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10-25-2014 , 03:33 AM
happy to hear
10-26-2014 , 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by matt18218
I am going to add my two cents on this matter.

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Lol, Solid first post.
10-29-2014 , 11:51 PM
any moves from SWC to step deeper into the market now that pokerstars is screwing their players?
10-29-2014 , 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by czGLoRy
any moves from SWC to step deeper into the market now that pokerstars is screwing their players?

Would be good idea
10-30-2014 , 12:04 AM
offer 100% RB lifetime for any stars player who rakes $X in the three months (blocking supernova elite chase) with a nice deposit bonus

that should do something
10-30-2014 , 12:27 AM
Step 1: Lure the over-raked PLO players from Stars

Spoiler:
And what, you might ask, would it take to lure them?
10-30-2014 , 12:38 AM
software that doesn't disconnect nonstop
software that isn't terrible
proven RNG (think just-dice seed)
>100% RB for certain high profile players
proof user funds are being held in full
advertising
specific promotions (like happy hour or something)
10-30-2014 , 12:51 PM
My issue finally got to the right guy in the support staff, and has been fixed. Took a while, but they stepped up like always.
10-30-2014 , 12:52 PM
Glad to hear.
10-30-2014 , 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by czGLoRy
any moves from SWC to step deeper into the market now that pokerstars is screwing their players?
stars losing a lot of their players and they are not done yet either. word on the street is more "awesome" moves are being made but for now.... im w/ swc c u @ the tables haha
10-30-2014 , 05:02 PM
IS there anyway i can view my stats on here?
10-30-2014 , 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilGreebo
Having multiple accounts is permitted. Using them at the same time at the same table or tournament is not.
do that on stars they will take all your money away. seals got it right though, just as long as your not at the same table or tourney
10-31-2014 , 04:39 AM
How is the site's history for integrity and payouts? This a reliable place to play?
10-31-2014 , 04:44 AM
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Originally Posted by POW
How is the site's history for integrity and payouts? This a reliable place to play?
In my understanding seals is super impeccable with cash outs and integrity.

Payout is usually less then 24
10-31-2014 , 10:00 AM
you need to implement some games to fill thise one gap. Right now there's a 5 Chip Slow with no gtd @ 9ET and then 2 hours until the next tournament (20 Chip 160 GTD) -

why not put a 1-3 Chip 10-20 gtd in the half hours to get some micros running?

Right now a mBTC is worth ~0.33$ so a 1$ MTT with a 6$ GTD isn't too far fetched or is it really that bad at times?

Seals can def grow, having some small tournaments (more like scheduled Sit n Gos) running all the time like cash game is running is a good thing to make the site a place to visit if you want to play. If you log on at 15.10, only to see there are no mtts starting until 17.00 it's not unlikely to close the client directly..
10-31-2014 , 11:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Uhrenknecht
you need to implement some games to fill thise one gap. Right now there's a 5 Chip Slow with no gtd @ 9ET and then 2 hours until the next tournament (20 Chip 160 GTD) -

why not put a 1-3 Chip 10-20 gtd in the half hours to get some micros running?

Right now a mBTC is worth ~0.33$ so a 1$ MTT with a 6$ GTD isn't too far fetched or is it really that bad at times?

Seals can def grow, having some small tournaments (more like scheduled Sit n Gos) running all the time like cash game is running is a good thing to make the site a place to visit if you want to play. If you log on at 15.10, only to see there are no mtts starting until 17.00 it's not unlikely to close the client directly..
Agreed
10-31-2014 , 01:28 PM
How have there been no visible software improvements in a year?!?

Such a big opportunity being missed IMO
10-31-2014 , 01:32 PM
I'm think they are working on a big release that can't be put out incrementally.
10-31-2014 , 01:39 PM
Bit coins avoid wallets, banks more often as it can be on ones computr and csn be used from there, no wallets, no banks, but thats all goods it has, will make little difference to rake. The 2nd thing i guess is that it will grow in value when it gets more used, as its less risky then to lose its value. If nlh players or porn userd make it more popular, there will be plo games and more value so investing to it then makes sense as porn buying anonymity might be possible, though one cant be anonymous poker player because of tax reasons, and not sure one can buy porn anonymous from amazon, but from porn sites maybe, though the cam girl needs to pay tax but it doesnt mean ur name needs to be known.

Setting bit coins buy from bank is of course too much trouble, but if normal sites offer bit coins, one can buy, it gets easy, and then one can go buy some porn.
10-31-2014 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Rant
How have there been no visible software improvements in a year?!?

Such a big opportunity being missed IMO
Trotting out the new software for 5 quaters now . Sorry couldn't resist but seals has made huge strides with mavens software. Rome wasnt built in a day only designed in one. Someone was on the money when he said mavens rng was designed for play money entertainment sites and not for real money. This cannot be disputed. Though seals has made great strides in customizing mavens the rng will always be an rng that was designed for play money and entertainment purposes.

Poster who was talking about donk4u was talking about donk4u2 an imposter who also plays under dorinvandy. I have the same results against kenny in mtts as the psands pro. Kenny gets it in with 3 outers and always seems to hit.

Last edited by ZeckoRiver; 10-31-2014 at 09:05 PM.
10-31-2014 , 09:57 PM
That is a nice link. It contains this
The actual shuffling algorithm knows nothing about player cards, however. It simply shuffles the array of numbers so that each one is equally likely to end up in any of the 52 slots. This occurs before the hand even starts. It doesn't know that each number corresponds to a playing card, let alone in a poker game, let alone for Texas Hold'em, let alone who they are dealt to or to which table.
11-01-2014 , 09:14 AM
I have played on mavens previous to seals never trusted the shuffel didnt say it was rigged. I question its randomness and the ability of Briggs to put out an rng that met the specifications for real money play as the software not intended for that purpose.
11-01-2014 , 09:47 AM
hem2 / pt support would be cool. is that possible now? last time i checked it wasn't. this would also allow analysis of larger sample sizes of hands.
11-01-2014 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ZeckoRiver
I have played on mavens previous to seals never trusted the shuffel didnt say it was rigged. I question its randomness and the ability of Briggs to put out an rng that met the specifications for real money play as the software not intended for that purpose.
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What makes a good card shuffling algorithm are two main requirements: each card must have an equal chance of landing in any position in the deck, and the random number generator used by the shuffler must be unpredictable to a human observer so that they cannot determine the future order of the cards. Poker Mavens satisfies both of these requirements using the highly efficient shuffling algorithm described in "The Art of Computer Programming", a series of acclaimed books written by noted computer scientist Donald Knuth. The random number generator uses an RC4 stream cipher, designed by noted cryptographer Ronald Rivest. The stream cipher is seeded with a random 256-bit key, generated by hashing a seed pool with the SHA-256 hash algorithm. The seed pool is constructed by sampling the CPU's 1.193 MHz high-performance counter. Those samplings occur each time the operating system communicates an internal message to the Server Module, which can be thousands of times per second and is also affected by interaction with the game administrator (mouse movements, key presses, etc.). The full source code for these routines is provided in the download link above.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%...3Yates_shuffle

Producing a good RNG and shuffle algorithm are not hard problems in Computer Science, and the algorithms for doing so are publicly known. There is no difference between a "real money" RNG and a "play money" one. Only good and bad. If programmers are lazy or unknowledgable, you get something like the Planet Poker RNG, which could only produce 2^32 out of a possible ~2^226 ways to shuffle 52 cards. The number of possible shuffles divided by the number of shuffles which could be produced by Planet Poker's RNG is on the order of a 1 followed 58 zeroes.

http://www.datamation.com/entdev/art...e-Security.htm

      
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