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08-24-2014 , 03:35 PM
no not everything but this there is a good chance. The reason is because it has already happen once. You think UB were only ones cheating. If it happen once will happen again that is proven fact my friend. It kind of like having a sexy ass girl that cheated on you once but says they wont do it again. Then you hear lots of rumors but no proof like pictures.... she cheated once she will do it again(or like i am saying more likely to.
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08-24-2014 , 03:43 PM
Oh yeah be honest if something came out in next few years online was BS you wouldnt be shocked.
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08-24-2014 , 03:52 PM
I have offered a $5,000 reward for definitive proof of a rigged RnG at anty major site for a long time, so if one was proven to be rigged in that matter I would be very surprised.

Would I be surprised if some companies do bad things liek steal customers money?: No, because that happens in all industries.

Am I going to worry about what every nut job says might happen? I will pass on that, but you can support them if you like.

You have a nice simplistic, binary view of the world, and I know I cannot change that, but I can have some fun with it.

All the best.
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08-24-2014 , 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JarrydKnight
no not everything but this there is a good chance. The reason is because it has already happen once. You think UB were only ones cheating. If it happen once will happen again that is proven fact my friend. It kind of like having a sexy ass girl that cheated on you once but says they wont do it again. Then you hear lots of rumors but no proof like pictures.... she cheated once she will do it again(or like i am saying more likely to.
If the crazy guy on the corner yelling at the clouds has a "good chance" of being right (whatever that means), then there is probably no use going on with this conversation. However, it does make me wonder about your ability to grasp the concept of probability. Wanna play poker?

Last edited by Last Laugh; 08-24-2014 at 03:57 PM. Reason: 72 offsuit has a good chance of beating aces, after all
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08-24-2014 , 03:59 PM
no my key to understanding things is to be able to see and argue both sides . The only way to truly understand something is to be able to argue both sides my friend. Just like in poker you have to see your cards and understand villains thinking. Just agreeing or not is very primal thinking. You must advance your thought process.
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08-24-2014 , 04:03 PM
When I said there was a chance I was not talking about you guy on corner please realize I was still talking about online scams
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08-24-2014 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Last Laugh
If the crazy guy on the corner yelling at the clouds has a "good chance" of being right (whatever that means), then there is probably no use going on with this conversation. However, it does make me wonder about your ability to grasp the concept of probability. Wanna play poker?
Before you make a comment please reread things... nothing wrong with checking twice
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08-24-2014 , 04:21 PM
There are millions of various conspiracy theories out there. Let us know how it goes checking all of them twice. As you say, nothing wrong with that.

Here is someone who believes that aliens control mankind.

http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/reality.htm

She starts her manifesto with this

If you sit back and analyze how things are run, one thing is evident: That power on earth is in the hands of a nefarious few and they are not human.

There is certainly a chance she is correct, so perhaps you should read all of her works to better consider both sides of that debate, since that is really the only way you can understand it. Do not disagree with it immediately without doing that, because as you say, that would be primal thinking. Use this example to show us how you can advance your thought process, and after that you have a few million more theories to go!

All the best.
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08-24-2014 , 04:35 PM
One thing I know about when arguing with someone you keep bringing up things that are far fetch . But my examples are things that have happen over and over again. My examples are simple for a reason . Because our argument is something that action is not considered to be that far fetched. So if you want to give better examples besides flying monsters then I am willing to talk about that. You actually completely ignored my last statement which means you really have no other argument besides the simple fact you don't believe in something so that is that. I think what you were accusing me of is what you are doing .( Having a simple view on a subject)
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08-24-2014 , 04:38 PM
Also just for the record I do not believe online poker is rigged , but if I am wrong I am not surprised . The key in online poker rigged or not is to know when the heck to fold even if its rigged, so just to let you know because a game is rigged towards the house does not mean it cant be beaten .
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08-24-2014 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JarrydKnight
One thing I know about when arguing with someone you keep bringing up things that are far fetch . But my examples are things that have happen over and over again.
Actually, no significant poker site has been discovered to have a rigged RnG in any way, shape or form as the OP suggests (except Planet Poker which was never exploited), so the odds of that actually happening, while not being detected, nor told by insiders is indeed far fetched.

If all your point is that some businesses are run badly and steal from customers, then whatever, that happens in all industries and is a part of the human condition, and that still does not mean that every theory some random dude says needs to be investigated.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JarrydKnight
My examples are simple for a reason . Because our argument is something that action is not considered to be that far fetched. So if you want to give better examples besides flying monsters then I am willing to talk about that. You actually completely ignored my last statement which means you really have no other argument besides the simple fact you don't believe in something so that is that. I think what you were accusing me of is what you are doing .( Having a simple view on a subject)

Let's stick with this industry then. Feel free to examine, and consider, all of these theories and more:

Stats riggie (note, you likely will not understand a word he says):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...hould-1299786/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...isive-1293249/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...untry-1123425/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...uency-1116343/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...omaly-1007942/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...l-play-985031/


Extreme Conspiracy Riggie:


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...ssion-1100433/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25...ssion-1132764/

He had a lot of beliefs, not all poker related

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41...onomy-1130732/


Troll/Martyr Riggie:


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...sioned-806209/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...ink-so-816658/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...mbling-822222/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...e-yawn-897603/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/26...warded-858683/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...nents-1026747/


