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04-14-2015 , 02:22 PM
Hullplayer has been suspended.
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04-14-2015 , 02:37 PM
Harvey apparently hasn't been suspended at this time.

Looking at the two players profile pages on Sky Forum. Hullplayers is blank with a note from the editors saying it is ''under review'' This is normal when a player is suspended or banned.

Harvey's profile page is normal.
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04-14-2015 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Paracetamol
Sky's reply is very fair and totally exonerates David Harvey.

He made a mistake admitting to it on the Sky Forum and FB and deleted his posts near immediately. If it wasn't for idiots getting screenshots from social media outside of Sky then none of this would have happened. Evidence from other media and sites isn't valid. I hope they still ban HullPlayer as this whole thing is his fault.

Well done Sky.
[ ] Sky's reply exonerates DH.

I really hope someone cons you out of your whole wealth.
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04-14-2015 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by part-timer
Hullplayer has been suspended.
BRAVO

Nice to see that Sky are consistent even in the face of all this unfair bias and criticism.
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04-14-2015 , 03:16 PM
Paracetamol. Do you work for Sky?
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04-14-2015 , 04:12 PM
This screenshot has just been posted on a FB page by the original poster (as an addition to the others). Hullplayer has been suspended and all his profile removed off Sky Poker, yet the other player HitmanRV remains untouched.

Quite extraordinary decision by Sky when you see this.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1z3x...8#.VS1zZvnF8pU


Additional to that is a whole chat log which shows the whole discussion was friendly and in good spirits. Not a sign of bullying anywhere to be seen.
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04-14-2015 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by part-timer
The forum is run like a well-oiled propaganda machine. Life bans are available for those who post disagreeable material and also for those who protest at the life bans of others.

Life bans in some cases mean a forum and a poker ban. In some cases the banned persons spouse has also been banned.

You get the idea.
its been going on since tk opened the forum and got his little pets to police it.

collusion at sky has been going on from day 1 ........

ive been on the the regular sattelites where team members area51 and hitsquad have folded their blinds to a fellow team mate short stack preflop !!!!!

if you suck mr kendals maggot you get away with anything on sky poker.

I was there from the start when it was interesting with some good presenters and pro views .... all I used to see on the program was all the upcoming ass kissers and its no wonder its been disbanded.

my advice cashout and play anywhere else .......
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04-14-2015 , 04:26 PM
Neil Channing is promoting sky on his FB as we speak. Funnily enough, no mention of this despite someone posting it on his wall.
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04-14-2015 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by InnocentRV
"Hi all

We just wanted to repeat previous messages about cases of collusion, especially in light of some questions we have been asked recently.

First of all, we want to reiterate that we take cases of collusion very seriously and investigate anything reported to us to the fullest extent we can. We also take action against players where collusion is proven, to protect the integrity of the games on Sky Poker.

Without giving too much away, we actively monitor for collusion and have people and systems to do this. Obviously we cannot share too much on this in the interest of ensuring that the above runs smoothly. However, we would say that from time to time, we also rely on information from people who report things to us to either suggest something potentially suspicious (that might merit further investigations) or to give us proof that they might have.

Of course, the best form of proof is the data and information we have accessible ourselves so we rely on that the most. Unfortunately, not all external information, such as that on social media can be verified as being 100% legitimate and undoctored. A simple accusation on social media for example, is not enough to act upon.

So what should you do if you suspect collusion? - simple really, please contact our customer care team in the first instance and they will pass the information on to the relevant team to investigate further.

So you know, we do not normally instantly ban or suspend people who have been accused of cheating and very much work on an 'innocent until proven guilty' basis. Also, we do not disclose these accusations or resulting actions in public. Why? - well because that is fairest course of action.

Imagine a situation where someone had a grudge against a player and wanted to make unfounded accusations. Would it be fair to instantly ban that person? Mostly not. We also wouln't say, "We are investigating 'Joe Bloggs' for collusion", that would generally be unfair too.

It is not uncommon for people to say ‘why haven’t Sky done anything about x?’. Well most of the time we have but cannot discuss individual cases publically.

We treat each case on its merits and not all are black & white. However, to reiterate the point above all are taken seriously and any cases that are proven, we take action on.

We hope you've found this useful. We can answer questions, without going into specific cases as mentioned above.

Thanks
Sky Poker"



JOE BLOGGS, [+1], IS INNOCENT!!!!!!!!

He Never admitted Collusion, merely being the victim of an attempt to trap him into Collusion! I believe Joe!


& FREE GEORGE DAVIS!!!!

TY Sky




HITMAN, YOU ARE A CHEAT, YOU ADMITTED IT ON THE FORUM, DID THE GUY COME ROUND TO YOUR HOUSE AND HOLD A GUN TO YOUR HEAD, I THINK NOT.

YOU COULD OF TOLD HIM STRAIGHT AWAY THAT COLLUSION IS NOT PERMITTED AT ANY TIME BY YOUR TEAM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU, YOU DECIDED TO CHEAT AND COLLUDE.

