48 PM
I too have noticed the slow play, particularly later at night. we all get timed out playing too many tables but it seemed as though it was deliberate. Normally the pace of cash games is really good.

I wonder if this has happened to anyone else. One of the cash omaha 10 suddenly closed. I re opened it and some time later the same happened again. I am playing 4 tables and tired so more than likely its me clicking something accidentally but just checking.
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07-22-2014 , 01:52 PM
I'm experiencing a problem playing on browser these days.
Fairly regularly, every day between 9AM-15PM, (cash) table will freeze at one point, and there's nothing I can do to fix it than wait 10-15 mins before it becomes normal again. I tried exiting and reopening browser window, but it doesn't help.
It looks like some players are gone, but they're actually playing, and I can't see my cards but blinds will be posted for me. The worst is if this happens when I'm in the hand..

Please look into it.
I'm playing browser edition on Win XP computer
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07-22-2014 , 02:34 PM
Hey, Andrew.

just had my biggest beat on Unibet probably..
Last week was pretty brutal, I got an entry to Double Trouble.
Tourney started, 41 players. I played a few hands but had a session running and figured that as we're all winners, what's the point of wasting focus on extra table.
Next thing I know, after an hour I'm informed that I finished 56th...


Is there any way out of this?
At least an entry to next Double Trouble?
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07-22-2014 , 04:35 PM
think you definitely shouldn't add NL1k, as you#d then be offering similar stakes to a lot of other sites, and even slightly higher than party for example. i think atm a lot of good midstakes regs are dissuaded by the nl400 cap.

not sure about nl600. it might be just right for me personally, but perhaps it would make a significant amount of strong regulars join.


also: regarding unibet open in Cannes,
will there be cashgames running on the side? and if so, what stakes?
is it being held in a casino?

Last edited by Keruli; 07-22-2014 at 04:43 PM.
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07-22-2014 , 05:38 PM
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The ones that you only need to hit once are going to have the highest variance. I'm afraid you fell on the unlucky side of this one, but in the long term it should work out.
About things like the challenge Have two pair on the flop counterfit with both holecards and reach flop 3 of a kind. Is this calculated for 100% vpip or more realistic 25% vpip? Cant same to hit any of them (the major 1x), even brings down my ambition to grind.
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07-22-2014 , 06:16 PM
Ye the major challenges feel more like a punishment to me aswell. Reducing the points you get from them and reducing the amount of hands needed to complete them would be a big plus imo. I dont see any recreational completing 1 major challenge over a quarter
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07-22-2014 , 07:51 PM
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think you definitely shouldn't add NL1k, as you#d then be offering similar stakes to a lot of other sites, and even slightly higher than party for example. i think atm a lot of good midstakes regs are dissuaded by the nl400 cap
Who said that Unibet actually wants to attract regs? The whole approach with the new software client caters to recreational players. And it only makes sense to add stakes when you have the traffic for it, which is rather unlikely so far.
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also: regarding unibet open in Cannes,
will there be cashgames running on the side? and if so, what stakes?
is it being held in a casino?
Here is the link for the event.
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07-22-2014 , 09:00 PM
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About things like the challenge Have two pair on the flop counterfit with both holecards and reach flop 3 of a kind. Is this calculated for 100% vpip or more realistic 25% vpip? Cant same to hit any of them (the major 1x), even brings down my ambition to grind.
And there was my KKK flop. Complain' helps, another proof.

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Ye the major challenges feel more like a punishment to me aswell. Reducing the points you get from them and reducing the amount of hands needed to complete them would be a big plus imo. I dont see any recreational completing 1 major challenge over a quarter
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07-22-2014 , 09:59 PM
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Who said that Unibet actually wants to attract regs? The whole approach with the new software client caters to recreational players. And it only makes sense to add stakes when you have the traffic for it, which is rather unlikely so far.

Here is the link for the event.
i know.... you misinterpreted my post

thanks for the link.
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07-23-2014 , 05:54 AM
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Hey, Andrew.

just had my biggest beat on Unibet probably..
Last week was pretty brutal, I got an entry to Double Trouble.
Tourney started, 41 players. I played a few hands but had a session running and figured that as we're all winners, what's the point of wasting focus on extra table.
Next thing I know, after an hour I'm informed that I finished 56th...


Is there any way out of this?
At least an entry to next Double Trouble?
This is because the lobby doesn't update correctly. When I joined there were 36, when I looked it told me there were 49 runners, when you open another lobby and then return to this game it's 89. It's annoying, but as I know it's a fault I knew what I had to do. I don't know if Andrew has this on the list to fix.
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