In most situations its a lot lower (eg at micro stakes 6max). Tourneys/Sngs its about half usually.

At HU, above micro stakes its much worse than stars. You just have to compare the charts for the games you play.

https://******************/seals-faq/#rake Edit: just google sealswithclubs rake.

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/rake/

I just got a message after downloading the client meaningful colors can't communicate with server ????

I have the same thing right now with v0.2.17. V0.2.14 seems to be working fine. Not sure why.

I've actually already been working on this. I'm putting something together that should integrate with HM2 and let you just use HM2 on SWC like you would on any other site (with some minimal initial setup).

I actually started this before I was even aware of his site, I think mine should be done within a couple weeks as long as I get some free time to work on it.

Deposited last week for first time and been playing on my phone. Couple things I've noticed:

1) Twice I can't see my whole cards, lol.
2) I'll click bet, then 3/4 pot, but my bet will be 1.25x pot.

On the desktop client there is a "refresh table" option that you have to use when your hole cards don't appear. Really annoying obviously, but better than just being screwed out of a hand, maybe something similar exists on the phone.

#2 is just ****ty I guess.

I might email support, I'm not sure that they actually check this thread that often whereas I've emailed support and gotten a bug fix.

if those are the only bugs you found then consider yourself lucky

Thanks, that issue with missing my hole cards happens to me regularly. I would either play it blind if the situation is right or just shrug and fold.

That's two helpful pieces of information this week from you. I don't know what games you're playing, but do you ever think: "wait, helping my opponents on this public forum can likely cost me real money today and every day going foward?"

Hah, you're probably right, I should keep my mouth shut

I won't definitely won't give out anything that lets people use the HM hud for free

Swc123 is deemed as the master customer support rep. Jk you are alright. I think if you would put up your HUD up for seals you could get a decent amount on marketplace here.

Weee, ****ed by Gox. Sold my coins in November and requested a withdrawal to get some money for the holidays, 4 months later still waiting, then yesterday/today *boom*. A years worth of work on SWC gone, brilliant...

EDIT: Don't misinterpret this post as a slight on Seals, they have nothing to do with the exchange site, just venting. I nearly came here in December/January to warn others against using Gox, but figured there was no way I was the only one to run in to problems and that word had likely already spread.

Seals down again? Nothing on twitter. Can't login with client and servers certificate doesn't match url on website.

yep seals is down bitbook too i wonder if its the same people messing with both sites

from their twitter

SealsWithClubs ‏@SealsWithClubs 59m
URGENT: We are under a DNS hijacking attack. If your browser warns you about an untrusted certificate, DO NOT login to the site. -ST6

Time for them to check out namecoin and freespeechme.org I guess

yeah, I just went ahead, logged in, and withdrew most of my btc just in case. the downloaded client wasn't working, so the only way I could log in was through their website.

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

We're currently under what is called a DNS hijacking attack just past midnight Las Vegas time 2014-02-26. This is where the attacker tries to hijack all traffic going to the ****************** domain to redirect to his server, thus putting himself in the middle of all communications. He'll likely be using this to gather user credentials to compromise the account at a later time.

If you're using the browser, you will see an invalid certificate message if you're susceptible to this attack. It is critical you do not proceed after seeing this message. It'd be best to just wait it out. For an example of these messages on common browsers, you can see the image here: http://i.imgur.com/4dTNmhr.png

If you're using the Desktop Client, be certain you're using the newest v0.2.18 version which can be found at https://******************/pc-client/. The newest version will refuse to communicate with the bad guy's server, which will protect your credentials. However, this may temporarily prevent you from using our site. Again, it's best you just wait it out. If you want to try to fix the issue on your end, make sure you following the install instructions for the client carefully:
> Please follow these install instructions carefully to prevent any issues:
> 1. Remove any copy of the old client by deleting its folder.
> 2. Download the extracting archive below.
> 3. Find where you have downloaded the file to.
> 4. Double-click the file from the download location. On Windows, a black
> console window will pop up while it extracts the client. On Mac/Linux,
> extract the file using the archive tool.
> 5. When step 4 is finished, you may see a swc_client folder in the same place
> you ran the downloaded file from. If so, open that folder.
> 6. You’ll see a swc_client program with an icon of a seal. Double-click that to
> run the client. Do not move that program out of its home folder or it may not
> be able to communicate with the server properly.

DO NOT use the Android client until a new update is pushed. It is the most suceptible client out of all three to fall for the attack without warning.

If you worry that you have been compromised, you can e-mail support@****************** specifically stating your account name and that you'd like to have the account temporarily locked. As long as your e-mail matches your account, we will fulfill you request. As soon as it is safe, we will e-mail you back when we've unlocked the account again for you.

- - X @ SealsWithClubs
GPG/PGP Pub Key: ​http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=1Rse0Xzt
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wondering about bitbook too... anyone know where to get updates for them? Their Twitter isn't very active

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ST6 reports that the cert issue from earlier today may have been a bug and not an attack.

It is always best to stay vigilant, but this does appear to be a non-issue at this point. Anyone who hits the site and gets a bad cert please report publicly.

is it possible to speed up the client?

The hands are dealt so slowly.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?to...816#msg5396816

so is it safe now or what

Only unsafe if tried to bypass security certificate or played through mobile phone. Haven't seen an update on playing by android yet.

Is the android auto update safe?

nothing on the website mentions an android update