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Old 02-10-2010, 05:16 AM   #1
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UB client keylogging?

Does anyone else find it strange that the UB client now screenscrapes and logs keystrokes? And it does that even when I'm not playing, like if I have a lobby open. To me that's somewhat invasive considering that I might be also doing other stuff on the computer that I don't necessarily want to share with Cereus staff. What do others think about it?
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:56 AM   #2
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Re: UB client keylogging?

Screenscrapes = screenshots?

How did you find out that UB is logging keystrokes?
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:58 AM   #3
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Re: UB client keylogging?

mate your avatar is epic. Vwp.
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Old 02-10-2010, 06:46 AM   #4
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Re: UB client keylogging?

I found out because yesterday after the update from UB, Kaspersky has been reporting keylogger four times, every time after starting the UB client. This is the first time I've seen Kaspersly report a keylogger after months of using the UB client.

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Old 02-10-2010, 08:10 AM   #5
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Re: UB client keylogging?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...sticky-251207/

And, you better post a question in the software forum. This may be someone else.
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Old 02-10-2010, 02:14 PM   #6
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Re: UB client keylogging?

I was wondering the same thing. I use different virus protection software that alerts me when sites or applications are trying to log my keystrokes or other activity (IE...malicious ware)....it flagged UB right off the bat after yesterday's update. I work in the software industry and remembered having a conversation with a development manager saying that this kind of monitoring is illegal? Is it? I know UB and other poker sites have some rights to protect their gaming policy, but is this stepping over the line? Just curious.
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:01 PM   #7
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Re: UB client keylogging?

Another update today, anyone wanna run this through the scanner and see what you get?
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Old 02-10-2010, 04:41 PM   #8
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Re: UB client keylogging?

You are now chatting with '[redacted]'
[redacted]: Thank you for contacting our Support Department, how may I help you?
Me: Is it true that the update yesterday included the ability for UB staff to obtain desktop screen shots?
[redacted]: no, that is not true
[redacted]: Is there anything else we can assist you with?
Me: so you are denying this screen shot is accurate?
Me: http://www.greedysoul.co.uk/downloads/Image3.png
Me: http://www.247charlotte.mobi/images/ub3.jpg - blocked illegal screen access, bottom line of SnoopFree window
[redacted]: our software does not take screen shots
Me: Will there be an announcement regarding what the update was today? I have not seen one as of yet
[redacted]: let me check if here is some info on the site regarding this
[redacted]: http://www.ultimatebet.com/support/software-updates
Me: I believe that was yesterday, I recieved another update today
[redacted]: yes, some of the updates were Table Skins for the jave version, Resize---Tiling/Cascading and Forgot Password Redesign
[redacted]: the Poker Software Updates page will be updated soon
Me: but just to clarify, there has been no addition of a screen grabber or a key logger
[redacted]: no, there are no type of key loggers or screen grabbers
Me: thank you for your time
[redacted]: you're welcome

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Old 02-10-2010, 05:12 PM   #9
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Re: UB client keylogging?

Rigged

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Old 02-10-2010, 05:15 PM   #10
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Re: UB client keylogging?

FWIW I clicked "deny access" on the SnoopFree popup telling me UB client was trying to read my screen, and I immediately got kicked out with a msg box telling me my account was suspended for security review.

Here's the mail I got from them :

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Hello xxx,

I hope you are doing great!

Our Security Department has placed a temporary block in your account; therefore, you are unable to login right now. This was done, as we are currently reviewing all those players' accounts who use a third party software or calculator within the CEREUS poker network. We appreciate the fact you are contacting us in regard to this matter.

This investigation might take some time, but rest assured we will be getting a hold of you as soon as we have more information about it. Thanks for your patience.

Contact us again at any time you want. We will be glad to help you out.

Regards,

Fabio

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Old 02-10-2010, 06:54 PM   #11
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Re: UB client keylogging?

VIP Host: We implemented a new Security tool to ensure that we continue having a safe and secure environment which prohibits the use of any software or tool to calculate odds to be used along with AP/UB
ME: What exactly does this tool do?
VIP Host: Basically, it does not let you run a third party software or tool to calculate odds while you are playing at UB.Com or any other site within CEREUS
ME: And in order to accomplish that, its going to track everything I do on my computer while UB is running?
VIP Host: No, actually this will only block the third party applications. Some anti viruses might recognize the new security tool in the game application as a thread, but it’s not. It’s completely secure and it helps us prevent the players from using any software
VIP Host: No, what you type or do in your computer is personal and we are not able to track it. This is your information, is personal and we do not mess with it. It just blocking third party applications.
VIP Host: Exactly, please do not worry about it. Everything is completely safe
ME: Where can I find a list of these third party applications?
VIP Host: We are in the process of determining which software will be allowed and which won’t.
VIP Host: There will be an official statement shortly which will surely clear out any doubt that you may have.
VIP Host: Right now, you will not be able to run third party applications. Once we determined which ones will be allowed, you will be able to run them without problems.
ME: Any idea if HEM will still be allowed?
VIP Host: Not, yet. You will be informed.
ME: How long?
VIP Host: I would say within this or the next week at the most.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:06 PM   #12
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Re: UB client keylogging?

online poker is not corrupt at all
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:10 PM   #13
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Re: UB client keylogging?

lol at them not knowing if HEM is allowed.

I don't play on AP/UB obv.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:13 PM   #14
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Re: UB client keylogging?

LOL, beautiful policy implementation at Cereus like usual. Ban all third-party applications, then decide which ones to allow. Sweet.

You know when some of you guys ask what else has happened there aside from the cheating scandals? Yeah, this is a perfect example of the kind of stupid crap they pull all the time.
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Old 02-10-2010, 07:16 PM   #15
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Re: UB client keylogging?

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Basically, it does not let you run a third party software or tool to calculate odds
So I frequently have the Windows application "calc.exe" running while playing on Stars and FTP... is this not okay if I decided to start playing again on AP/UB?
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