I've never played this guy personally, but I have to say that after reading through both threads it seems very likely that this is not a coincidence.

I emailed them a couple days ago to check on a few possible connections between e-mail addresses and names on the site. I'll post whenever I have an update.

A 2p2 user just PM'd me saying they had some important information about this LivLiv1 person. This user wants to wait and talk to Shane from the Lock forum before publicly saying anything. Hopefully it'll be today.

This makes no sense. If LivLiv1 has the power to make a player disconnect, then it would surely be in a SNG. In ring games there is no way he/she can force your blinds to be paid and play without you being sat in the game, which can happen in a SNG or MTT.

Still could work in cash games. If LivLiv1 could do this at will and there was a giant pot going on, he could make u disconnect and win every big pot

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19.../#post36946420

And the plot thickens:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=36

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-rude-1297153/

He seems pretty good with IP addresses:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...6&postcount=35

Can someone provide cliffs on what is going on with this?

Still developing and not easy to follow but I'll give it a go.

- Sa1251 reports he keeps dcing and being sat by livliv. Some of these appear to be sit then dc, rather than dc then sit (the latter is just the sign of a guy looking for an easy free buyin).

- livliv appears to be connected to a previous collusion account on FTP.

- livliv appears to be adding tons of people to skype and trying to trade Lock funds.

- livliv banned on 2p2 for one or both of the last two cliffs.

- livliv makes a post ~5 days ago bitching about having lost KK bc of Lock software crash. The screenshot reveals he is livliv, not anything he says.

- suspicious chat from another player reported in a hu cash table with livliv.

- livliv makes yet another 2p2 account in the lock forum complaining that his account is frozen and has 5k in it. Edit: Also appears he was multi accounting on Lock and engaging in some "activities" (per LockShane's post in the thread).

- sharkscope stats for livliv look pretty darn good in short term, though they include the dced buyins he won, so they could be highly influenced by a few free wins at higher stakes given the small sample.



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What does this add up to? Not really sure yet. I probably missed a few points too.

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Edit/MH: livliv1 for search purposes

Did you contact your ISP to see if you had been ddos'ed or whatever?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...7&postcount=36

Ok so it is pretty obvious this user was doing something at least like what he was accused of. How can we protect ourselves from this? Anything other than no skype on your poker computer?

I pm'ed RW when I made this thread because he is pretty good at piecing together a story from ss and ptr stats and think he has ss sub. He has yet to respond but if someone with a SS subscription could maybe do some advanced searches on stakes/roi and maybe more than his last 7 games it could provide some more insight.

A few things to keep in mind:

- Sample is incredibly low. Unless it's a very deep stack HUSNG format (it's not), it may be unlikely but certainly nowhere near rare for someone to run that well over 120 games.

- Keep in mind the results are inflated if he simply won 6-12 games from sniping lobbies when he saw someone DC*

*Not saying he sat after they were dced, that doesn't seem clear yet, but clearly he did win at least 6 games where his opponent was dced, so the results here are definitely inflated. That's 1.5-3k profit, maybe even more just from DCs.

Excellent cliffs ChicagoRy

Below is his last post under one of his 2p2 accounts, which shows a little violent streak and some knowledge of IP addresses:

"You sound like a faggit and you don't know what you are talking about people like you get murdered and I wish we could meet in person so I could beat the living daylights off your ass you talking about i'm a shady character I didn't do a damn thing wrong so you can go F yourself, yeah and Shane you too can go F yourself.

Lock YOU ARE SCUMBAGS

LOCK POKER IS A SCAM! THEIR ENTIRE OPERATION IS SETUP AND THEY HAVE DECOYS BUYING UP ALL THE FUNDS FROM PLAYERS AT .60 THAT'S THEIR ENTIRE GOAL THEY ARE CASHING IN AND RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME!!!

IP: 216.152.173.52
Decimal: 3633884468
Hostname: sub173ip52.conet.net
ISP: United Telecommunication Services (UTS)
Organization: United Telecommunication Services (UTS)
Services: None detected
Type:
Assignment: Static IP
Blacklist:
Geolocation Information

Country: Curacao
City: Willemstad
Latitude: 12.1 (12° 5′ 60.00″ N)
Longitude: -68.9167 (68° 55′ 0.12″ W)

http://gyazo.com/4ad2802b5357c2b179b51f4095a75f79

^^ THEIR OPERATION IS OFF THIS SMALL ISLAND "

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Edit/MH: livliv1 for search purposes

Its quite easy to add someone via skype then get their IP address to crash their service.

This is called a Denial of Service attack, it evolves next to no knowledge of 'hacking'. Best advice is do not add strangers to any social network.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack

If you are really worried about these attacks you can get a Dynampic IP address which will change you IP every hour you can request this from your Internet service provider, It'll cost you more per month though.

Thanks Odite. Is that also true for e-mail interaction?

Wow...just wow.

I'm pretty sure he didn't just passively saw people DC. I got invited in skype by him (declined) and moments later I got a disconnect from poker client (while router had signal from ISP, I couldn't use internet). I didn't had a disconnect like that before ever. Minutes later, while I was sitting alone at a 10-20 NLH table he joined and asked me to play him higher (being insistent and saying he was tilted). Obviously these are not a series of coincidences.

Sorry my main point was just that his SS results are inflated from uncontested wins regardless.

Of course, you allude to the real question being how he won those DCed games.

Shane did hint at some foul play here when he said the site was aware of the player's "activities." It could be trading funds, multi accounting or as suspected by several in here, denial of service attacks and blind down.

Shane seemed to confirm that he had multiple accounts iirc.

Wow, so all he has to do is find out your Skype nickname, even if you don't accept him? Wow..

This story is really sick. The problem with Denial of Service attacks is that it is hard to defend against them. I swear some of these people(Using that term loosely because some of these scammers should not be in the same classification.) if they dedicated their lives to science we probably have all kinds of new things.

well if he did ddos people, he had to have their IP address.

getting someone's IP thru skype seems kinda unlikely to me. they had this problem ages ago, I presume they fixed it. however the only other option i can think of is that this guy has access to revolution server data

edit:

I'm wondering, is this happening only to lock players or network-wide?

this doesn't really show anything besides knowing to go to whois.com

This coincidence is interesting to me. Again no accusations being made.

The hacker who took 70k from my account blew it all on high stakes heads up NLH cash tables and high stakes PLO h/l cash tables.

All of LivLiv1's HUSNG results have either been from NLH games. Then randomly there is the occasional PLO h/l husng thrown in there. Weird.

Weird that the one guy who has been taking my money multiple times in disconnects and seems to be shady in general has affinity for playing nlh hu and plo h/l hu. And the hacker who took 70k from me just so happens to have an affinity for playing nlh and plo h/l hu.

I don't know many people who are interested in playing those two games.

He also didn't have a problem chat tilting on my screen name while hacking my account. Based on his posts under fish grinder, LivLiv1 seems to have a temper as well

Here is a screenshot of the Reports tab on my lock name from the hacking day. Hopefully it isn't too small/blurry, having trouble making it larger.



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