usually there are a few 6 max tables at the equivilent of NL120 running and not much above that.

You can get 50% off your rake by starting tables. Also, as you play more and move up the tiers, you can get ever increasing % of cashback.


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Over the winter it was pretty steady. Lately the action has been a bit dry. I'm not sure why things have dropped off a bit.

I play in the evenings and there was usually 1-4 tables of NL400+ (in seals chips so ~$240) running, but some nights were bare.

Lately it seems more nights without any NL400+ running.

Very few of the "regs" at NL100-NL400 will play short handed, so tables break fast. Even the anonymous sponsored "pro" never plays 2-3 handed. Add to this the fact that there's been two significant DDOS attacks and the password hacking scandal since December. I think this destroyed a lot of their credibility and many players just packed up and left. If Seals can significantly improve the situation with the site going down and connection issues and regs on the site work harder to keep tables going, I think things could steadily improve. Once BTC starts increasing in value again things will be even better.

One person had their account hacked I think during the acct hacks and had his bankroll returned by the site. The site always recovered from ddos and ran multiple freerolls for players. Mgmt is accessible and listens to any reasonable request.

I have to strongly disagree that the site lacks credibility. If anything mgmt. of seals have earned the trust of players thru their hard work in giving its players what they want by listening to their player pool as well as making situations right when tournamets affected etc.

I don't want to sound like a huge shills but site has done everything to deserve player loyalty with their diligence and loyalty to their players which is why players are so loyal to the site.

Sure, I probably needed to be a bit more careful with my wording. I agree with you mostly, if I didn't I wouldn't still be playing there every day. But not everybody is so forgiving or understanding. I don't think it's merely a coincidence that the traffic plummeted after each of these security breaches. Each time the recovery of player numbers was slower and less complete. Also I don't think it helped that Micon basically made it out to be a big joke on the social media feeds.

Is the site down now? I can't log in.

thx

It's up.

^^

why are there 5BB max buyin cash tables? whoever thought that was a good idea and whoever sits at those tables should kill themselves.

Better than the 1BB max buy in tables, lol

It's like playing blackjack or slots. Obviously skill differences are non existent or negligible, especially with rake factored in. They don't care, they just like something easy where they can gamble and get lucky sometimes.

I think it's absolutely brilliant. All of the softest sites online have some casino element and/or sports book, because those gamblers invariably trickle in to dabble into a little poker. With these 1-5bb tables, you accomplish the same thing while simultaneously giving them a taste for poker. Genius, IMO. I certainly hope none of those guys kill themselves, because they're great for the full stacked tables.

I'm totally agree with you! this kind of table attract gamblers and they go after to normal table.

yes randomly putting up 5bb tables is just as good as having a big sportsbook attached to the poker room...

Where did I say it was just as good? Reading comprehension? I said it's a brilliant feature to add to a purely poker only site because it attracts the net depositing type players. You're saying those players should go kill themselves for all you care. You know there's a whole lot in between nothing and high volume sports book sites and the 1-5bb tables are better than nothing.

If they are so great for the full stack tables why not, you know, let them sit at the full stack tables instead of introducing a comical form of poker? Would they really have never deposited unless there was a 5BB table?

There's nothing comical about it. It's a diff. game closer to dice, slots, blackjack. It's ignorant to assume everybody in the world has the same interests as you. Some people just like to throw dice and purely enjoy the gambling aspect. Maybe they're watching a game and having a beer and don't want to even think about anything more than all in or fold.

Using a Holdem format for this type of game isn't a new idea either. There's video gambling terminals in bars where you buy tickets which are a few randomly generated holdem hands and then flop/turn/river gets dealt out on the screen like playing Keno. Bodog and many other online sites also have something similar to this.

Will some people deposit just to play the 1-5bb tables. Yes. Some will and do. Why not just let them play at the full stacked tables? I don't know, maybe because they'd rather play lottery poker. Will the slot/casino type guy change his mind once in awhile on a good day and jump in on some 100bb+ poker. Yes, I'm sure that happens regularly.

This is pretty straightforward stuff. If you're going to argue something worthwhile, it's that Seals should upgrade their lobby filters. I really get tired of having to screen through 4 diff. game formats every time I want to look for new action.

It's actually pretty straight forward stuff to not have 5BB poker tables on any respectable poker site. I don't expect everyone to share my interests. But I do expect a poker site to host actual poker games and not pathetic and laughable imitations that are insults to the game of poker. The whole point of poker is it is not like dice or the other games you mentioned. Again, if all these people want to do is enjoy the luck aspect of poker they didn't need a 5BB game to do that. This is pointlessly breaking up the traffic of the actual poker tables on a site that struggles to have traffic and games to begin with. It is bad business, ******ed, and insulting to poker.

lol insult to poker

I don't think you have a clue what's good for business. Do you work for accounting at Seals? I personally would think it's great for my business if Seals cut out all the stakes under 1/2 (NL200 mBTC). I'm sure I'd get more action at least in the beginning. Especially NL50 and lower. The rake is way too high in proportion to the possible win rates on all online sites for those stakes. It just keeps fish and newbs playing longer and the player pool overall raking more relative to net deposits/withdrawals. It's just a step above the 1bb-5bb tables. Why would anybody want to play those stakes anyway? If you can't afford to lose more than $50 in a hand of poker, maybe you shouldn't be gambling at all. Also if you're trying to learn the game it's not really a good place to do it. Nobody takes nano stakes seriously, meaning the play will be similar to play money. Habits and skills you pick up at these stakes won't transfer well to small/medium stakes.

Then on the other hand.....I don't really know how many players love poker but simply can't afford to spent more than 1 or 2 btc. I also don't do accounting for Seals and have no idea how much net depositing is coming from players attracted only to the nano stakes. Nor do I know exactly how much gets sent upstream to the higher tables after rake. I do know I regularly see the smaller stakes players taking shots and that's great for us.

Put out as many variants and stakes and side games as they please IMO. Just please add proper lobby filtering so everybody can get to the games they really want more efficiently.

so add 6bb, 7bb, 8bb, 9bb, 10bb, 11bb, 12bb, etc max buyin cash tables? again this is a pretty small site. anytime you make another gametype like that you are splitting an already small player pool. its just dumb. let these people sit at actual poker tables. if they so desperately want to gamble they can do it on my table instead a mentally ******ed one.

except they won't.

why? they luv the gambol. they dont care if they lose. so why wouldnt they.

so how can I get the bitcoins to play here?

go to coinbase.com