My bad. Shouldn't have stated what I heard as fact.

Good to see more high stakes action. Now it's been 2-7 triple draw lately.

It was years ago Micon sent me a hat/patch/u.s. currency.

So I don't know if anyone else has noticed as the play and I'll try to grab a screenshot when it happens, but every so often I'll be playing and when there is a shuffle or at the end/beginning of a hand you can see a series of cards in the right hand side of your screen when your playing. This seems kind of worrying from a standpoint of playing on the site....... I've enjoyed paying on the site with bitcoin for the longest because of the game type selection and just in general, it just seemed odd to me....?

After thinking about it and rereading my post for clarity it the thing I have seen shows up in the bottom right of the screen and appears to be down cards or maybe the deck.....? Hopefully this isn't the case.........

Hello everybody.

So I've been toying with the idea of playing on SWC but I don't yet have BTC or even a wallet.

Where would I go if I wanted to transfer some microstakes amounts (say $50 which is, as I understand it, about 24chips?) from Stars to SWC?

I'd obviously send money first.

The easiest thing would be if stars had a bitcoin cashout option but I don't think they do. People will tell you to use blockchain and other free wallets but for 50 bucks your best off just setting up a seals acct and using that as your wallet.

Maybe you can transfer/trade stars money for bitcoin but if I were you I would just go to coinbase with a cc, buy 50bucks worth, pay the 4% fee, then send that btc to your seals wallet. If you are doing this frequently you should use an intermediary wallet but for this one time I'd just ship it./

how hi have they been playing? every time I randomly check I haven't seen much

They have been playing the highest limits available which are 60/120 for 27TD and 300/600 for flh. This is approx 150/300USD and 750/1.5kUSD limits

It does not go off much but there is clearly a group of 4 or 5 high stakes players.

How fast are payouts? How is it for mid stake Heads Up? Peak hours/players? Thanks guys

You'd find the Person to Person transfer thread in this forum - it's the thread with over 160,000 posts and is almost always on the front page of the forum. Read the first post before using it.

Couple hours usually.

Bumhunters galore, but you can change this by playing.

Downtime is like 2am est through 11am est. However sometimes games go all night through the morning.

As far as HUHU tables, I feel those guys don't get much action. Always seed at a 6 or 9 handed table, and it will be hu action 90% of the time anyway unless you are seeding the micros. You can't be afraid of 3-handed poker in 2017.

The traffic is always low but there is a surprising amount of new players because it's worldwide and people know about bitcoin and then find out about seals. Sure some of these are new emails of same acct but I can scroll over people's avatar and see their krill and I get a ton of new accts at low stakes.

You have to develop a rep too to get action more frequently. For example, if I seed two tables of the same stake but different games, no matter who plays me I will give them a minimum of 20 mins of action and usually over an hour.

Also, I try to seed only a couple tables. It looks ridiculous and desperately predatory when people seed like 40 different stakes. It's like do you want to play 100/200 or 2/4?? Okay both but seed every freaking limit in between as well?

Lastly, you gotta manage expectations when you sign up for seals. It's a background activity. In other words if you log on and seed and expect action you might get disappointed; but if watching a movie or working or playing other sites with seals in the background you will have a better experience.

Thanks for the helps bros...

+1 they payout within hours as others have reported and I can confirm

Also I had a moderate issue with them that had occurred multiple times. Before the software was fixed to randomize the button, a few villains literally sat and played 1 hand against me (their button of course) and then immediately left.

After the 3rd time it happened, I emailed them and was incensed. I insisted on some compensation, as their software glitch (now fixed) allowed the grimstarr bs.

They thanked me for helping to start games and offered me 100k krill as compensation! That raised my rb from 19% to 27%. When playing shorthanded that means I get 77% rb, including the table starter.

They have the best customer service I've experienced. There's action every day in mix games, even in the summer, though not always at the highest stakes. As BTC becomes more mainstream as a method of payment, I think the traffic will keep growing.

Have they changed the tournament structures yet? The mixed game tournaments were a lot of fun, but they play almost like a turbo or even a hyper turbo. I'd like my fun to last a little longer and the fast blinds reduce a lot of play.

They need some decent gtd tournaments to generate traffic imo. Carbon has a large plo8 tournament pool and consistent stud8 and horse pools as well it seems. There is online interest for playing mixed games but the structures and payouts have to be good.

I think having a weekly 400 chip guaranteed tournaments for the HORSE, 8game and 10game variants would bring lots of traffic in. Especially on Sundays when all the tournament grinders are online.

Are there 0 players connected or is it just me ?

No see the yellow box in bottom left?