WE ALL KNOW NOW AND FOR FUTURE...... YOU ARE A CHEAT......


as for all the bull you keep saying about being forced to do it, the entrapment, all of that, it dont work if you dont do it. YOU DID IT. YOU ARE A CHEAT.
I HAVE SOME NICE SCREEN SHOTS OF YOU ADMITTING IT, SEND YOUR LEGAL TEAM TO ME, I AM THINKING OF PUTTING TOGETHER A LITIGATION AGAINST YOU FOR EVERYTIME I HAVE PLAYED ON THE SAME TABLE AS YOU.
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04-14-2015 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Paracetamol
BRAVO

Nice to see that Sky are consistent even in the face of all this unfair bias and criticism.
I call troll. No can be so stupid as to actually hold the views you hold.
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04-14-2015 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Adversity
I call troll. No can be so stupid as to actually hold the views you hold.
Go onto the Sky forum and you'll see posts like that every day. The posts supporting HitmanRV aka David Harvey outnumber the rest 3 to one. Not surprising as any dissent usually results in a forum ban.

Tikay runs a happy ship.
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04-14-2015 , 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PWallis
Neil Channing is promoting sky on his FB as we speak. Funnily enough, no mention of this despite someone posting it on his wall.
Are you seriously expecting a brand ambassador to advertise negative things about the site they're being paid to promote? Rofl.
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04-14-2015 , 05:32 PM
Why was one suspended and not the other then?
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04-14-2015 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilPengwinz
Are you seriously expecting a brand ambassador to advertise negative things about the site they're being paid to promote? Rofl.
Hence why I said "funnily enough". Also, where did I say that I expect him to be advertising negative things? Someone posted this thread on his wall, he could reply with no repercussions.

Rofl. ****.
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04-14-2015 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaike
Why was one suspended and not the other then?
you would need to ask sky that question, but unfortunately they can not discuss other peoples accounts.

not every collusion is black and white(their words)

total bollocks if you ask me, they banned one and the other should be also banned
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04-14-2015 , 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dwimmerlaike
Does any one know if Sky have a rep or anything on here?
They used to, when they advertised with us for a short time in 2011.

But they're certainly welcome to set up a non-advertising rep account if they'd like, so they can respond to questions here. They just need to contact me (email in my profile) first so I can confirm that they are legit.

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Originally Posted by Paracetamol
BRAVO

Nice to see that Sky are consistent even in the face of all this unfair bias and criticism.
I've not been 100% following all the back and forth here, but I can say with a high level of confidence that you're in the running for the all-time worst first 4 posts by a new account. And that's saying a lot.
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04-15-2015 , 12:53 AM
JOE BLOGGS, [+1], IS INNOCENT!!!!!!!!

He Never admitted Collusion, merely being the victim of an attempt to trap him into Collusion! I believe Joe!


& FREE GEORGE DAVIS!!!!

TY Sky

[/QUOTE]

This didn't happen then?


http://gyazo.com/4a633bdd4d31c941490e3db3a2dc27d3
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04-15-2015 , 12:55 AM
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1z3x...8#.VS3uZUbzmPV

skimmed thread, only clicked one link, but lol @ this whole card sharing not being incredibly sketchy and definitely seemingly like cheating.

Paracetamol is doing some quality "reverse" shilling and is quite entertaining and possibly revealing . He's a good guy in a difficult situation, I hope to read more from him.
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04-15-2015 , 12:58 AM
In link above David Harvey says "you lose, sorry, did type pre" (I'm assuming he obviouslymeans preflop.)

Text before is "AK gotta, shove" and he gets called by his colluder with AJ.
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04-15-2015 , 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by InnocentRV
Hi, I'm David Harvey.

I HAVE NEVER ADMITTED COLLUSION, nor EVER taken part in Any..
My Legal People are looking presently at this thread & other Accusations on Social Media.


......My Poker Story, briefly

Poker is just a Hobby for me, Fun, Escape from Business Pressures, where luckily for me, I have had Much Success.

I also Run & Founded Sky Team HitSquad, as hobby, 5/6 Years ago.
..and been donking off money on Sky for 6 Years, just for fun like.

I Have stood up against Trolls & Haters who slagged TK, Sky Presenters, Me & others, earning me many enemies over Years, some of whom are Banned form Sky for varying misdemeanors.



This Controversial 'Story'

Once upon a time in Cyber Troll Land....
A Few Months ago....
A Guy Joined HitSquad, after approaching Us out of blue on Sky Forum.
He was welcomed in & took part, gaining our trust.

It seems now, he 'may' have been a plant all along.

About 6 weeks ago, in the Sky Forum DTD on Mondays, run by my friends, and with my help in past for years. He was on my table. [Fook, if only he was not eh?, as no other accusations have EVER been made against me]

Having never messaged me before during play, he did, and asTeam newbie I responded, I don't normally do any FB while playing, not good enough!

His convo, he instigated, began something like 'Tuff table' etc, 'whos good here?', any notes, standard i guess...
....he then went on later to discussing hands briefly we played, like a coaching, this however deteriorated.....I said so & became uncomfortable, probably was naive where this had been taken, so ended convo.