Angry Wannabe Poker Pro Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...t-now-1312513/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...nders-1303087/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...iance-1320287/

Looks like the expat poker career is taking off (same riggie)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=218



Xenophobe riggie (America solves everything):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=62072
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=62075

New Jersey Poker Rooms are Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54.../#post41399362
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=71529


Xenophobe riggie (America causes all problems):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...right-1332555/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...k-not-1342447/

America does not matter - it is all rigged:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3461

Rigged for people in G8 Countries Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...8-g20-1465213/


"Live Poker is Never Rigged" Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=62127


"Live Poker Is Always Rigged" Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...huffle-276002/

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...8152840AAGeIp6


Everything is Rigged Except Merge Network Riggie

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63035
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63038

After Playing there 2 Months Merge is Becoming Rigged (same riggie):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63919

After Playing there 4 Months Merge is Totally Rigged (same riggie):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64464


Merge Network is Always Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...t-now-1160123/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...irate-1140212/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...37&postcount=1
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...mizer-1202701/

Merge and Cake are Rigged, Black Chip is Not Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63743

Merge is rigged, Ipoker is not rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...2&postcount=12

Only certain games on ipoker are rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...8&postcount=13

Zynga is Rigged riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...igged-1163239/


Party Poker Software Update Riggie:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63281

Party is Rigged, Pokerstars is OK riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...igged-1276965/


888 is Rigged, Stars is Not Rigged Riggie

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=66193


Stars Rebuy Riggie (even though no rake is charged on rebuys):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63392
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63395

Bodog is Riggied riggie:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...rigged-869233/

Entraction is Rigged:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...rigged-640036/

Cake Poker is Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...d-luck-640871/

Cake Poker is not rigged, Full Tilt is Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...-right-610030/

Stars is Rigged Full Tilt is Not Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...49&postcount=4

Small Sites Rigged, Big Sites Not Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=65660

Paperboy is Rigged:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/75...igged-1063427/


Equalization Program Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63030
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63581


Mafia riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post35028326


Superbot riggie:


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=7615
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...l#post10939021
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3979


Manslaughter/Masturbation riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=32843
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=38210

Rage Riggie

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...r-pics-920492/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...sk-pic-701345/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...me-win-984220/

Western State Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=43307


Sites Help Donks Riggie:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=62368

Oh Wait, I am the Donk, but the Sites Do Not Help Me Riggie (same one):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...poker-1136853/
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32...poker-1136682/

Rigged for new players riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=71438

Rigged against new players riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=71412
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=71416


84 Card Deck Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25.../#post39186201


Speed of Deal Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63215


Pseudo Embedded Software Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63409

Stars Sitting Out Player Movement Preference Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63665


Sharkscope HUD Download Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=55306

Cashier Balance Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=63798


Computers Cannot Handle Coin Flips Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64085


Indestructibly Backwards SOftware Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64086
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64087


Russian Forum Insider Riggie Theory (proven fake, but many riggies here believed it and probably still do)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...nners-1359150/

A Known Poker Pro Talking about Rigging that riggies can admire:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...56&postcount=1

Riggie Lists are Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64405

Average Person Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rigged-652355/

Manifesto Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64510

Every Single Player Loses Heads Up Riggie (how can this be possible - who knows):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64895
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64896

Deterministic Universe Riggie

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64951

Stats PhD Who Does Not Know How to Use Holdem Manager Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1700


A Person Who Can Stop a Beam of Light Can Also Stop the Rig Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=64986


User Import Riggie (who only trusts the Swiss)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2618


Rigged Except During Afternoons Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2623


50 Tabling Robot Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2706

$100 capped winnings riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=66186
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=66191

Standard Deviation is Rigged Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=66377


Foot Fetish Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=66642

Play Money Superuser Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...money-1407084/

Rainbow Flop Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=67696

Cigital Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=3320

Rigged only on Sunday Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...iracy-1296652/

Rigged every day between 7pm and 11pm UK Time Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=67899

Donks win with 0% Equity Riggie (How? Who knows...)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=67913

Riggies are Rigged:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=68242

Spider Man Riggie: (actually is a very informative thread)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54...igged-1420288/

Twoplustwo is controlled by Pokerstars Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=68624

Rafael Nada Riggie:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...scuss-1456479/



Youtube riggie:: (be sure to click his advertisements to make him some money):

http://www.youtube.com/user/magic612/videos?view=0


A different youtube video riggies like quite a bit (and it features a much better accent)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3tv-1rBJeY


My review of that video that riggies will like less (so they can selectively ignore)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...ostcount=56626


A youtube video which proves Lizard People control poker:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-MkGr_GkCY



Non action hand riggie (best theory to date so far):

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=9416


The main riggie thread on 2+2 (where other riggies will believe your math, regardless of how wrong it is):


http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...dition-255990/




All the best.
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08-24-2014 , 05:10 PM
http://www.random.org/faq/#Q2.1 please take a look at this . If you want to find out if there is a way to test rng randomness you cant. Sorry to burst your bubble
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08-24-2014 , 05:35 PM
Stop going after bubbles and get proof of a rigged RnG at any major site and claim my $5,000 reward.

Feel free to ask in the stats forum if your beliefs and interpretations about randomness are correct, to make sure your own bubble is secure.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25/probability/


Also, get back to me with a report on all of those riggie theories, that should all be considered by you...


All the best.
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