@Macau - wow I thought I had a good relationship with seals email support after they immediately implemented some of my suggestions about krill tournies and nixing the leaderboard promo. But you are on a whole new level with getting 100K krill. Nice! I'm only at 60k I might have to email them.

One thing I have to correct you on as I've double checked this: you will get exactly 50% RB on tables with 2-3 players dealt cards. You will get exactly 27% rakeback when 4 or more player are dealt cards.

It will be 2 separate payments @approx 8pm sun est. even boss seals etc will never get more than 50% rb on any one hand.

Carbon has barely any cash game action compared to even a year or two ago. I used to like the OPS when they had $33, $109, and $215 versions of limit holdem, horse and stud8 iirc. Like Ignition, Merge doesn't have much interest in its poker operations anymore. They all want the sports/casino money (why take the crumbs when you can have the whole pie, right?). I like swc bc they only do poker and only care about poker.

There is a 100 chip (approx. $275) 12game mix tourney sunday nights so there's not much need to add 10g or 8g. HORSE might work though.

Ah gotcha, I guess that's why we get the 2 separate weekly rb payments.

Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised at the 100k krill they offered, but I'd been chronically getting buttoned due to their software glitch that has now been fixed (like literally 1 hand and leaving). So it'd cost me hundreds and they were not about to let a fish this big wriggle off the line lol. But if you can make a good case then gl to ya!

100 chips is way too much. Even worse its for 12 game which is specialized/ intimidating for a lot of players getting into mixed games. That format and buy in only attracts specialists which while is pretty sweet for you, it is not attractive for recreational players or for the site imo from a play pool building pov. Offering 30-50 chip buy in guaranteed HORSE or 8game is much more attractive.

Carbon doesnt have any mixed game cash games... but they do very well imo offering them at mtts. I mean if they're not even trying to promote the game but are still getting hundreds of entries at low stakes plo8 every single night... and swc cant even get 15 players on a good night... id say theres a massive problem.

This used to happen to me often too. There was one player in particular that did it to me numerous times. I complained in chat to no avail. Maybe I should've notified support via email but I was dumb.

Pm sent with the screen name of the player in question.

This glitch or whatever was fixed some time ago if I remember.

At least today it is impossible for someone to button/grim you for one hand and leave. On many sites, the table seeder gets the button first. this is a problem b/c if the seeder feels they are weaker than the joiner they can play 5 or 7 hands or even one and quit and have an immutable position edge.

On seals a coin is flipped. so if you are sitting at a table and someone joins you will get button 50% of the time. i had a guy join and play me for one hand otb yesterday and won. he then hit and ran me but apologized in observer chat saying he was broke and can not play these stakes. that's fine because I am thankful for his action and at no point did he get an unfair software advantage over me and he broke zero rules. It's frustrating but completely fair.

now if he gets the button on first hand and leaves or sits out, no matter what you will get the button on the next hand even if a new player.

If you haven't been keeping up on the SWC bitcointalk thread, there is a much more serious bug that resulted in players not being paid the full pot when a player quit mid-hand. It only affected ring games. If you put in some volume at ring over the last few years, SWC probably owes you some coin that they say they will get around to paying you "in due time." If giving SWC an interest-free loan in perpetuity wasn't your intent, I recommend chiming in and turning up the heat on these guys.

See:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...98#msg20775498

thanks for the link ^ i hadn't heard of that

also interesting is a post later on in that thread saying that they are paying out bitcoin cash (bch) to those who had bitcoin on the site at the time of the fork

I found out about this today by a player railing the table. They fixed the glitch in which they took too much money out of pots. 4 and a half months ago. No one has been refunded yet and VIA emails with them, they have stated that their tram is not big enough to get it done any quicker, but to trust them. I take issue with them not informing the player base of the SNAFU and not getting the "refunds" done quicker. No one knows exactly what is owed, but with the current value of bitcoin, it would be pretty significant.

To be fair, they are the easiest site to work with for deposits and withdrawals if you are familiar with bitcoin, and the quickest. I have never questioned there integrity and have never waited beyond 5 hours for a cashout. They have the largest variety of games, and their user experience is high. I don't understand why the traffic on site is slow, I really don't.

However, I feel obligated to expand on the situation beyond a link which some people will probably not click and read. If a player made a bet, or was in the blind, and for some reason or another left the table before the hand completed, that money never made it into the pot. It vanished. This happened for years. If that happened to the amount of "500 chips" over 2 or 3 years. At the current rate hay is ovwr $2,000. This is easily reachable for a regular player. To know the site is aware of this and not made players whole for almost 5 months, is unacceptable in my opinion.