Next day being uncomfortable with situation, and fact that I had been victim of attempted stich-up & lies before, I messaged few folks I trusted to see how to proceed, I wont name any names, but these included 2 Sky forum Mods, a League admin & another official. To tell them about this attempted Collusion, as this was all it was i felt, importantly!! Unfortunatley stuff now being touted everywhere looks alot different

Message came back, that FB chats or pics cannot be verified but HH can be checked.

Was considering options for best & honesty, & with other stuff had decided with HitSquad admins this Guy was not for us at all.
Before we could eject from our Team, he left to join another..

All was quiet for 3/4 weks, had no further advice form anyone, so decided to leave it as a lesson learnt.

Then 2 weeks ago I was approached & threatened with blackmail over this.
I had to put him & a Colleague back into The FOSP, 'Friends of Sky Poker' group of which i was admin, & co-founder, or suffer the consequences.

Me Being Me, & Standing up to Bullies, Blackmail, Conspiracy, stood my Ground, refusing, [and probably swearing a Fooking bit, lol]

They then went public, with a 'version' of events, on FB, Sky Forum, Now here.
Also issuing personal threats!

Thoses who really know me, know my Ethic & Ethos.

I Now wear my Heart on My sleeve for Jackals & Jackdaws to peck at..
and this will be my only riposte here, as legally I been advised to stay out of any arguments.


But I am Stronger than Enemies could imagine & will get thru this...

I Hope that The Sky Poker Community, Sky & others allow this to be dealt with fairly, Please, and in private, as I had tried to sort.


My Reputation means alot to me, but I will not ignore this smear campaign by many haters, and their helping Sheep.

Many of You may know me or Know of me, I will never Hide.
Hope if any of you want, we can have a pint & chat sometime.
I always try to clear air politley if possible.

Thanks 2+2 for allowing me in to respond to these allegations.
There seem to have been many Kangeroo Courts about!!
In My Opinion, this is between Me, Sky and Folks involved.

I know this may be picked to pieces, so Haters do your worst, what will be will be, and what goes around, WILL come around!!

I am Not a Cheat.
This Last time I will say.

GL

The Hitman

Or this could all be bull****, a story made up to get you out of jail, so to speak.
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04-15-2015 , 06:26 AM
David Harvey has not been banned or suspended by Sky so we need to accept their decision on this and move on. The other apparent colluder has however so let's focus all our anger at him.

Feel free to post all your pics and links proving collision because as Sky has stated very clearly, these are not admissible as evidence.

It seems that DD admitting collusion to Sky Customer Care sealed his fate and the original confession on Sky's forum was retracted so that doesn't count.

So carry on with all your speculation and theories. David Harvey will continue to play on Sky, be a friend of Sky, run the Friends Of Sky Poker MTT (that he started) and enter and dominate the Monday Team events on Sky with his 200+ strong members.

Maybe you should come along and play in it. Sky provide the winners and high placers with Main Event Buy Ins each week. Don't criticise the fact that Dave's team has won these consistently for over a year if you don't join in.

Sky has spoken and I hope that you all let this go now.
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04-15-2015 , 06:34 AM
You're hilarious. Can't tell if you're a good troll or not.

It's pretty clear to everyone else that a cover up is going on as David is one of their own. If people choose to play with him or any of his team then they do so at their own risk.
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04-15-2015 , 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Paracetamol
David Harvey has not been banned or suspended by Sky so we need to accept their decision on this and move on. The other apparent colluder has however so let's focus all our anger at him.

Feel free to post all your pics and links proving collision because as Sky has stated very clearly, these are not admissible as evidence.

It seems that DD admitting collusion to Sky Customer Care sealed his fate and the original confession on Sky's forum was retracted so that doesn't count.

So carry on with all your speculation and theories. David Harvey will continue to play on Sky, be a friend of Sky, run the Friends Of Sky Poker MTT (that he started) and enter and dominate the Monday Team events on Sky with his 200+ strong members.

Maybe you should come along and play in it. Sky provide the winners and high placers with Main Event Buy Ins each week. Don't criticise the fact that Dave's team has won these consistently for over a year if you don't join in.

Sky has spoken and I hope that you all let this go now.
Ignoring the fact that this is one of the worst posts I've ever read, let me ask you a question; How would you feel if you were colluded against online, you saw evidence on social media (please don't reply with social media is not evidence as it clearly is) and the poker site refused to do anything about it?

Would you feel aggrieved or would you accept it because there is no solid proof? It's a pretty simple question but I feel you won't be able to answer it without going off on a tangent, much like a labour politician.
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04-15-2015 , 06:52 AM
Think Paracetamol must be, Harvey's wife, work for sky, or could be reverse posting.
As, keep posting apparently defending D H so keep thread alive so more people post with even more evidence.

PS there is no prize for guessing right.
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04-15-2015 , 07:43 AM
Is this Paracetemol guy for real?? he must be David Harvey's legal team. I like how he said focus all our attention on the other colluder thereby admitting that there are more than one colluders nice one mate.
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